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</head><body><p>Jeff, Martin:</p><p>The objective should be to extend analogous appropriate protection to all geographical names within agreed limits of granularity and subsidiarity.</p><p>Insofar as there has been "general acceptance to continue the AGB treatment" that has so far been limited to the pre-existing AGB categories. It certainly does not imply "… and nothing more".</p><p>Regards</p><p>CW</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><blockquote type="cite"><!-- [if gte mso 9]><xml>
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif] -->El 10 de mayo de 2018 a las 16:30 Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com> escribió:<br><br><div class="ox-177b83bb22-WordSection1"><p class="ox-177b83bb22-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">Alexander,</span></p><p class="ox-177b83bb22-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;"> </span></p><p class="ox-177b83bb22-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">I think you are making too many assumptions in your email about the motivation of why the group may accept continuing AGB treatment. You extrapolate the fact that if we decide to protect countries in a certain way, that we should protect any geographic area with a population equal to the size of the smallest country. I think that is too large of a leap at this point. Acceptance of AGB terms for countries may have nothing to do with population. That may very well be a possible outcome, but we are not there now.</span></p><p class="ox-177b83bb22-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;"> </span></p><div><p class="ox-177b83bb22-MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana',sans-serif; color: #0f9347;">Jeffrey J. 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Of the 233 countries and territories listed in Wikipedia ONE THIRD (80) have less than 1 Million inhabitants. And we seem to agree that they need EXTREME “protection” – a letter of non-objection is seemingly not even enough. 32 of these territories have even less than 100,000 inhabitants. <br> <br> In that respect: the Internet usage becomes more and more LOCAL. People are looking up stuff IN THEIR CITY – not predominantly in another country or nationally. People look for stores, the cinema schedule, etc. Depending on the source it seems that already over two thirds of all searches in Google are LOCAL! In large cities that will logically be much higher. A city is a much better Internet identifier than a country. When we over-protect country names that way – how can we claim to be halfway congruent if we do need at least provide SOME protection to cities as well? At least sizeable cities.<br> <br> With 15% of all territories having less than 100,000 inhabitants I assume the BARE MINIUM would be to protect all cities with at least 100,000 people. A cut-off size at between 10,000 and 50,000 would make much more sense as in many countries there are few cities making the 100,000 cut-off. In Latvia there are at least 4 cities worth a city gTLD just in the next round – but only ONE (the capital – which is anyway protected) makes the 100,000 cut-off! In Switzerland there are a whole bunch of cities that might want to go for a city gTLD (e.g. to promote tourism, eGovernment, etc) – but just 5 (outside the capital) would be protected. <br> <br> Thanks,<br> <br> Alexander.berlin</span></p><p class="ox-177b83bb22-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;"> </span></p><p class="ox-177b83bb22-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;"> </span></p><p class="ox-177b83bb22-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;"> </span></p><p class="ox-177b83bb22-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;"> </span></p><div><div style="border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class="ox-177b83bb22-MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">From:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;"> Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org</a>] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Martin Sutton<br> <strong>Sent:</strong> Thursday, May 10, 2018 10:50 AM<br> <strong>To:</strong> DE SALINS Ghislain <<a href="mailto:ghislain.de-salins@finances.gouv.fr">ghislain.de-salins@finances.gouv.fr</a>><br> <strong>Cc:</strong> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a><br> <strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Conference call: city names</span></p></div></div><p class="ox-177b83bb22-MsoNormal"> </p><p class="ox-177b83bb22-MsoNormal">Ghislain,</p><div><p class="ox-177b83bb22-MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="ox-177b83bb22-MsoNormal">Thank you for the information. I think we have already covered country and territory names in WT5, to the extent that there is general acceptance to continue the AGB treatment, so France would, of course, be included in those terms.</p></div><div><p class="ox-177b83bb22-MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="ox-177b83bb22-MsoNormal">Kind regards,</p></div><div><p class="ox-177b83bb22-MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="ox-177b83bb22-MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">Martin</p><div id="ox-177b83bb22-AppleMailSignature"><p class="ox-177b83bb22-MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone</p></div><div><p class="ox-177b83bb22-MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><br> On 10 May 2018, at 08:39, DE SALINS Ghislain <<a href="mailto:ghislain.de-salins@finances.gouv.fr">ghislain.de-salins@finances.gouv.fr</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote><div><p class="ox-177b83bb22-MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br> Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org">Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a><br> <a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5</a></p></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><p><br> </p><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br>Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list<br>Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<br>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5</blockquote></body></html>