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<p>I'm sure you are Greg!</p>
<p>And it was only meant a a slow ball to open up the discussion as you already know me well :) :) :)</p>
<p>I have hear from some active members of the WT5 than come from the ccTLD side that they worry more about what happens with GeoNames at the second level than at the top one.</p>
<p>The artificial lmits we have set on the scope of thirs WT, as well as in previous charters like the ccNSO-GNSO CWG on Country and Territory names, are the best example of the fact that by dragging its feet in the relevant policy issue, we are in the process of make ourselves irrelevant and others will fill the vacuum sooner rather than later.</p>
<p>The asymmetries between the top and the second level, the asymmetries between worldwide generics and global TLDs, and the asymmetries in the different levels of restrictions within the new generics are not only a serious limitation in the openness of the internet, but are creating great opportunities to deal with the peoples wishes in other, closed platforms.</p>
<p>Look forward to our call tomorrow Tuesday in my case, for some fast balls.</p>
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<p>El 2018-04-30 11:35, Greg Shatan escribió:</p>
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<div>I'm well aware of the scope of the WG. However, we don't operate in a vacuum, and this case is both relevant and instructive — in terms of issues and arguments and for outcomes.</div>
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<div style="word-wrap: break-word;">It is also a reminder of the level of bullying that some governments are capable of doing in this space and their disregard for the legitimate rights of others to use words in the DNS. This is a serious concern -- to see such little regard for the freedom of expression rights to use words with a geographic meaning. Absent an actual internationally agreed legal rule that holds people can't use the word "France" or other words with geographic meanings, it would be a huge mistake for ICANN to adopt such an anti-innovation and pro-censorship position in domain name policy as demanded by some govts here.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: verdana,sans-serif;">Great, lets keep it limited. But thanks Greg for reminding us where we can end up.. some supported two-letter second level domain names that correspond to cctlds to go to governments and cctld managers in new gtlds. Some of those were generic pronouns like in and it. But no one had mercy on generic names and no justifiable reason was given other than oh governments own everything when it comes to their cctld... or at least can claim ownership. The irony? Some of those cctld managers are actually private companies benefiting handsomely from this. </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <span><<a href="mailto:carlosraul@gutierrez.se">carlosraul@gutierrez.se</a>></span> wrote:<br />
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<div dir="auto">Thanks Greg!<br /> <br /> Very interesting but I'm afraid our scope is limited to the top level.....
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<div>---------- Forwarded message ---------<br />From: Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>><br />Date: Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 12:37 PM<br />Subject: France seizes <a href="http://france.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">France.com</a> from man who's had it since '94, so he sues - Ars Technica<br />To: <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>></div>
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