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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Dear Greg,<o:p></o:p></span></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I agree with your rationale: If we are protecting all countries & territories (and their short forms) in ALL languages we are grossly overreaching. And what would be the PURPOSE? WHOM do we exactly protect? We are protecting two types of entities:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>The Internet User – so he doesn’t get confused or “tricked” into trusting a source that doesn’t deserve any trust<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>The People that constitute the citizens of a certain country (and are represented by their elected Government)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>We are grossly inconsistent in this WT5:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>We aren’t protecting cities with MILLIONS of directly affected citizens from losing their namespace to brands, vultures and moneymakers by keeping the “non-geo use” loophole that CRIES to be exploited! But then we contemplate to BLOCK a huge swath of names (as per Greg: potentially millions) that really don’t have any potential for being exploited.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>But more important: Applicants need to be able to “test” their strings easily. Anything like “common language” makes a test impossible; and “predictability” goes down the drain. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Alexander <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan<br><b>Sent:</b> Freitag, 10. August 2018 07:43<br><b>To:</b> Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Icann Gnso Newgtld Wg Wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Ext] AW: Additional Input Requested - "in any language"<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Reserving country names in "any language" is ridiculously overbroad and serves no useful purpose. It contradicts an overarching policy concept -- that reserving strings should be done conservatively and must be based on an underlying policy justification. In honor of GDPR, let's call this "reservation minimization". In both the One and Two Letter Reserved Names Working Group (my first WG, back in 2007) and the IGO-INGO Preventative Rights WG, this principle was clearly understood and careful deliberations took place over relatively small variations in the number of reserved names. In the IGO-INGO group, it was very important to generate a finite list <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>The "any language" reservation turns this on its head. For "long form country names" alone, this results in the reservation of approximately <b><span style='color:blue'>1,752,959</span></b> reserved names (assuming 247 countries & territories and 7097 languages). Add the "short form country name" and we're up to approximately <b><span style='color:red'>3,505,918</span></b> reserved names. In reality, <u>we have no real what these reserved names actually are. </u> They are "reserved" in some conceptual way, I guess. Do we know how to say "Anguilla" in Lungalunga? Is there even a way to refer to Anguilla in Lungalunga? Maybe it's just Anguilla, but that cannot be assumed. This is an absurd result that does not withstand scrutiny.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>A much narrower approach needs to be taken. We need to be practical but we need to have strong underlying principles. For instance, "official languages" is too narrow, because many countries don't have official languages. The Ethnologue website has useful categories that can be employed to expand this in a principal manner. For instance, one category is "de facto national language," described as "the language in which the business of the national government is conducted but this is not mandated by law. It is also the language of national identity for the citizens of the country." This deals with the United States and similar countries. See Table 3 at <a href="https://www.ethnologue.com/about/language-status">https://www.ethnologue.com/about/language-status</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>The term "relevant languages" has no meaning and no boundaries. It's a bad idea for us to invent categories. It will continue to result in absurdly long, overbroad and unlistable lists of country name translations. Since we are dealing with something as absolute as reservations, we need to be clear about what we are reserving and why.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>As Marita's email indicates, we still have work to do to find a source that goes far enough without going too far. The Ethnologue website also has a useful concept -- the "principal language(s)" of a country. This may not work exactly, but conceptually it's far closer to where we need to be.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>To sum up, I'd look toward a formulation like the principal languages and six UN languages, where the principal languages are the official or de facto national languages and the statutory or de facto provincial languages of that country.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Greg<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 11:11 AM Javier Rua <<a href="mailto:javrua@gmail.com" target="_blank">javrua@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks, Marita.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div id="m_4946164635890280215m_-3425258817620135087AppleMailSignature"><p class=MsoNormal>Javier Rúa-Jovet<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>+1-787-396-6511<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>twitter: @javrua<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>skype: javier.rua1<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Aug 9, 2018, at 10:50 AM, Marita Moll <<a href="mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net" target="_blank">mmoll@ca.inter.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__unstats.un.org_unsd_geoinfo_UNGEGN_docs_26th-2Dgegn-2Ddocs_WP_WP54-5FUNGEGN-2520WG-2520Country-2520Names-2520Document-25202011.pdf&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mBQzlSaM6eYCHFBU-v48zs-QSrjHB0aWmHuE4X4drzI&m=3RBrAW4mWZcTPVfCD2YJOz3VODn7HkbFx9d59ip1OQ8&s=TLfnTlAegQWCm3YnzQVenw5bkmrnQzGkY0wNxKVA34Y&e=" target="_blank"><i><span style='color:#1155CC;background:white'>Working Paper 54</span></i> [unstats.un.org]</a><i><span style='background:white'> is a fascinating resource. It does not appear difficult to identify the national official languages of countries.