<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Dear All<div>I agree with Katrin. In principle</div><div>Kavouss<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 8 Aug 2018, at 08:31, Katrin Ohlmer | DOTZON GmbH <<a href="mailto:ohlmer@dotzon.com">ohlmer@dotzon.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear Robin,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">In the last round, each application went through the geographic names panel. Although this panel apparently did not work perfectly, this body could be enhanced rather than setting up
a new body like a dispute resolution process for geo names. Since the geographic names panel check is earlier in the application review process, it would add to predictability and clarity for applicants. Also, the DRP came with a pretty hefty price tag and
has been a lengthy process, so an earlier determination whether the applied-for string can proceed, could be favourable for all parties involved. Together with the proposal from Nick of adding further due diligence requirements before filing an application,
could reduce the risk of conflicts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Katrin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Von:</b> Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Robin Gross<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 8. August 2018 01:14<br>
<b>An:</b> Javier Rua <<a href="mailto:javrua@gmail.com">javrua@gmail.com</a>>; Icann Gnso Newgtld Wg Wt5 <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] WT5 Agenda, Work Plan & Consensus Call on Country & Territory Names - Please review before our call.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks, Javier. Perhaps dispute resolution providers could engage in an evaluation process that involved a balancing of legitimate interests with respect to the particular GTLD string in contention. This is what we do for other legitimate
interests, like the legal rights objections and the community objections, etc. So rather than presume a string can’t go forward if it refers to a word with geographic meaning, someone who believes their interests would be violated by the string would have
an opportunity to object and the dispute can be heard without any preconception of a single interest being given automatic preference over all the others. Working in the direction of creating that process seems far more fruitful for this group than people
taking entrenched positions on preventative rights and we continue to go in circles.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Aug 7, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Javier Rua <<a href="mailto:javrua@gmail.com">javrua@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Good conversation. What could some “a posteriori” / “curative” processes for something like “non-AGB geoNames” look like? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">twitter: @javrua<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree with Greg and would add that many of us would be far less resistant to the concept of “geo names” if the underlying right/privilege provided was a curative right (rather than preventative). For some, the biggest problem we have
with “geo names” is the presumption of restrictions (in this case a “veto power” to a single actor) so moving discussion towards curative rights could be a very useful way of working toward an ultimate consensus.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Aug 7, 2018, at 9:53 AM, Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You can’t just throw the word “politically” into the middle of an unsupported claim and expect to be persuasive (or even understood). I don’t see any reason or reasoning where would find “all geographic names” to be subject to any rules,
much less preventative rules. Quite the contrary. Can you explain your use of “politically” and what that implies? Where do you see politics coming into the ICANN policy-making process, and which politics are you referring to?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Curative procedures have been successfully invoked since the dawn of ICANN (and long, long before, in a multitude of settings) to allow someone to assert a claim against another party’s actions on the basis of agreed-upon standards. To
write off the entire concept as “unsuitable,” again without support, seems both extreme and premature. New curative procedures were created for the 2012 round, and we could adapt those or create something different if we wanted to. On a policy level, there’s
absolutely no reason for curative procedures to be “unsuitable.” Indeed, for reasons I very recently stated, they are far more suitable than preventative rights for the vast majority of terms with geographic meanings. Helping them work appropriately is an
implementation-level concern that should not impede good policy-making.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As a group trying to reach consensus, we should not put all of our eggs into the one basket of preventative measures — no matter how much some participants want us to do so. I understand the allure of preventative processes over curative
processes — you don’t need to watch anything, you don’t need to initiate anything, you don’t need to prove anything, and you don’t even need to explain anything. It’s a completely one-sided approach — which is good for one-sided, slam-dunk situations. Conversely,
they are not particularly good where there are two sides to the story. Perhaps there is a concern that in a “curative” process over terms with geographic meanings, the “objectors” will not be able to succeed very often — that often there really is no basis
for a claim. If that is the case, it is even more critical that we identify and agree upon the bases for these claims — whether they are exercised preventatively or curatively. We can’t put (or keep) a preventative privilege in place without clear-cut reasons
that this privilege exists, and clear-cut reasons that the claim must be granted preventative status.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Preventative rights are equivalent to “guilty until proven innocent,” except that there’s no forum for such proof — it is entirely at the discretion of the privilege-holder. Curative rights, on the other hand, are “innocent until proven
guilty,” with a forum and a process for that determination to be made by an uninterested entity/person(s). I tend to prefer “innocent until proven guilty” as a general concept.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I expect that we shall find that, politically, all geographical names will be subject to preventative rules, at least in the first instance.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I just don't agree that the sole recommendation of WT5 that is going to be measure is a negative one: to restrict delegation of most geographic names. In my view recommendations should be
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">This reminded me that we have so far talked almost exclusively about what are generally called "preventive" processes (reserve lists, permission requirements, blocking lists, etc.), and very
