<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I think we can put a first level of acceptance and agree on how we move. We may never know what other situations may crop up in the future. I suggest we come to terms and agree on a first way forward and then we may revisit other situations as they crop up. We cannot please everyone at this stage, else we will never end the discussions.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We cannot also find the solutions for everything at this stage and i would say we need to move ahead with a preliminary agreement and see through this situation. Else we will never ever move towards a solution. Nothing will be perfect but it will be important to keep in mind many of the suggestions etc., to be taken up as and when. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">That is my take. I am only saying this because at this stage no matter what we do or decide we will never formulate something that fits all issues. Let’s agree on a first stage way forward so we do not stall the discussions but we note on a report that suggests all other issues raised as a problem statement and move ahead to clear the first line. We need to move into something than nothing. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My two cents.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Kris<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 8, 2018, at 11:26, Nick Wenban-Smith <<a href="mailto:Nick.Wenban-Smith@nominet.uk" class="">Nick.Wenban-Smith@nominet.uk</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica-Light; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Well put Heather. I remember the IRT discussions on GPML and it’s a good analogy.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Whilst GPML was ultimately rejected for trade mark owners however some additional protection mechanisms at the second level were approved (TMCH, URS). I know there are other groups looking at how that all panned out in practice, but additional protections were certainly agreed to be a valid concern given the potential massive expansion of gTLDs.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">When it comes to city names (especially capitals) and where use is intended as a forum or online representation of a community I continue to believe that there should be something in the rule book as per the 2012 round. I know the CPE mechanisms were in part designed to address this and ensure that in a contention situation the community application would score higher and avoid the need for an auction, but that in practice was very complex to the point that it could be argued it defeated its purpose. And of course it relies on there being an application or at the very least some awareness of the gTLDs process, something which is not a given for some communities or parts of the world.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">I still think (based on direct experience with Wales and London) that the non-objection process whilst imperfect might be the least bad solution vs others currently on the table. But I don’t support widening the category of terms subject to non objection – ISO regions, capitals city names (although not in every language) plus city names where the use is intended for that city/ community is sufficient.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Best wishes<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Nick<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Heather Forrest<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>08 June 2018 07:16<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Follow up on comment in chat during WT5 meeting of 6 June<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 8pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: 15.546667098999023px;">Dear WT5 colleagues,<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 8pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: 15.546667098999023px;">I write to follow up on my comment in the AC chat near the end of our meeting on 6 June 2018 (Heather Forrest: In my view all of the proposals above based on quantitative thresholds suffer from randomness. I do not support the use of the letter of support/non-objection for other reasons already noted on the list, but these proposals create more problems. AND Heather Forrest:+1 Liz - and indeed I should have said 'arbitrariness' rather than 'randomness' (apologies- it's early morning here in APAC!)). I'm sorry that I had to drop the call soon after to attend another meeting, so was unable to provide context or answer questions.<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 8pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: 15.546667098999023px;">In the policy development process that led to the 2012 AGB the protection of famous and well-known trademarks, a legal right explicitly recognised by the Paris Convention for the Protection of Industrial Property (to which 177 countries are a member), was ultimately not adopted by the GNSO or implemented in the AGB. There is a very long history here that goes back to the Implementation Review Team (several highly experienced members of this PDP were members of that RT), but for our purposes I’ll just highlight that protection of famous trademarks through a ‘Globally Protected Marks List’ (often referred to then as ‘GPML’) was rejected due to equivalent concerns as those raised by myself and others in our call about the use of quantitative, geographic eligibility criteria for protection.<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 8pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: 15.546667098999023px;">Those involved in the PDP at that time found it challenging to determine the criteria for identifying a mark as famous, and thus eligible to be included on the GPML. The inherently arbitrary nature of quantitative, geographical criteria (e.g., the mark being protected by registration in a specified number of jurisdictions in each of the five ICANN regions) was vigorously debated at ICANN35 in June 2009. At United States Congressional oversight hearings on new gTLDs in May 2011, ICANN’s then Senior Vice President for Stakeholder Relations cited concerns expressed by WIPO as to the mechanics of such a list and opposition from the GAC as chief obstacles to its implementation in new gTLD policy.<sup class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></sup>He concluded: ‘The time, commitment and resources (from ICANN and the community) needed to create and maintain such a list would provide only marginal benefits as such a list would apply to only a small number of names and only for identical matches of those names.’<span class="gmail-msofootnotereference"><sup class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></sup></span> (<a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/pritz-to-goodlatte-07jun11-en.pdf" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/pritz-to-goodlatte-07jun11-en.pdf</a>)<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 8pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: 15.546667098999023px;">Should WT5 conclude that it is now appropriate to use quantitative geographic criteria in relation to requirements on city names (as I have expressed before in meetings and submissions, I do not personally support this conclusion), we must be prepared to explain in detail in the Final Report how these criteria overcome challenge on the ground of arbitrariness, and are not inconsistent with this earlier GNSO policy decision. <o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 8pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: 15.546667098999023px;"> Best wishes,<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 8pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: 15.546667098999023px;">Heather Forrest<o:p class=""></o:p></p><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">Terri Agnew</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:terri.agnew@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">terri.agnew@icann.org</a>><br class="">Date: Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 1:25 PM<br class="">Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Recordings, attendance & Adobe Connect chat from GNSO New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG Work Track 5 (Geographic Names at the top-level) call / Wednesday, 06 June 2018<br class="">To: "<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a>><br class="">Cc: "<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></p><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a name="m_6261210798977715522__MailOriginalBody" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="" class="">Dear all,</span></a><span class=""></span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="" class="">Please find the attendance<span class="m6261210798977715522apple-converted-space"> </span>and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" class="">Adobe Connect<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="" class="">chat<span class="m6261210798977715522apple-converted-space"> </span>of the call attached. The MP3</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and Adobe Connect recording is<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="" class="">below for the GNSO New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG Work Track 5 (Geographic Names at the top-level)<span class="m6261210798977715522apple-converted-space"> call<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>held<span class="m6261210798977715522apple-converted-space"> </span>on<span class="m6261210798977715522apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday,<span class="m6261210798977715522apple-converted-space"> </span></span>06 June<span style="" class=""> 2018 at </span>20<span style="" class="">:00 UTC.</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="" class=""> </span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="" class="">Agenda wiki page: <span class="m6261210798977715522apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/MScFBQ" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://community.icann.org/x/MScFBQ</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="" class=""> </span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="" class="">As a reminder only members can join the call, observers can listen to the recordings and read the transcript afterwards. Please email </span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: purple;" class="">gnso-secs@icann.org</span></a><span style="" class=""> if you would like to change your status from observer to member. </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> </span></b><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="" class="">Mp3: </span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" class=""><a href="https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-subsequent-track5-06jun18-en.mp3" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-subsequent-track5-06jun18-en.mp3</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Adobe Connect recording:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span lang="EN-US" class=""><a href="https://participate.icann.org/p8b696447i2/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=d01eb915b907ba60b592ccc21320b2067715609560b344fb59191929d07b3045" target="_blank" style="color: purple; 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