<div dir="ltr">I also completely agree. Furthermore, the entire issue ought to be out of scope of this PDP. This WT should never have been formed and allowed to re-litigate the rules around geo names. They were carefully crafted per comprehensive compromise in 2012, resulting still in an unwarranted giveaway to governments re 2-letter and 3-letter names, and capital cities, and country names for that matter. Those rules only need to be tightened up so the Board and GAC can't disregard them any more in the future, like they have done with Amazon and PersianGulf, at least.<div><br></div><div>We should be talking about minor tweaks to the rules, if any, and strong language taking away GAC and Board discretion to ignore the rules and "object anyway" even when applied-for names are not on the definitive, agreed list.</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">Mike Rodenbaugh</div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">RODENBAUGH LAW</div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">tel/fax: +1.415.738.8087</div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><a href="http://rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">http://rodenbaugh.com</a> </div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Robin Gross <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">I completely agree and add there is nothing to stop any locality from applying for a string, should they wish too. <div><br></div><div>Bestowing on anyone (including govts) the automatic right to prevent a string by requiring permission to use a word is antithetical to the principle of "permissionless innovation”, a key principle for a free and open Internet (and big reason for its success).<div><br></div><div>Robin</div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jul 20, 2018, at 1:22 PM, Paul Rosenzweig <<a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com" target="_blank">paul.rosenzweig@<wbr>redbranchconsulting.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div class="m_8362788497007852503WordSection1" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">+1 for this. The discussion continues to make me think that any solution we would propose would only be arbitrary, capable of rent-seeking, and in the end utterly unworkable.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Paul<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Paul Rosenzweig<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">paul.rosenzweig@<wbr>redbranchconsulting.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">O: +1 (202) 547-0660<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">M: +1 (202) 329-9650<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">VOIP: +1 (202) 738-1739<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a href="http://www.redbranchconsulting.com/" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">www.redbranchconsulting.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">My PGP Key:<span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://keys.mailvelope.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x9A830097CA066684" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">https://keys.mailvelope.<wbr>com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=<wbr>0x9A830097CA066684</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>><span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>McGrady, Paul D.<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, July 20, 2018 4:02 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span>Kris Seeburn <<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com" target="_blank">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a>>; Maureen Hilyard <<a href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com" target="_blank">maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span>Icann Gnso Newgtld Wg Wt5 <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a><wbr>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Notes and Action Items - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP Work Track 5 - 11 July 2018<u></u><u></u></span></div></div></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Thanks Alexander.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Just to clarify the record, I didn’t suggest in the call that .bingo had to seek approvals from all those cities in the last round. It was introduced as an example of how ridiculous this can get if we go down the slippery slope of expanding censorship in the top level any further than it has already been extended. Perhaps something was lost in the translation. <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Regarding Paris, there are dozens of places that bear that name (which originated in Greek mythology, by the way, and not in France). I’ve copied them at the end. Under a strict reading of the AGB from the last round, an applicant would have had to get a letter from the government of each of these places. A very silly rule.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Regarding your “Clearwater” place holder, let’s swap in Toledo instead. Toledo, Spain has been around since about the time of Christ and currently has a population of 83,000. Toledo, Ohio, has been around only since 1833 but has a population of nearly<span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:white;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial"> </span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">651,429, many times that of the little city in Spain. This is not even to mention the over a dozen other places named Toledo. Your suggestion that a GAC rep may speak for the people of such cities implies that there would be some GAC approval process, again for dozens of places, none of which has any more right to the word “Toledo” than the next place. So your “Clearwater” scenario is named exactly backwards– it muddies the waters, it doesn’t clear them.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">None of the above scenarios lead to simplicity or predictability, two of our core principles.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Also, thanks to Maureen who proposes “</span>(1) population (2) country – legitimacy”<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Toledo is a great example of Ohio being the largest Toledo but Spain being the oldest. So, Toledo, Ohio would “win” which means free speech would win since Toledo, Ohio is located in a jurisdiction that prevents governments from stifling the speech of its citizens. But does that make Toledo, Spain any less legitimate? The answer, in my mind, is “no” since neither place has any legitimate claim to the word “Toledo” sufficient to keep it from being written as a top level domain name. <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Folks, I think we have to stop trying to create rights for governments that they haven’t even legislated for themselves. ICANN is not the place to introduce new legislation – the community has enough trouble on our hands just trying to get ICANN’s policies in alignment with actual laws. It doesn’t do us any good to cook up compliance with non-existent laws – thus over engineering the next round and setting it up for confusion disputes, and extra costs.