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p>But it has problems. I looked at India which lists English and Hindi as official languages. But they don't list the 12 official regional languages like Urdu, Bengali, Punjabi -- many thousands of people speak these languages and I don't see how we could disenfranchise them. So I am going to go for "official and commonly spoken languages" or "official and relevant languages." I could also go for "any language" but that's a big door to open.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Marita<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 8/9/2018 4:35 PM, Emily Barabas wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi Jorge,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks for laying out these options in a clear format. Perhaps it indeed does make sense to take a step back and focus not on the text suggested earlier in the week, but on the alternatives raised:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>(1) maintain “all languages”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>(2) official languages and official UN languages </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>(3) some intermediate solution covering all languages commonly used in a given country to identify its name… (there could be several options: “common languages”; “commonly used languages”; “relevant national, regional and community languages”, etc.)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>All are encouraged to provide feedback.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Emily<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch" target="_blank">"Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch"</a> <a href="mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch" target="_blank"><Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch></a><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, 9 August 2018 at 16:30<br><b>To: </b>Emily Barabas <a href="mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org" target="_blank"><emily.barabas@icann.org></a>, <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" target="_blank">"gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org"</a> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" target="_blank"><gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org></a><br><b>Subject: </b>[Ext] AW: Additional Input Requested - "in any language"</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Dear Emily</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>As a threshold consideration: as there is no clear “room consensus” on this question I feel that there should be no preference given to any of the, as I see, three main options at hand: (1) maintain “all languages”; (2) official languages and official UN languages; (3) some intermediate solution covering all languages commonly used in a given country to identify its name… (there could be several options: “common languages”; “commonly used languages”; “relevant national, regional and community languages”, etc.)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Therefore either we have the AGB (amended) language for the three main options or we have it for none. We cannot just have the amended language as “suggested recommendation” reflecting only option (2) above.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks for considering and best regards</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Jorge </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE> Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org></a> <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Emily Barabas<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 9. August 2018 15:44<br><b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a><br><b>Betreff:</b> [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Additional Input Requested - "in any language"</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Dear all,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On our call yesterday there was some robust discussion about draft recommendations 3, 4, and 6, which suggest changing “in any language” to <span style='color:black'>“official languages of the country and the official UN languages” for several AGB categories. Please reply to this thread to provide additional input on the suggested edit</span>s<span style='color:black'> or alternate options listed at the bottom of this message. </span>For reference, h<span style='color:black'>ere is an excerpt of AGB text with redline reflecting suggested recommendations:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><i><span style='color:#7F7F7F'>2.2.1.4.1 Treatment of Country or Territory Names</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span style='color:black'>Applications for strings that are country or territory names will not be approved, as they are not available under the New gTLD Program in this application round. A string shall be considered to be a country or territory name if: </span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:39.25pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><i><span style='color:black'>it is a long-form name listed in the ISO 3166-1 standard, or a translation of the long-form name in <s>any language</s> </span><span style='color:red'>official languages of the country and the official UN languages</span><span style='color:black'>.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:39.25pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><i><span style='color:black'>it is a short-form name listed in the ISO 3166-1 standard, or a translation of the short-form name in <s>any language</s> </span><span style='color:red'>official languages of the country and the official UN languages</span><span style='color:black'>.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:39.25pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><i><span style='color:black'>it is a separable component of a country name designated on the “Separable Country Names List,” or is a translation of a name appearing on the list, in <s>any language</s> </span><span style='color:red'>official languages of the country and the official UN languages</span><span style='color:black'>. See the Annex at the end of this module.