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    <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">I think ICANN would be
        dealing with a whole lot of .amazon type disputes. I thought our
        role was to try to avoid that.</font></p>
    <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Mariat</font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/8/2018 2:23 PM, Javier Rua wrote:<br>
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      Sure!
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      <div>“<span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Thanks
          Robin!</span>
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        <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">To
            continue this interesting conversation, a question (anyone
            can of course chip in) how could this hypothetical be solved
            preemptively or curatively (a posteriori): What if 1) an
            “Apache Helicopter Corp.”, a company that incidentally has
            registered US trademarks for the name “Apache Helicopter”,
            applied for a “.apache” string; 2) the US government never
            objected (or paid any attention) to said application, and
            the string was delegated, 3) yet a representative of the
            several federally recognized Apache Tribes, a few months
            later found about this and objected to this “appropriation
            of their cultural identity-the name of their people”?  </span></div>
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        <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">PS:
            My heart wants the Apaches to prevail... “</span></div>
        <br>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">Javier Rúa-Jovet
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            <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">+1-787-396-6511</span></div>
            <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">twitter:
                @javrua</span></div>
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                javier.rua1</span></div>
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          On Aug 8, 2018, at 8:14 AM, Greg Shatan <<a
            href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>
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              <div dir="auto">Javier,</div>
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            <div dir="auto">Can you please refresh my (our) recollection
              of that fact pattern? Thanks!</div>
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            <div dir="auto">Greg</div>
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                <div dir="ltr">On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 7:15 AM Javier Rua
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                  <div dir="auto">Thx Greg!
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                    <div>What would you say to my “Apache Helicopter”
                      fact pattern?</div>
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                      <div id="m_8589503193839125919AppleMailSignature">Javier
                        Rúa-Jovet
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                              style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">+1-787-396-6511</span></div>
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                              style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">twitter:
                              @javrua</span></div>
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                              style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">skype:
                              javier.rua1</span></div>
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                        On Aug 8, 2018, at 1:33 AM, Greg Shatan <<a
                          href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"
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                            <div class="gmail_default"><font
                                face="verdana, sans-serif">Your anger
                                and hurt are heard. Thanks for
                                expressing your feelings so directly. </font><br>
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                              style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Let's
                              turn to the facts.</div>
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                              style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">There's
                              no "infringement" here. Overheated
                              rhetoric won't make it so.  Words can have
                              more than one meaning.  If a registry sets
                              up a .brick TLD for use by the brick
                              industry, it does not "infringe" on any
                              right that Brick, New Jersey has.  There
                              is simply no general principle that
                              supports the idea that a "geo use" is a
                              "better" use of a string with multiple
                              meanings than a "non geo use."  </div>
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                              style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">There
                              are no "vultures" to be protected from. 
                              They are no more real than Bigfoot, the
                              Loch Ness monster or the monster under the
                              bed when you were 6 years old.</div>
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                              style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Challenge
                              processes (I don't want to use the "C___
                              R_____" term you have a knee-jerk reaction
                              to) are a well-accepted method, in ICANN
                              and everywhere else. Access to a form of
                              due process does not translate to
                              "anything goes" or "big money wins." 
                              Quite the opposite -- it is a way to
                              arrive at a fair result.  It may translate
                              to "Geos don't always win" -- but that's
                              completely appropriate.</div>
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                              style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I
                              can't speak for NCSG or for ALAC, but in
                              my view from an end-user perspective, a
                              "geo use" is only one possible use of a
                              multi-meaning string.  Many more end-users
                              may be interested in a .coupon that is
                              used for getting and using coupons that a
                              .coupon that is used for Coupon,
                              Pennsylvania.  There is no inherent
                              preference for "geo uses."  "City
                              constituencies" have the right to apply
                              for appropriate gTLD strings, whether it's
                              .Budapest or .Bucharest or .Bridgeport. 
                              Nothing we do here will change that.  <br>
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                              style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">As
                              we move toward a series of consensus
                              calls, it is particularly concerning to
                              see Challenge Processes rejected out of
                              hand and with such divisive rhetoric.  But
                              it's better to know now if challenge
                              processes can be part of a consensus
                              recommendation from this group.  I would
                              hope the answer would be "yes" But, if the
                              answer is "no" -- as this "call to arms"
                              suggests -- then we will have to move
                              forward under those circumstances.  I
                              don't think that will be helpful in
                              reaching consensus on any recommendation,
                              even some of the so-called "easy" ones.</div>
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                              style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Best
                              regards,</div>
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                              style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div>
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                              <div dir="ltr">On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 7:14
                                PM Alexander Schubert <<a
                                  href="mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">alexander@schubert.berlin</a>>
                                wrote:<br>
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                                  <div>"Curative Rights"? </div>
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                                  <div>Geo communities won't even know
                                    that vultures and brands are
                                    infringing on their identities.