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Best,<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Paul<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="border-style:none none solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(162,169,177);border-bottom-width:1pt;padding:0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 3pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">Places</span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(84,89,93)">[</span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paris_(disambiguation)&action=edit§ion=3&editintro=Template:Disambig_editintro" title="Edit section: Places" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">edit</span></a></span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(84,89,93)">]</span><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:Georgia,serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div style="margin:0.05in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><b><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Canada</span></b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(84,89,93)">[</span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paris_(disambiguation)&action=edit§ion=4&editintro=Template:Disambig_editintro" title="Edit section: Canada" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">edit</span></a></span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(84,89,93)">]</span><b><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></b></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Ontario" title="Paris, Ontario" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris, Ontario</span></a>, a community<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Arkansas" title="Paris, Arkansas" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris, Arkansas</span></a>, a city<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Idaho" title="Paris, Idaho" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris, Idaho</span></a>, a 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style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Indiana" title="Paris, Indiana" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris, Indiana</span></a>, an unincorporated community<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Iowa" title="Paris, Iowa" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris, Iowa</span></a>, an unincorporated community<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Kentucky" title="Paris, Kentucky" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris, Kentucky</span></a>, a city<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Maine" title="Paris, Maine" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris, Maine</span></a>, a town<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Paris, an unincorporated community in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Charter_Township,_Michigan" title="Green Charter Township, Michigan" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Green Charter Township, Michigan</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Mississippi" title="Paris, Mississippi" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris, Mississippi</span></a>, an unincorporated community<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Missouri" title="Paris, Missouri" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris, Missouri</span></a>, a city<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_New_Hampshire" title="Paris, New Hampshire" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris, New Hampshire</span></a>, an unincorporated community<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_New_York" title="Paris, New York" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris, New York</span></a>, a town<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Portage_County,_Ohio" title="Paris, Portage County, Ohio" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris, Portage County, Ohio</span></a>, an unincorporated community<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Stark_County,_Ohio" title="Paris, Stark County, Ohio" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris, Stark County, Ohio</span></a>, an unincorporated community<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Oregon" title="Paris, Oregon" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris, Oregon</span></a>, an unincorporated community<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Pennsylvania" title="Paris, Pennsylvania" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris, Pennsylvania</span></a>, a census-designated place<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Tennessee" title="Paris, Tennessee" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris, Tennessee</span></a>, a city<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Texas" title="Paris, Texas" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris, Texas</span></a>, a city<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 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style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Wisconsin_(disambiguation)" title="Paris, Wisconsin (disambiguation)" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris, Wisconsin (disambiguation)</span></a>, several Wisconsin localities<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Township_(disambiguation)" title="Paris Township (disambiguation)" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris Township (disambiguation)</span></a>, several US localities<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beresford,_South_Dakota" title="Beresford, South Dakota" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Beresford, South Dakota</span></a>, a city formerly called Paris<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loraine,_California" title="Loraine, California" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Loraine, California</span></a>, an unincorporated community formerly called Paris<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Paris Mountain, South Carolina - see <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Mountain_State_Park" title="Paris Mountain State Park" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris Mountain State Park</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Mountain" title="Paris Mountain" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris Mountain</span></a>, Virginia<u></u><u></u></span></p><div style="margin:0.05in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><b><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Other</span></b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(84,89,93)">[</span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paris_(disambiguation)&action=edit§ion=6&editintro=Template:Disambig_editintro" title="Edit section: Other" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">edit</span></a></span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(84,89,93)">]</span><b><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></b></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Denmark" title="Paris, Denmark" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris, Denmark</span></a>, a