little about what are generally called "curative" processes (objections, dispute resolution processes, challenge processes, etc.). By doing so, we've taken half the tools out of the toolkit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I just finished working on the reconvened IGO-INGO Preventive Rights WG where we were dealing (at this point) with reserving/restricting national Red Cross/Red Crescent society names. In this
case, a preventive rights approach made sense -- the names of the various national societies are essentially unique, identified only with that one entity, third party uses are almost certainly done in bad faith and with bad intent, and there's no real underlying
policy disagreement. In some cases (e.g., name collisions, certain reserved names) there is also a strong technical component. This is how preventive rights have generally been used in ICANN policy -- for "slam-dunk" cases.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">There are few, if any, "slam-dunk" cases in our work. A good case can be made for 2-letter letter-letter combinations. Perhaps a good case can be made for some of the remaining classifications
in this first set or potential recommendations. However, as we move "down the list", so to speak, we get further away from "slam-dunk" situations. We could potentially make more headway on some of the classifications of names if we considered "curative"
processes, instead of being so intensely focused on "preventive" rights. This tends to turn our discussions into "all or nothing" choices -- but this is a false menu, since there are other options aside from the binary "all/nothing" that should be on the
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 6:34 PM Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree with Paul and think we should declare agreement where we have it, and build on that to find other agreement down the line. The process is supposed to involve incremental steps and building blocks along the way, and that is how
we will eventually arrive at a consensus. To take the “nothing until everything” approach will keep us spinning our wheels indefinitely, cause confusion, and risks unexpected results, which is in no one’s interest.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I’m a little concerned with the “</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed” approach. This isn’t a contract negotiation, it is
a consensus building exercise. If we have to wait until every topic has been discussed and we think we have 100% agreement on all topics before we take a consensus call on individual topics, this WG will never find an end point. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></strong><span class="m7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-m1757445842593989686apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org</span></a>><span class="m7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-m1757445842593989686apple-converted-space"> </span><strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">On
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<strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sent:</span></strong><span class="m7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-m1757445842593989686apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, August 6, 2018 4:09 PM<br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">To:</span></strong><span class="m7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-m1757445842593989686apple-converted-space"> </span>Martin Sutton <<a href="mailto:martin@brandregistrygroup.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">martin@brandregistrygroup.org</span></a>><br>
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<strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Subject:</span></strong><span class="m7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-m1757445842593989686apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] WT5 Agenda, Work Plan & Consensus Call on Country & Territory
Names - Please review before our call.<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Dear Co-Leads and Martin:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I disagree with the method proposed. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">1. It is premature to start consensus calls on certain restricted topics when other more critical topics have
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2. Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">El 6 de agosto de 2018 a las 21:06 Martin Sutton <<a href="mailto:martin@brandregistrygroup.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">martin@brandregistrygroup.org</span></a>>
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Hi Christopher,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">In order to progress the building of the Initial Report, the agenda is designed to focus on how we will achieve this and begin to gather recommendations where we find consensus.
Item 4 was raised on the last call and members were requested to continue discussions over the email list, although this has been somewhat quiet probably due to holiday periods. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">We encourage you to use the email list for elaborating on non-AGB categories, this will then help towards further discussions on the call. By experience of the discussions
relating to non-capital cities, please provide a sound argument/rationale for any suggestions for the group to consider, rather than simply stating a request. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On 6 Aug 2018, at 15:25,<span class="m7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-m1757445842593989686apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</span></a><span class="m7592807626265123294ox-d4735d55fc-m1757445842593989686apple-converted-space"> </span>Wilkinson
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Dear Co-Leads: May I request that point 4 of the proposed agenda be moved up to point 1.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Some participants, including myself, have only persevered with WT5 in-order to discuss the non-AGB terms.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">These include :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">- all other geographical terms<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">- geographical indications<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">- several groups of regional, cultural, economic and linguistic names.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Thankyou and regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On our upcoming call, the leadership team will introduce a work plan aimed at wrapping up WT5’s work and delivering an Initial Report by the end of September. In maintaining this timeline, the leadership is
seeking to ensure that Work Track 5 inputs can be effectively integrated into the work of the broader New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP Working Group in time for delivery of the PDP’s Final Report. A copy of the work plan is attached.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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