                                    Especially not once we go into
                                    continuous application mode in a few
                                    years.</div>
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                                  <div>GAC members should be VERY
                                    ALARMED. "Curative Rights" is a
                                    thinly veiled eulogy for "anything
                                    goes" and "big money wins". The
                                    rights of geo communities and their
                                    constituents will be TRAMPLED on.</div>
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                                  <div>In the 1600s and 1700s Europeans
                                    set out to stake claims in every
                                    corner of the world. Unchallenged.
                                    Their prey being vulnerable and
                                    without defense. Colonialism! It
                                    wiped out populations of ENTIRE
                                    CONTINENTS  (e.g. North America). </div>
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                                  <div>What is being peddled here is
                                    just the same in the age of claiming
                                    DNS land on top level:</div>
                                  <div>Venture Capital will marry
                                    Vulture Culture - together they will
                                    colonize the geo-TLD world. To make
                                    big bucks - on the back of
                                    vulnerable communities.</div>
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                                  <div>Europe, Asia, South America and
                                    Africa should stand up to cyber
                                    colonialism. It cannot be that
                                    "their lands" are brute-force taken
                                    AGAIN. </div>
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                                  <div>Sizeable cities are as important
                                    (and their geo gTLDs as impacting
                                    for their city constituents) as
                                    small countries. I would wish we
                                    collectively mature up and recognize
                                    that truth. "Curative Rights" ain't
                                    enough. Where are ALAC or the NCSG?
                                    It would be THEIR job to defend city
                                    constituencies. Do they even know
                                    what's playing out here? </div>
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                                  <div>Btw: I wish we could stop calling
                                    it "governmental support". For many
                                    that sounds like FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
                                    Nothing could be more wrong. It's
                                    the CITY'S representatives who are
                                    tasked to provide support. They know
                                    the needs of their city best - they
                                    have been ELECTED to represent the
                                    city's constituent's interests. </div>
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                                  <div>Thanks,</div>
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                                  <div>Alexander </div>
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                                  From: Robin Gross <<a
                                    href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org"
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                                  Date: 8/7/18 20:02 (GMT+02:00) <br>
                                  To: Icann Gnso Newgtld Wg Wt5 <<a
                                    href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a>>
                                  <br>
                                  Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] WT5
                                  Agenda, Work Plan & Consensus Call
                                  on Country & Territory Names -
                                  Please review before our call. <br>
                                  <br>
                                  I agree with Greg and would add that
                                  many of us would be far less resistant
                                  to the concept of “geo names” if the
                                  underlying right/privilege provided
                                  was a curative right (rather than
                                  preventative).  For some, the biggest
                                  problem we have with “geo names” is
                                  the presumption of restrictions (in
                                  this case a “veto power” to a single
                                  actor) so moving discussion towards
                                  curative rights could be a very useful
                                  way of working toward an ultimate
                                  consensus.
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                                  <div>Thanks,</div>
                                  <div>Robin</div>
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                                          <div>On Aug 7, 2018, at 9:53
                                            AM, Greg Shatan <<a
                                              href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>
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                                              <div dir="auto">Christopher,</div>
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                                            <div dir="auto">You can’t
                                              just throw the word
                                              “politically” into the
                                              middle of an unsupported
                                              claim and expect to be
                                              persuasive (or even
                                              understood).  I don’t see
                                              any reason or reasoning
                                              where would find “all
                                              geographic names” to be
                                              subject to any rules, much
                                              less preventative rules. 
                                              Quite the contrary.  Can
                                              you explain your use of
                                              “politically” and what
                                              that implies?  Where do
                                              you see politics coming
                                              into the ICANN
                                              policy-making process, and
                                              which politics are you
                                              referring to?</div>
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                                            <div dir="auto">Curative
                                              procedures have been
                                              successfully invoked since
                                              the dawn of ICANN (and
                                              long, long before, in a
                                              multitude of settings) to
                                              allow someone to assert a
                                              claim against another
                                              party’s actions on the
                                              basis of agreed-upon
                                              standards.  To write off
                                              the entire concept as
                                              “unsuitable,” again
                                              without support, seems
                                              both extreme and
                                              premature.  New curative
                                              procedures were created
                                              for the 2012 round, and we
                                              could adapt those or
                                              create something different
                                              if we wanted to.  On a
                                              policy level, there’s
                                              absolutely no reason for
                                              curative procedures to be
                                              “unsuitable.”  Indeed, for
                                              reasons I very recently
                                              stated, they are far more
                                              suitable than preventative
                                              rights for the vast
                                              majority of terms with
                                              geographic meanings. 
