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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">May I recall some measures that I suggested before the European summer break?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Here they go again:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org>
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 26. </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Juni 2018 23:34<br>
<b>An:</b> gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] suggested ideas for improving current system for cities<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Reposting these ideas – it would be great to hear reactions, hopefully constructive ones
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Yesterday in the cross-community discussion there were ideas (some I proposed myself) such as
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">(1) setting a deadline for reacting to a letter of non-objection request;
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">(2) establishing that application may go forward if there is no reaction by the relevant pubic authority
within that set deadline; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">(3) helping the applicant in determining whether the intended string is a city name or not; this could be
done by an advisory body bound to confidentiality;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">(4) creating greater predictability by deferring to local laws and policies defining what a “city name” is
in each jurisdiction… something that in the age of big data should be rather simple…
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">(5) helping the applicant in identifying the relevant public authorities, and in establishing contact with
them;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">(6) establishing mediation or other dispute-resolution procedures when the applicant disagrees with the position
taken by the relevant authority…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">These are all means to address some of the issues alleged on the functioning of the “non-objection”-letter
framework, and to raise predictability and certainty for all parties, without breaking this model that in general (with some limited exceptions) worked well according to the reported data and facts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hope this may be helpful<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Jorge
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">These measures (mentioned in the context of non-capital city names) could IMO as well be helpful in dealing with the “non
AGB geonames”…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Best regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org>
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Nick Wenban-Smith<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 8. August 2018 07:34<br>
<b>An:</b> Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Icann Gnso Newgtld Wg Wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] WT5 Agenda, Work Plan & Consensus Call on Country & Territory Names - Please review before our call.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Apologies if I don’t make the call tomorrow since I am currently on vacation (and if I do it will be with grumpy teenagers in the background!)
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<p class="MsoNormal">However I would echo Greg’s points here. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Below the level of capital cities there are an infinite range of perfectly legitimate uses for a TLD which might also have some geographical or cultural connotations. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’ve listened to the calls and read the list comments and have yet to hear a good solution which is simple and could be explained to my teenage daughter which is my acid test for can something work. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hence my view is to to stick more or less to the 2012 AGB. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Three reasons/ clarifications <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1. The 2012 round was basically very successful and there are some prominent geo TLDs launched and some great exemplars of the mission to improve choice and competition for domains. Yes there were some problems in a tiny minority of cases
but I think that is inherent with this sort of process. There were also problem cases in non geo terms too. Allocating a TLD is not that straightforward- hence the cost and complexity as we all know. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2. I do think that some sort of mediation process in the event of challenge including the option of making a reasonable change to the string you applied for. So if I apply for say .oxford and the town or university or govt or whom ever
kick up a fuss then I could change it to .oxfordstreet or .oxfordsciencepark or .oxfordinstruments or .oxfordtriathlonclub or something to reduce the potential user confusion and make it more distinctive of the basis for my wanting it. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">3. The term ‘city’ itself in the 2012 AGB was never defined. I think that where an applicant states in its application that the purposes of the TLD include any sort of representation of a place or community then they should a) be expected
to do some due diligence ahead of applying and therefore expect some push back from those places or communities and b) submit evidence of support from the places or communities they purport to be representing. If you’re clearly not representing a place or
a community then there shouldn’t be a basis for blocking the application. (If that turns out to be false then the TLD applicant should rightly face compliance action and even potentially lose the TLD). <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would be glad to see any advance on the above and hope we can find some common ground. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best wishes <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Nick <o:p></o:p></p>
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On 6 Aug 2018, at 23:47, Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Carlos wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I just don't agree that the sole recommendation of WT5 that is going to be measure is a negative one: to restrict delegation of most geographic names. In my view recommendations should be framed in a positive
manner, if possible.</span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">This reminded me that we have so far talked almost exclusively about what are generally called "preventive" processes (reserve lists, permission requirements, blocking lists, etc.), and very
little about what are generally called "curative" processes (objections, dispute resolution processes, challenge processes, etc.). By doing so, we've taken half the tools out of the toolkit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I just finished working on the reconvened IGO-INGO Preventive Rights WG where we were dealing (at this point) with reserving/restricting national Red Cross/Red Crescent society names. In this
case, a preventive rights approach made sense -- the names of the various national societies are essentially unique, identified only with that one entity, third party uses are almost certainly done in bad faith and with bad intent, and there's no real underlying
policy disagreement. In some cases (e.g., name collisions, certain reserved names) there is also a strong technical component. This is how preventive rights have generally been used in ICANN policy -- for "slam-dunk" cases.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">There are few, if any, "slam-dunk" cases in our work. A good case can be made for 2-letter letter-letter combinations. Perhaps a good case can be made for some of the remaining classifications
in this first set or potential recommendations. However, as we move "down the list", so to speak, we get further away from "slam-dunk" situations. We could potentially make more headway on some of the classifications of names if we considered "curative"
processes, instead of being so intensely focused on "preventive" rights. This tends to turn our discussions into "all or nothing" choices -- but this is a false menu, since there are other options aside from the binary "all/nothing" that should be on the
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Let's keep this in mind as we move forward.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Greg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 6:34 PM Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree with Paul and think we should declare agreement where we have it, and build on that to find other agreement down the line. The process is supposed to involve incremental steps and building blocks along the way, and that is how
we will eventually arrive at a consensus. To take the “nothing until everything” approach will keep us spinning our wheels indefinitely, cause confusion, and risks unexpected results, which is in no one’s interest.
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="m1757445842593989686apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] WT5 Agenda, Work Plan & Consensus Call on Country & Territory Names - Please review before our call.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Dear Co-Leads and Martin:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I disagree with the method proposed. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>1. It is premature to start consensus calls on certain restricted topics when other more critical topics have not yet been discussed.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In order to progress the building of the Initial Report, the agenda is designed to focus on how we will achieve this and begin to gather recommendations where we find consensus. Item 4 was raised on the last call and members were requested
to continue discussions over the email list, although this has been somewhat quiet probably due to holiday periods. <o:p></o:p></p>
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On 6 Aug 2018, at 15:25,<span class="m1757445842593989686apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</span></a><span class="m1757445842593989686apple-converted-space"> </span>Wilkinson
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<p>Dear Co-Leads: May I request that point 4 of the proposed agenda be moved up to point 1.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Some participants, including myself, have only persevered with WT5 in-order to discuss the non-AGB terms.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>- geographical indications<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>- several groups of regional, cultural, economic and linguistic names.<o:p></o:p></p>
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