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Below you will find an excerpt from the Working Document (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1BRzHr2FxSTYHX1I8F3FHSt6Bo1cvJsKyWX8WZXRUXAo_edit&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mBQzlSaM6eYCHFBU-v48zs-QSrjHB0aWmHuE4X4drzI&m=3RBrAW4mWZcTPVfCD2YJOz3VODn7HkbFx9d59ip1OQ8&s=tgdbEifJR44Y-36ksHnuVZJ06y9V_-KbnoOXh1NYOsU&e=" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BRzHr2FxSTYHX1I8F3FHSt6Bo1cvJsKyWX8WZXRUXAo/edit [docs.google.com]</a>) highlighting some of the ideas and arguments shared on the mailing list and on calls:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><i><span style='color:black;background:white'>Some Work Track members stated that the text “in any language” results in a very large number of reserved strings and does not provide a clear and objective list that can be used as reference. From this perspective, the provision is not predictable or transparent. One Work Track member also noted that some languages are spoken by very few people, therefore reserving representations in all languages may not be appropriate. From another perspective, “in any language” should remain in place unless there is a factual basis for limiting the languages covered in this provision. Many languages may be spoken by and relevant to communities within a given country, and the list should therefore not be limited. Work Track members suggested the following possible options as alternatives to “in any language”: </span></i><o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><i><span style='background:white'>Limit the list to the official UN languages.</span></i> <o:p></o:p></li></ul><ul type=disc><ul type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><i><span style='background:white'>One Work Track member stated that if the UN languages are included, the text should state “including but not limited to official UN languages.”</span></i><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><i><span style='background:white'>Another WT member stated that there are no “official UN languages.” There are “UN working languages.”</span></i><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><i><span style='background:white'>One Work Track member suggested that Portuguese should be added to this list as it is an ICANN language. </span></i><o:p></o:p></li></ul></ul><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><i><span style='background:white'>Limit the list to Create a list of languages using the official languages of each country and official UN languages.</span></i> <o:p></o:p></li></ul><ul type=disc><ul type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><i><span style='background:white'>Some Work Track members stated that it might be difficult to identify the official languages of each country. One WT member asked in the WT would take on the task of creating such a list.</span></i> <o:p></o:p></li></ul></ul><ul type=disc><ul type=circle><ul type=square><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level3 lfo2;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><i><span style='background:white'>One Work Track member suggested using as a starting point </span></i><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__unstats.un.org_unsd_geoinfo_UNGEGN_docs_26th-2Dgegn-2Ddocs_WP_WP54-5FUNGEGN-2520WG-2520Country-2520Names-2520Document-25202011.pdf&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mBQzlSaM6eYCHFBU-v48zs-QSrjHB0aWmHuE4X4drzI&m=3RBrAW4mWZcTPVfCD2YJOz3VODn7HkbFx9d59ip1OQ8&s=TLfnTlAegQWCm3YnzQVenw5bkmrnQzGkY0wNxKVA34Y&e=" target="_blank"><i><span style='color:#1155CC;background:white'>Working Paper 54</span></i> [unstats.un.org]</a><i><span style='background:white'> of the UN Group of Experts on Geographical Names (UNGEGN).</span></i><o:p></o:p></li></ul></ul></ul><ul type=disc><ul type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><i><span style='background:white'>Another WT member stated that there are no “official UN languages.” There are “UN working languages.”</span></i><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><i><span style='background:white'>From one perspective, the list should not be limited in this way. Official UN languages are largely irrelevant in many countries. Also from this perspective, the concept of official languages only appears in certain countries. In this view, the administrations in many countries use languages that are not official. People of the country also use languages that may not be official, and these languages are important to specific communities.</span></i><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><i><span style='background:white'>Alternate to “official languages” suggested: “official and relevant languages.”</span></i> <o:p></o:p></li></ul></ul><ul type=disc><ul type=circle><ul type=square><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level3 lfo2;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><i><span style='background:white'>Example used in relation to “relevant languages”: “We have more than 25% of foreign-born people living in Switzerland. They refer to Switzerland in their languages and scripts. These are relevant languages/scripts that should be covered.”</span></i><o:p></o:p></li></ul></ul></ul><ul type=disc><ul type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><i><span style='background:white'>Alternate to “official languages” suggested: “official and commonly spoken languages.”</span></i><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><i><span style='background:white'>One Work Track member suggested that Portuguese should be added to this list as it is an ICANN language. </span></i><o:p></o:p></li></ul></ul><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><i><span style='background:white'>Develop a list using the </span></i><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ethnologue.com_about_language-2Dstatus&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mBQzlSaM6eYCHFBU-v48zs-QSrjHB0aWmHuE4X4drzI&m=3RBrAW4mWZcTPVfCD2YJOz3VODn7HkbFx9d59ip1OQ8&s=b8MTrxrLtgXCvwAkW1Hc6hr0mNf_SYEyuINez9Kgfng&e=" target="_blank"><i><span style='color:#1155CC;background:white'>Expanded Graded Intergenerational Disruption Scale and categorization based on Official Recognition</span></i> [ethnologue.com]</a><i><span style='background:white'>.</span></i><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><i><span style='background:white'>Create an exhaustive repository of all country names in all languages. </span></i><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2;background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><i><span style='background:white'>Change “in any language” to “in any script.”</span></i><o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Emily<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" target="_blank">Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" target="_blank">Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" target="_blank">Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>