                                              Helping them work
                                              appropriately is an
                                              implementation-level
                                              concern that should not
                                              impede good policy-making.</div>
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                                            <div dir="auto">As a group
                                              trying to reach consensus,
                                              we should not put all of
                                              our eggs into the one
                                              basket of preventative
                                              measures — no matter how
                                              much some participants
                                              want us to do so.  I
                                              understand the allure of
                                              preventative processes
                                              over curative processes —
                                              you don’t need to watch
                                              anything, you don’t need
                                              to initiate anything, you
                                              don’t need to prove
                                              anything, and you don’t
                                              even need to explain
                                              anything.  It’s a
                                              completely one-sided
                                              approach — which is good
                                              for one-sided, slam-dunk
                                              situations.  Conversely,
                                              they are not particularly
                                              good where there are two
                                              sides to the story. 
                                              Perhaps there is a concern
                                              that in a “curative”
                                              process over terms with
                                              geographic meanings, the
                                              “objectors” will not be
                                              able to succeed very often
                                              — that often there really
                                              is no basis for a claim. 
                                              If that is the case, it is
                                              even more critical that we
                                              identify and agree upon
                                              the bases for these claims
                                              — whether they are
                                              exercised preventatively
                                              or curatively.  We can’t
                                              put (or keep) a
                                              preventative privilege in
                                              place without clear-cut
                                              reasons that this
                                              privilege exists, and
                                              clear-cut reasons that the
                                              claim must be granted
                                              preventative status.</div>
                                            <div dir="auto"><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div dir="auto">Preventative
                                              rights are equivalent to
                                              “guilty until proven
                                              innocent,” except that
                                              there’s no forum for such
                                              proof — it is entirely at
                                              the discretion of the
                                              privilege-holder. 
                                              Curative rights, on the
                                              other hand, are “innocent
                                              until proven guilty,” with
                                              a forum and a process for
                                              that determination to be
                                              made by an uninterested
                                              entity/person(s).  I tend
                                              to prefer “innocent until
                                              proven guilty” as a
                                              general concept.</div>
                                            <div dir="auto"><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div dir="auto">Best
                                              regards,</div>
                                            <div dir="auto"><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div dir="auto">Greg</div>
                                            <div dir="auto"><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div dir="auto"><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div dir="auto"><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div dir="auto"><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div class="gmail_quote">
                                                <div dir="ltr">On Tue,
                                                  Aug 7, 2018 at 7:22 AM
                                                  <a
                                                    href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>
                                                  Wilkinson <<a
                                                    href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>>
                                                  wrote:<br>
                                                </div>
                                                <blockquote
                                                  class="gmail_quote"
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                                                    <p>Dear Greg:</p>
                                                    <p>I expect that we
                                                      shall find that,
                                                      politically, all
                                                      geographical names
                                                      will be subject to
                                                      preventative
                                                      rules, at least in
                                                      the first
                                                      instance.</p>
                                                    <p>The existing
                                                      'curative'
                                                      procedures appear
                                                      to me to be quite
                                                      unsuitable for
                                                      global application
                                                      at the level of
                                                      disagregation that
                                                      we are currently
                                                      considering.</p>
                                                    <p>Regards</p>
                                                    <p>Christopher</p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p><br>
                                                    </p>
                                                    <p><br>
                                                    </p>
                                                    <blockquote
                                                      type="cite">El 7
                                                      de agosto de 2018
                                                      a las 7:46 Greg
                                                      Shatan <<a
                                                        href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"
                                                        target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <div dir="ltr">
                                                        <div
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">All,</div>
                                                        <div
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Carlos wrote:</div>
                                                        <div
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span
                                                          style="font-family:"Times
                                                          New
                                                          Roman",Times,serif;font-size:14.6667px">I
                                                          just don't
                                                          agree that the
                                                          sole
                                                          recommendation
                                                          of WT5 that is
                                                          going to be
                                                          measure is a
                                                          negative one:
                                                          to restrict
                                                          delegation of
                                                          most
                                                          geographic
                                                          names. In my
                                                          view recommendations
                                                          should be
                                                          framed in a
                                                          positive
                                                          manner, if
                                                          possible.</span> </div>
                                                        <div
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">This reminded me that we have so
                                                          far talked
                                                          almost
                                                          exclusively
                                                          about what are
                                                          generally
                                                          called
                                                          "preventive"
                                                          processes
                                                          (reserve
                                                          lists,
                                                          permission
                                                          requirements,
                                                          blocking
                                                          lists, etc.),
                                                          and very
                                                          little about
                                                          what are
                                                          generally
                                                          called
                                                          "curative"
                                                          processes
                                                          (objections,
                                                          dispute
                                                          resolution
                                                          processes,