hamlet in Jutland<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Kiribati" title="Paris, Kiribati" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris, Kiribati</span></a>, in the central Pacific Ocean<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Par%C3%ADs,_Herrera" title="París, Herrera" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">París, Herrera</span></a>, Panama, a <i>corregimiento</i> or subdistrict<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Basin" title="Paris Basin" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris Basin</span></a>, a geological region of France<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Peak" title="Paris Peak" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">Paris Peak</span></a>, Anvers Island, Antarctica<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3317_Paris" title="3317 Paris" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none">3317 Paris</span></a>, a minor planet named after the legendary figure of the Trojan War<u></u><u></u></span></p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0.05in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><b><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Belize</span></b><span 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Illinois</span></a>, a village<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledo,_Iowa" title="Toledo, Iowa" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128)">Toledo, Iowa</span></a>, a small town<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span 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Ohio</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledo,_Oregon" title="Toledo, Oregon" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128)">Toledo, Oregon</span></a>, a small town<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span 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class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Toldeo,_Texas&action=edit&redlink=1" title="Toldeo, Texas (page does not exist)" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(165,88,88)">Toldeo, Texas</span></a>, a small town<u></u><u></u></span></p><div style="margin:0.05in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><b><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Uruguay</span></b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(84,89,93)">[</span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Toledo&action=edit§ion=8&editintro=Template:Disambig_editintro" title="Edit section: Uruguay" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128)">edit</span></a></span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(84,89,93)">]</span><b><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></b></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 1.2pt 19.2pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;background-color:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledo,_Uruguay" title="Toledo, Uruguay" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(11,0,128)">Toledo, Uruguay</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>><span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Kris Seeburn<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, July 20, 2018 2:39 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span>Maureen Hilyard <<a href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span>Icann Gnso Newgtld Wg Wt5 <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a><wbr>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="m_8362788497007852503Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Notes and Action Items - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP Work Track 5 - 11 July 2018<u></u><u></u></span></div></div></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">I was rethinking this and a way forward could be at this point taking capitals/cities into a second round. We still need to think business models as well. So at this point in time we could move Geonames to the three letter ISO and also country names in full as set out in ISO / UN recognition as well.<u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">The population size could be very well thought of in a second phase of this workings. The longer we take to get to the other bits we may be stalling the whole process as well.So my take is get the first of these moving ahead. I was stating islands as i can take Seychelles has an overall population as a country of around 95,000 so imagine it’s capital “VICTORIA” or it’s other main Hub “MAHE”. There are also other countries or Islands we may have to think and cater for.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">So my suggestion is to take into consideration the population size for sure but perhaps add a second variable which would be the country itself. Big countries in general may understand that you cannot just use or take names of capitals or other cities just like that without Govt approval. But the issue remains the awareness that needs to go down to ensure the required understanding. <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">So perhaps two variables should be (1) population (2) country - legitimacy — perhaps that may go better with GAC as well as many others.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">My two cents.<u></u><u></u></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt" type="cite"><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">On Jul 20, 2018, at 22:56, Maureen Hilyard <<a href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">+1 seems a very good argument to me<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 7:44 AM, Kris Seeburn <<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt" type="cite"><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Alex<u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Sounds like a pretty good way forward. Perhaps as you say population size should also be based on the country applying as some are also islands and may not be having a large population like New York, Paris and loads of others. <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">kris<u></u><u></u></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt" type="cite"><div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">On Jul 20, 2018, at 21:22, Alexander Schubert <<a href="mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">alexander@schubert.berlin</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Hi group,<br><br>during the last call and in its chat were some serious conflations of facts. Let me explain the fact base on the floated examples of “.bingo”, “.paris” and I am adding “.clearwater” (“Clearwater” being a placeholder for any “city” like “Clearwater” in Florida which has 100k+ inhabitants, is probably know by every single American and every single German, might be confused with “unspoiled water” – but Google finds obviously ONLY city related content.)<br><br>We had a new gTLD round. It was in 2012 – applicants had to follow the rules of the application guidelines for it. That’s our base. The rules are quite specific and it would be nice if group members read them at least ONCE (the chat contributions made it painful clear that not everybody here has read the city related new gTLD policies of the 2012 AGB).