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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear Steve,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">thanks for your input!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">One observation on the work of the Geographic names panel, though: Can you please clarify which lists have been used by the panel for the determination if the string
is a geographic name? It seems to me that for instance .java has been overlooked and we might want to avoid this outcome in round 2.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">One recommendation: To determine whether the applied-for string equates a city name, there are objective references available, e.g. by the UN:
<a href="http://unstats.un.org/unsd/demographic/products/dyb/dyb2015/Table08.xls">
http://unstats.un.org/unsd/demographic/products/dyb/dyb2015/Table08.xls</a> So I would recommend to add this list to their due diligence.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org>
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Steve Chan<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 16. November 2018 01:03<br>
<b>An:</b> gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Action Item - City Name (i.e., non-capital city name) Definition Research<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Dear Work Track 5 Members,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">During the Work Track 5 sessions at ICANN63, some participants expressed the belief that the Geographic Names Panel must have utilized a definition to identify applied-for gTLDs that
were non-capital city names. Determining if there was a definition, and tracking it down, was an action item from this session.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">As a first step, staff reviewed the Evaluation Panel Process Documentation for the Geographic Names Panel (here:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/evaluation-panels/geo-names-process-07jun13-en.pdf"><span style="color:#954F72">https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/evaluation-panels/geo-names-process-07jun13-en.pdf</span></a>).
Here, we understand that all applications are checked against country or territory names (or other lists that would cause the applied-for TLD to be ineligible for delegation), regardless of whether the applicant believes the string is Geographic Name.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Assuming the applied-for string passes this initial lookup, the panel will then review the application and the applied-for gTLD to determine whether or not the string is a Geographic Name (again, regardless
of whether the applicant believes the string is Geographic Name).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">In some circumstances, where there is a precise list for the Geographic Names Panel to use as a reference (e.g., capital city names, sub-national place name, UNESCO region or appearing on the “Composition
of macro geographical (continental) regions, geographical sub-regions, and selected economic and other groupings” list), this process is relatively straight-forward.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">However, for city names (or non-capital city names as they are being referred to in Work Track 5), there is no<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><u>objective reference</u><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>to
utilize</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">. In this circumstance,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">per the Applicant Guidebook,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="color:black">the
string AND the applicant’s statements in their application were considered collectively to determine whether the applied-for string should be subject to the geographic names requirements. As such, there does not appear to be a definition that can be leveraged
by Work Track 5. For your convenience, the city name Geographic Names criteria is reproduced below.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Please let us know if you have any questions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Best,<br>
Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">2. An application for a city name, where the applicant declares that it intends to use the gTLD for purposes associated with the city name.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">City names present challenges because city names may also be generic terms or brand names, and in many cases city names are not unique. Unlike other types of geographic names, there are no established
lists that can be used as objective references in the evaluation process. Thus, city names are not universally protected. However, the process does provide a means for cities and applicants to work together where desired.</span></i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> </span></i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">An application for a city name will be subject to the geographic names requirements (i.e., will require documentation of support or non-objection from the relevant governments or public authorities)
if:</span></i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> </span></i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">(a) It is clear from applicant statements within the application that the applicant will use the TLD primarily for purposes associated with the city name; and</span></i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">(b) The applied-for string is a city name as listed on official city documents. [**see footnote below]</span></i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">**<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>City governments with concerns about strings that are duplicates, nicknames or close renderings of a city name should not rely on the evaluation process
as the primary means of protecting their interests in a string. Rather, a government may elect to file a formal objection to an application that is opposed by the relevant community, or may submit its own application for the string.</span></i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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