                                                          challenge
                                                          processes,
                                                          etc.).  By
                                                          doing so,
                                                          we've taken
                                                          half the tools
                                                          out of the
                                                          toolkit.<br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I just finished working on the
                                                          reconvened
                                                          IGO-INGO
                                                          Preventive
                                                          Rights WG
                                                          where we were
                                                          dealing (at
                                                          this point)
                                                          with
                                                          reserving/restricting
                                                          national Red
                                                          Cross/Red
                                                          Crescent
                                                          society
                                                          names.  In
                                                          this case, a
                                                          preventive
                                                          rights
                                                          approach made
                                                          sense -- the
                                                          names of the
                                                          various
                                                          national
                                                          societies are
                                                          essentially
                                                          unique,
                                                          identified
                                                          only with that
                                                          one entity,
                                                          third party
                                                          uses are
                                                          almost
                                                          certainly done
                                                          in bad faith
                                                          and with bad
                                                          intent, and
                                                          there's no
                                                          real
                                                          underlying
                                                          policy
                                                          disagreement. 
                                                          In some cases
                                                          (e.g., name
                                                          collisions,
                                                          certain
                                                          reserved
                                                          names) there
                                                          is also a
                                                          strong
                                                          technical
                                                          component. 
                                                          This is how
                                                          preventive
                                                          rights have
                                                          generally been
                                                          used in ICANN
                                                          policy -- for
                                                          "slam-dunk"
                                                          cases.</div>
                                                        <div
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">There are few, if any,
                                                          "slam-dunk"
                                                          cases in our
                                                          work.  A good
                                                          case can be
                                                          made for
                                                          2-letter
                                                          letter-letter
                                                          combinations. 
                                                          Perhaps a good
                                                          case can be
                                                          made for some
                                                          of the
                                                          remaining
                                                          classifications
                                                          in this first
                                                          set or
                                                          potential
                                                          recommendations. 
                                                          However, as we
                                                          move "down the
                                                          list", so to
                                                          speak, we get
                                                          further away
                                                          from
                                                          "slam-dunk"
                                                          situations. 
                                                          We could
                                                          potentially
                                                          make more
                                                          headway on
                                                          some of the
                                                          classifications
                                                          of names if we
                                                          considered
                                                          "curative"
                                                          processes,
                                                          instead of
                                                          being so
                                                          intensely
                                                          focused on
                                                          "preventive"
                                                          rights.  This
                                                          tends to turn
                                                          our
                                                          discussions
                                                          into "all or
                                                          nothing"
                                                          choices -- but
                                                          this is a
                                                          false menu,
                                                          since there
                                                          are other
                                                          options aside
                                                          from the
                                                          binary
                                                          "all/nothing"
                                                          that should be
                                                          on the menu.</div>
                                                        <div
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Let's keep this in mind as we
                                                          move forward.</div>
                                                        <div
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div>
                                                        <div
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <div
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-gmail_quote">
                                                        <div dir="ltr">On
                                                          Mon, Aug 6,
                                                          2018 at 6:34
                                                          PM Robin Gross
                                                          <<a
                                                          href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">robin@ipjustice.org</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <blockquote>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="word-wrap:break-word">I
                                                          agree with
                                                          Paul and think
                                                          we should
                                                          declare
                                                          agreement
                                                          where we have
                                                          it, and build
                                                          on that to
                                                          find other
                                                          agreement down
                                                          the line.  The
                                                          process is
                                                          supposed to
                                                          involve
                                                          incremental
                                                          steps and
                                                          building
                                                          blocks along
                                                          the way, and
                                                          that is how we
                                                          will
                                                          eventually
                                                          arrive at a
                                                          consensus.  To
                                                          take the
                                                          “nothing until
                                                          everything”
                                                          approach will
                                                          keep us
                                                          spinning our
                                                          wheels
                                                          indefinitely,
                                                          cause
                                                          confusion, and
                                                          risks
                                                          unexpected
                                                          results, which
                                                          is in no one’s
                                                          interest.