</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div style="margin-left:0.5in"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7pt"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503m6860383061595556016apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">BINGO:<br>If in 2012 some brand or generic term applicant had applied for .bingo and there would be a non-capital city “Bingo”; that city would NOT have to be asked for Government support if .bingo was declared as non-geo use application! The notion that every city “Bingo” had to be asked for permission is ridiculous and bares any fact basis.<span class="m_8362788497007852503m6860383061595556016apple-converted-space"> </span><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div style="margin-left:0.5in"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7pt"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503m6860383061595556016apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">.paris:<br>Any applicant for any city or brand “PARIS” would have been required to get the approval of the French Capital. To my understanding if the geo-use was intended then from all other places that qualify as “city” as well! We might look into the formulation “relevant Government” and “associated with the city name”: Paris Texas has 25k people, is a city, and the city’s name is “Texas”. To my understanding any application that declares geo-use (even if by the French capital) they would have had to acquire Government support from Paris, TX as well (please discuss, please correct me if you identify evidence to the contrary). I do not see that the French capital was prioritized over Paris, TX.<span class="m_8362788497007852503m6860383061595556016apple-converted-space"> </span><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div style="margin-left:0.5in"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7pt"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503m6860383061595556016apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">.clearwater:<br>In the call somebody questioned why “The City” (some city) had any fundamental issues if a gTLD like “.clearwater” (which I use as a fictional example for any small city) was applied for by e.g. a beverage company with a brand “CLEAR WATER”.<br>I am not going to speak on behalf of cites (as in “government bodies”): maybe some GAC member could do that! I am caring about the CONSTITUENTS in that city! The businesses. The People! The organizations. It is THOSE who have a potentially terrible loss: YOU ARE SQUATTING ON THEIR NAME. It can’t be that the marketing desire of a beverage brand tops the freedom of expression and identity of tens or worse HUNDREDS of thousands of citizens!<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">So all in all: Brands and generic applicants faced more or less ZERO “resistance” in the 2012 AGB – as they could always claim the non-geo use. What is being discussed currently (and yes for full disclosure: I am the initiator of that idea):</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div style="margin-left:38.25pt"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7pt"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503m6860383061595556016apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">In the 2012 AGB we already eliminated the non-geo use for capitals and 3166 Alpha-2 regions!<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div style="margin-left:38.25pt"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7pt"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503m6860383061595556016apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">BIG cities are as important – and too many people and stakeholders would suffer from city name grabbing on top-level in the DNS<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div style="margin-left:38.25pt"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7pt"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503m6860383061595556016apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">The solution is to elevate at least sizeable cities to the protection level of capital cities!<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div style="margin-left:38.25pt"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7pt"> <span class="m_8362788497007852503m6860383061595556016apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">A cut-off measure has to be defined – e.g. population size<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Thanks,</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Alexander Schubert</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="m_8362788497007852503m6860383061595556016apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-<wbr>bounces@icann.org</span></a>]<span class="m_8362788497007852503m6860383061595556016apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="m_8362788497007852503m6860383061595556016apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Julie Hedlund<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="m_8362788497007852503m6860383061595556016apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, July 12, 2018 12:10 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="m_8362788497007852503m6860383061595556016apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.<wbr>org</span></a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="m_8362788497007852503m6860383061595556016apple-converted-space"> </span>[Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Notes and Action Items - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP Work Track 5 - 11 July 2018<u></u><u></u></span></div></div></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Dear Work Track 5 members,</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Please see below the action items and notes from the meeting today (11 July). <i>These high-level notes are designed to help WG members navigate through the content of the call and are not a substitute for the recording, transcript, or the chat, which will be posted on the wiki.</i></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">See also the attached slides as well as the Working Document at:<span class="m_8362788497007852503m6860383061595556016apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1BRzHr2FxSTYHX1I8F3FHSt6Bo1cvJsKyWX8WZXRUXAo%2Fedit&data=02%7C01%7Cpmcgrady%40winston.com%7Cdb15f0d902484827682608d5ee7885ee%7C12a8aae45e2f4ad8adab9375a84aa3e5%7C0%7C0%7C636677123764221322&sdata=E1boSeyGtZsKbrr0Ac8d1sDn%2FAu5cwURV1QRYRHLsBo%3D&reserved=0" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:purple">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/<wbr>1BRzHr2FxSTYHX1I8F3FHSt6Bo1cvJ<wbr>sKyWX8WZXRUXAo/edit</span></a></span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">.<span class="m_8362788497007852503m6860383061595556016apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Kind regards,</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Julie</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Julie Hedlund, Policy Director</span><span 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