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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Hi,<br><br>The “formerly called bright line” rule proposal (page 79 of 117 in the WT5 Report PDF of Nov 27) states:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6'>Proposal: Apply a clear and unambiguous rule that any geographic term </span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:red'>that is not <u>explicitly and expressly protected</u></span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6'> is unprotected. No objection or non-consent can be used to stop its registration<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>In my view non-capital city name based gTLD strings are ONLY “explicitly and expressly protected” by the “Geographic Names Review” if:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>“It is clear from applicant statements within the<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>application that the applicant will use the TLD<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>primarily for purposes associated with the city<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>name ……”<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>Quote 2.2.1.4.2 2.(a) of the 2012 AGB<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>In other words: If an applicant DOESN’T make clear that he wants to use the string PRIMARELY “for purposes associated with the city name” – then in my mind per the current AGB provisions such string is NOT “explicitly and expressly protected” – hence the applicant does not need to provide city government support! In other words: The way the “bright line proposal” is formulated today would lead to a ban of “gTLD civil rights”: no objections allowed! <br><br>But the author of the bright line rule asserted, that it is his intention that ALL non-capital city name based applications (whether or not geo-use intent is present) would NOT be subject to the bright line rule:<br>Greg in his email from November 19 2018:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>I think you are </span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:red'>misinterpreting</span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'> my proposal, and </span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:red'>misunderstanding </span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>and </span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:red'>mis-presenting </span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>it as well.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>First, the proposal relates only to strings that are not expressly protected as geographic terms in the AGB. If "Shanghai" is a non-capital city name (which it is), and we have a provision that protects "non-capital city names," then this proposal would not apply to an application for .shanghai.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>In this light (but only if Greg approves): <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>My suggestion would be to change the bright line rule into:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='color:#2E75B6'>Proposal: Apply a clear and unambiguous rule that any geographic term </span><span style='color:red'>that is not <u>explicitly and expressly impacted by the geographic names review</u></span><span style='color:#2E75B6'> is unprotected. No objection or non-consent can be used to stop its registration</span></i></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Obviously I am open to other ways to edit of Greg’s proposal. But the wording “explicitly and expressly protected” is pretty clear! It would EXCEMPT non-capital city name based gTLD applications if the applicants wouldn’t declare to PRIMARELY target the city. So a “.shanghai” being applied the exact same way as “.bike” could not be objected by the Shanghai Government or the Shanghai stakeholder group of local constituents. Do we really want that? <br><br>Right now I am quoted on this with comment “A110R107” (page 79 of 117 – comments at the right):<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>Alexander Schubert:<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>Suggested altering the proposal to state “A brand or<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>generic term based application that is NOT a city,<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>subnational division, unesco region would simply pass<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>the geographic names review WITHOUT any further<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>investigation. So it would not be “impacted” by it.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>However a non-capital city name would be always<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>impacted, as the panel had to start evaluating the<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>application – trying to find out whether the applicant<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>intends to use it “primarily for purposes associated with<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>the city name”.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><br>That’s not my “suggested alteration” – but part of my EXPLAINATION why the bright line rule is harmful! Please change this into:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>Alexander Schubert:<br>Suggested altering the proposal to state “Proposal: Apply a <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>clear and unambiguous rule that any geographic term that <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>is not explicitly and expressly <u>impacted by the geographic <o:p></o:p></u></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>names review </span></u></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>is unprotected. No objection or non-consent <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>can be used to stop its registration.”<br>He claims that the current version of the proposal would eliminate <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#2E75B6;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>the right to object to non-capital city name based gTLD applications<br>that do not require a letter of non-objection; making it impossible <br>for vulnerable city communities to defend their gTLD namespace<br>against gTLD squatting, extortion and abuse.</span></i></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Again: please do NOT alter Greg’s proposal without his consent. But please correct my “A110R107” comment.<br><br>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Alexander.berlin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> emily.barabas@icann.org; gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Dear Emily<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Please include the following comments in the consideration:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Page 12: “Treatment of these strings was inconsistent.” </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>à</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> this is just the opinion expressed (as far as I know) by one member. “inconsistent” is a value call. We could say that there were different treatments – whether that differentiation was inconsistent or not has not been agreed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Page 42: the following heading/intro seems to reflect an agreed view, when it is only the view of “some”, hence it should read “Some of the issues problems and negative experiences that </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:red;background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>some</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> Work Track members identified from the 2012 round include the following.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Best regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Jorge <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:11.0pt'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='font-size:11.0pt'> Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <</span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org"><span lang=DE style='font-size:11.0pt'>gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span lang=DE style='font-size:11.0pt'>> <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Emily Barabas<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 27. </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>November 2018 20:52<br><b>An:</b> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org"><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><br><b>Betreff:</b> [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - Work Track 5 - 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Please find below the proposed agenda for the Work Track 5 call taking place tomorrow 28 November 2018 at 20:00 UTC for 90 mins.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo7'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo7'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Initial Report – Outstanding Items<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo7'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>AOB<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:54.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo9'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Additional information request – Geographic Names Panel <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Please find attached the latest version of the draft Initial Report. This version incorporates new feedback received in the last week. New comments are highlighted in either blue or yellow. For those highlighted in blue, the resolution was relatively straightforward and staff has proposed edits. Comments in yellow require additional input and will be discussed on the call tomorrow.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Emily<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Emily Barabas </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>| Policy Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>ICANN</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Email: </span><a href="mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org"><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>emily.barabas@icann.org</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>