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Best,</div>
                                                          <div>Robin<br>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div>On Aug 6,
                                                          2018, at 2:16
                                                          PM, McGrady,
                                                          Paul D. <<a
href="mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">PMcGrady@winston.com</a>>
                                                          wrote:</div>
                                                          <br
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-m_1757445842593989686Apple-interchange-newline">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-m_1757445842593989686WordSection1"
style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">
                                                          <div
                                                          style="margin:0in
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                                                          Roman",serif"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I’m a little concerned with the “</span>Nothing
                                                          is agreed
                                                          until
                                                          everything is
                                                          agreed”
                                                          approach. 
                                                          This isn’t a
                                                          contract
                                                          negotiation,
                                                          it is a
                                                          consensus
                                                          building
                                                          exercise.  If
                                                          we have to
                                                          wait until
                                                          every topic
                                                          has been
                                                          discussed and
                                                          we think we
                                                          have 100%
                                                          agreement on
                                                          all topics
                                                          before we take
                                                          a consensus
                                                          call on
                                                          individual
                                                          topics, this
                                                          WG will never
                                                          find an end
                                                          point. </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="margin:0in
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                                                          <div
                                                          style="margin:0in
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                                                          <div
                                                          style="margin:0in
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                                                          <div
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style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></div>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="margin:0in
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style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
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                                                          <div
                                                          style="margin:0in
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></strong><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-m_1757445842593989686Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5
                                                          <<a
                                                          href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org</a>><span
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-m_1757445842593989686Apple-converted-space"> </span><strong>On
                                                          Behalf Of<span
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-m_1757445842593989686Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong><a
href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu"
                                                          style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</a><span
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-m_1757445842593989686Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wilkinson<br>
                                                          <strong>Sent:</strong><span
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-m_1757445842593989686Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday,
                                                          August 6, 2018
                                                          4:09 PM<br>
                                                          <strong>To:</strong><span
class="m_8589503193839125919gmail-m_-6234604035014422535m_7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-m_1757445842593989686Apple-converted-space"> </span>Martin
                                                          Sutton <<a
href="mailto:martin@brandregistrygroup.org"
                                                          style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">martin@brandregistrygroup.org</a>><br>
                                                          <strong>Cc:</strong><span
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href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org"
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                                                          <strong>Subject:</strong><span
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[Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] WT5 Agenda, Work Plan & Consensus Call on
                                                          Country &
                                                          Territory
                                                          Names - Please
                                                          review before
                                                          our call.</span></div>
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                                                          <p
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                                                          Co-Leads and
                                                          Martin:</p>
                                                          <p
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                                                          disagree with
                                                          the method
                                                          proposed. </p>
                                                          <p
style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times
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                                                          It is
                                                          premature to
                                                          start
                                                          consensus
                                                          calls on
                                                          certain
                                                          restricted
                                                          topics when
                                                          other more
                                                          critical
                                                          topics have
                                                          not yet been
                                                          discussed.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          2.  Nothing is
                                                          agreed until
                                                          everything is
                                                          agreed.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Regards</p>
                                                          <p
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                                                          6 de agosto de
                                                          2018 a las
                                                          21:06 Martin
                                                          Sutton <<a
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                                                          escribió:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Hi
                                                          Christopher,</div>
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                                                          style="margin:0in
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                                                          order to
                                                          progress the
                                                          building of
                                                          the Initial
                                                          Report, the
                                                          agenda is
                                                          designed to
                                                          focus on how
                                                          we will
                                                          achieve this
                                                          and begin to
                                                          gather
                                                          recommendations
                                                          where we find
                                                          consensus.
