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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">Thanks, Alexander.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">Interesting thoughts. It is good to be thinking outside the box.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Alexander Schubert <alexander@schubert.berlin><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"alexander@schubert.berlin" <alexander@schubert.berlin><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 8 May 2018 at 14:31<br>
<b>To: </b>"gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] "Intended Use" Discussion<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Dear group,<br>
<br>
Greg’s point is very valid – and in fact has been raised by many others as well:<br>
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There has to be a sufficient amount of people (or other metric that establishes “relevance”) being affiliated with a place to grant them the privilege of being looped into the application process (via letter of non-objection).<br>
We are working off the 2012 AGB. Per 2.2.1.4.2 only strings identical to these entities require “Government Support” (letter of non-objection):</span><o:p></o:p></a></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Capital City (in any language) – irrelevant to its size!
</span><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sub-national place names as listed in the ISO 3166-2 standard (caused problems
 with .bar, .tata and others in 2012) – again: irrelevant to its size! The U.S. has listed only a few (namely their States), but others have listed insane amounts of tiny places. Population size-wise a very inconsistent list in my mind.</span><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">UNESCO regions. URL:
</span></span><a href="https://unstats.un.org/unsd/methodology/m49/"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">https://unstats.un.org/unsd/methodology/m49/</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
 then click “Geographic regions”. These names shouldn’t pose any problem – no overlapping with other places or brands here.</span><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">CITIES! Last not least: City names. While the first three are fairly overseeable
 and lists exist – this last category is slightly “murky” – and that is PRECISELY why we are primarily talking about that category: it is the ONLY one of the 2012 AGB that provides a base for discussion really.</span><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">In the U.S. alone there are over 3,000 “cities” with more than 10,000 people – and 19,500 places in total. India has over 4,000
 cities with more than 10k people as well. I can’t find reliable statistics – but there must be in excess of 50,000 cities globally with more than 10,000 people. Now imagine you lower that bar to 5,000!</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We will need a proposal to “limit” the number of cities (and in my mind the “Sub-national place names as listed in the ISO 3166-2
 standard” as well) in respect to the requirement for a letter of non-objection. Only if a city has enough inhabitants (or is otherwise very important, e.g. because it is the capital) enough affiliated people are deprived of their chance to express themselves
 via their own self-managed gTLD. And quite frankly: Even if I am a very daring person when it comes to gTLD applications (.berlin WAS “daring” in 2005, so was .gay in 2009) – I simply completely fail to imagine that cities smaller than 10,000 people would
 ever apply for their own gTLD. There might be singular cases (Aspen!) – but policy will ALWAYS have to balance between protections and burdens. And obviously anybody can still apply for any super tiny city if they wish: but most likely that application will
 be funded and operated by city constituents anyway – and NOT by portfolio applicants: you can’t “make profit” of a city gTLD when there are only less than 10k people. So we are good with “warehousing” and fight off profiteers.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hence my suggestion (again – please don’t beat me):</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We define a cut-off size “X”. My gut feeling says somewhere between 10,000
 and 50,000 people. Maybe others here could chime in!</span><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Any gTLD applicant (regardless of intended use!) that applies for an identical
 string will have to acquire a letter of non-objection from EACH city with more than “X” inhabitants. That limits the burden for city applicants and generic string / brand applicants as well!</span><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I suggest that the cut-off rule applies for “Sub-national place names as
 listed in the ISO 3166-2 standard”, too.</span><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">If we want to avoid a “beauty contest” or “repositories” then I see no other metric than population size. And population size matters
 – as an underpopulated place simply can’t sustain their own gTLD (unless they are Aspen).</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I think such compromise would ease the “pain” of the TM lobby – while it would sufficiently protect the interest of the people
 of cities.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
 Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 08, 2018 8:02 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Liz Williams <liz.williams@auda.org.au><br>
<b>Cc:</b> gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] "Intended Use" Discussion</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I will disagree with one statement you made:</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222;background:white">It seems like no one is arguing against the notion of trying to somehow have a consultation between
 the applicant(s) and the impacted governments to the extent possible.  </span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I suppose it depends on how you define "impacted governments."  If every geographical term, no matter how obscure, results in an "impacted government,"
 then I disagree vehemently.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">On the other hand, if we are first going to define some small subset of geographic terms (e.g., names of countries) where there will be an "impacted
 government," then I probably agree.  But this is predicated on the idea that the vast majority of strings with geographic meanings will not create "impacted governments."  Otherwise, if Bill and Hillary Clinton want to apply for .Clinton, they will need to
 "somehow have a consultation" with the 30 "impacted governments" of the 30 Clintons in the United States -- and maybe elsewhere. That can't be right.  I'll note that Alexander Schubert proposed some sort of minimum population size; while I'm not endorsing
 that, it shows that the statement quoted above is at the very least, far too broad, and that the result will not be a consultation every time a string shows up in the index to to an atlas.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 10:55 PM, Liz Williams <</span><a href="mailto:liz.williams@auda.org.au" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">liz.williams@auda.org.au</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">You have raised some interesting points.  Another question to add is what happens when the intended use changes?  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">For example, the business which was the original intention looks difficult and the operator has to modify the original business plan?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Or the business is sold?  There have been many examples of strings which have been repurposed (tv, la, co spring immediately to mind) and others that have changed hands (where the operator changes)?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Is a better/stronger Specification 13 the way to solve “intended use” question or something else?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Looking forward to other ideas/questions/discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Liz  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">On 8 May 2018, at 1:05 am, Jeff Neuman <</span><a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Just wanted to get a new thread going just on the concept of “intended use” of a TLD since there has been some good discussion
 on this narrow topic and thought it may be a good jumping off place to put some ideas out there for discussion. </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Some have stated that the “intended use” of a gTLD should be considered when looking at whether governments (national/local, etc.)
 should have to issue a letter of non-objection / consent as a condition of the gTLD application being accepted.  For example, if a TLD applicant does not intended to use the TLD for purposes associated with the geographic connotation of the string, then they
 argue that the geographic government should not have the final word on whether the TLD is granted.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Others have stated that “intended use” of the TLD is irrelevant or not helpful given the fact that only one organization is granted
 the right to operate and administer the TLD.  And that being the case, consideration should be given to the political, legal, historical, etc. connotations for the communities affected.  Some countries have laws protecting the use of those names regardless
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">It seems like no one is arguing against the notion of trying to somehow have a consultation between the applicant(s) and the impacted
 governments to the extent possible.  But having a presumption one way or the other (either that a letter of non-objection/consent be required or a presumption in favor of delegation) is not something there is agreement on.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Is it possible, however, to come up with a solution that is outside of the box? </span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Can we have consultations where the ultimate outcome is not pre-ordained, but still provide incentives
 for all of the parties to “come to the table” to express concerns, but also provide ways in which those concerns can be mitigated? <span class="m-1926926924719456100apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Are there ways to allow the delegation of the TLD, but also address the concerns of the impacted
 governments? </span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Could this include agreements to allow the use of second level strings (or the reservation of
 second level strings) where there is an inherent association with the government / local community?</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">For brand TLDs, there is a requirement currently that all registrations be registered to the brands
 (or their affiliates / licensees) in order to maintain their Specification 13 protections?  Can there be an exception granted for ones that coincide with a geographic string where certain second level strings that are inherently geographic can be registered
 by others?</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Are there any other parameters that can be established to help guide consultations to prevent
 the perception as expressed by some that governments will try to extract payments in exchange for the right to be the registry of the TLD?</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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 on the utility of “intended use.”  And I would be curious to see if we could flush this out at all?</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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