                                                          Item 4 was
                                                          raised on the
                                                          last call and
                                                          members were
                                                          requested to
                                                          continue
                                                          discussions
                                                          over the email
                                                          list, although
                                                          this has been
                                                          somewhat quiet
                                                          probably due
                                                          to holiday
                                                          periods. </div>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          style="margin:0in
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                                                          encourage you
                                                          to use the
                                                          email list for
                                                          elaborating on
                                                          non-AGB
                                                          categories,
                                                          this will then
                                                          help towards
                                                          further
                                                          discussions on
                                                          the call. By
                                                          experience of
                                                          the
                                                          discussions
                                                          relating to
                                                          non-capital
                                                          cities, please
                                                          provide a
                                                          sound
                                                          argument/rationale
                                                          for any
                                                          suggestions
                                                          for the group
                                                          to consider,
                                                          rather than
                                                          simply stating
                                                          a request. </div>
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                                                          regards,</div>
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                                                          <p
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                                                          from my iPhone</div>
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                                                          On 6 Aug 2018,
                                                          at 15:25,<span
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href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu"
                                                          style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</a><span
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                                                          <<a
                                                          href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu"
style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"
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                                                          wrote:</p>
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                                                          <p
style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times
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                                                          Co-Leads:  May
                                                          I request that
                                                          point 4 of the
                                                          proposed
                                                          agenda be
                                                          moved up to
                                                          point 1.</p>
                                                          <p
style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times
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                                                          participants,
                                                          including
                                                          myself, have
                                                          only
                                                          persevered
                                                          with WT5
                                                          in-order to
                                                          discuss the
                                                          non-AGB terms.</p>
                                                          <p
style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times
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                                                          include :</p>
                                                          <p
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                                                           all other
                                                          geographical
                                                          terms</p>
                                                          <p
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                                                           geographical
                                                          indications</p>
                                                          <p
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                                                           several
                                                          groups of
                                                          regional,
                                                          cultural,
                                                          economic and
                                                          linguistic
                                                          names.</p>
                                                          <p
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                                                          and regards</p>
                                                          <p
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                                                          Wilkinson</p>
                                                          <blockquote>
                                                          <p
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style="margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New
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                                                          6 de agosto de
                                                          2018 a las
                                                          14:42 Martin
                                                          Sutton <<a
href="mailto:martin@brandregistrygroup.org"
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                                                          escribió:</p>
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style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Please find below the proposed
                                                          agenda for the
                                                          WT5 call on
                                                          Wednesday 8
                                                          August at
                                                          13:00 UTC:</span></div>
                                                          </div>
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style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">1. Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates<br>
2. Review of Consensus Call Process and Work Plan<br>
3. Consensus Call on Country and Territory Names<br>
4. Wrap Up - Non-AGB Terms<br>
                                                          5. AOB</span></div>
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style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On our upcoming call, the
                                                          leadership
                                                          team will
                                                          introduce a
                                                          work plan
                                                          aimed at
                                                          wrapping up
                                                          WT5’s work and
                                                          delivering an
                                                          Initial Report
                                                          by the end of
                                                          September. In
                                                          maintaining
                                                          this timeline,
                                                          the leadership
                                                          is seeking to
                                                          ensure that
                                                          Work Track 5
                                                          inputs can be
                                                          effectively
                                                          integrated
                                                          into the work
                                                          of the broader
                                                          New gTLD
                                                          Subsequent
                                                          Procedures PDP
                                                          Working Group
                                                          in time for
                                                          delivery of
                                                          the PDP’s
                                                          Final Report.
                                                          A copy of the
                                                          work plan is
                                                          attached.</span></div>
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style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">As outlined in the work plan, the
                                                          leadership
                                                          team will be
                                                          holding a
                                                          series of
                                                          consensus
                                                          calls on
                                                          potential
                                                          recommendations
                                                          to include in
                                                          WT5’s Initial
                                                          Report. These
                                                          will be
                                                          introduced in
                                                          clusters, with
                                                          the first set
                                                          of
                                                          recommendations
                                                          focusing on
                                                          country and
                                                          territory
                                                          names. The
                                                          draft
                                                          recommendations,
                                                          which will be
                                                          discussed on
                                                          Wednesday, are
                                                          attached.<span
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style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Work Track members are encouraged
                                                          to review and
                                                          provide
                                                          feedback on
                                                          these draft
                                                          recommendations
                                                          prior to the
                                                          call on
                                                          Wednesday</span></strong>.
                                                          The leadership
                                                          team will
                                                          officially
                                                          open the
                                                          consensus call
                                                          on this topic
                                                          following
                                                          Wednesday’s
                                                          call. For more
                                                          information on
                                                          the consensus
                                                          call process
                                                          that will be
                                                          followed,
                                                          please see the
                                                          GNSO Working
                                                          Group
                                                          Guidelines,
                                                          Section 3.6:<a
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                                                          upcoming call
                                                          or would like
                                                          to send an
                                                          apology,
                                                          please email<span
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