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<p class="MsoPlainText">Dear Work Track members,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Please see below the notes from the meeting today, 19 June 2019. These high-level notes are designed to help WG members navigate through the content of the call and are not a substitute for the recording, transcript, or the chat, which
will be posted at: <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/d4qjBg">https://community.icann.org/x/d4qjBg</a>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Emily<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Action Item:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">To discuss later (“parking lot”) - WT5 to discuss how to resolve, under different scenarios, if there are multiple applications for the same string proposing different uses. Should there be prioritization
or weighting of certain applications? For example, if the group determines that there should be rules with respect to non-AGB terms, prioritization of different types of applications in a contention set should be considered.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Notes:</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">1. Updates to Statements of Interest (SOI): No updates.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">2. Summary Document Review: </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Co-leaders briefly went over documents that explain the task at hand for the group and summarize current status of deliberations.
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">a. Geographic Terms That Require Letters of Support/Non-Objection Dependent Upon Intended Usage (Recommendation 11) –
<i>continued from last meeting</i></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Co-leaders briefly went over relevant preliminary recommendation</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Co-leaders briefly went over comments suggesting modification to existing preliminary recommendation (discussed more extensively on the last call)</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Review of comments not yet discussed, beginning on page 16 -- comments from those that believe that a letter of support/non-objection should not be required if the applicant has trademark rights and is using the TLD in association
with a brand.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">One WT member asked for clarification regarding how the INTA proposal should work if there is another applicant that wants to use the name in association with a city name (middle of page 16). See comment in Google Document.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Raises question of whether one use or another takes precedence if there are multiple applications for the same string. Is a special process put in place or do the existing mechanisms described in the AGB to resolve contention
remain (auctions of last resort, etc)?</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">In the 2012 round, if there were two applications in the contention set for geographic names, standard contention resolution would not go forward.
</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">In the 2012 round, if one application proposed geographic use and one proposed generic use, this contention set could proceed to auction.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Reminder that auctions of last resort as the method of resolving contention are under discussion in the full Working Group.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Action Item:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">To discuss later (“parking lot”) - WT5 to discuss how to resolve, under different scenarios, if there are multiple applications for the same string proposing different uses. Should there be prioritization
or weighting of certain applications? For example, if the group determines that there should be rules with respect to non-AGB terms, prioritization of different types of applications in a contention set should be considered.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Review of comments related to relying on curative mechanisms (page 16)</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">One WT member expressed concern on standing to file objections if curative mechanisms are the focus of protections</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Review of comments on the possibility of requiring a letter of support/non-objection regardless of intended use (page 17)</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Review of responses to proposals 23 and 24 (page 17)</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">b. Languages – continued from last meeting and discussions on the list</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Leadership recap - based on discussion during the last call there seemed to be some support for refining the recommendations with respect to translations of country and territory names.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo4;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Leadership had put forward a proposal on the last call. Modifications were proposed on the mailing list. In particular, there was a suggestion to include transliterations in the proposal.
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">One member reiterated the concern that there is no single standard for transliteration.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo4;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">One perspective -- “UN and official languages” should be expanded to “UN and official and relevant languages.”
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Request for clarification - how do you determine whether a language is relevant? From one perspective this concept seems imprecise.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo4;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">A member recalled previous discussion on the topic of languages and the different perspectives raised. What problem are we trying to solve from the 2012 round? What issues were caused by current provisions including reservation
of translations “in any language” of country and territory names? From this perspective, if we are to find compromise, we need to find a solution that is acceptable to all, including those not participating in WT5.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo4;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Concern raised that many countries do not have official languages.
</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo4;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">From one perspective, minority or regional languages not recognized by central governments should be considered. This is a political issue. From this perspective “UN and official and relevant languages” respects all language communities,
including those not officially recognized. </span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo4;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Suggestion that this is policy issue, but will require implementation from ICANN Org. From this perspective ICANN Org should make a list of relevant languages in each country based on facts and statistics. This is not a task for
the WT to complete. </span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo4;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">From one perspective, the problem we are trying to solve may not have been seen in practice, but could come up at any time if the rules remain in place as they were in 2012. No one knows if an application went through that was
in violation of the rules, because there is no finite list to use as reference. From this perspective, this uncertainty is a problem and a more practical solution is needed. Is it the role of ICANN to adopt standards that are stricter than the national governments
that are not protecting/recognizing minority languages discussed previously?</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo4;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">From one perspective, language is a sensitive issue and an important way in which groups of people identify themselves.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo4;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Leadership comment - is there another place in the technology space where there have been rules around language that we can leverage for our work? How do we apply these lessons in a practical way?</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo4;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Suggestion that the geo names panel could assist with identifying whether a proposed string corresponds to the translation of a country or territory name. This role for the panel could create more certainty for applicants.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo4;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">One WT member raised concern about standing to file objections with respect to this topic.
</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo4;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">From one perspective, the languages issue should not be left to the authority of the advisory panel.
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Staff note - there is a Wikipedia page that lists official languages of countries, as well as regional and minority languages. This indicates that may be possible to create a finite list using a set of rules to define what is
included and excluded. Staff is not suggesting to use the list on Wikipedia, but it suggests referencing the page to show that it is possible to compile a list. See:
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_official_languages_by_country_and_territory">
<span style="color:#1155CC">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_official_languages_by_country_and_territory</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo4;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Question repeated - what is the problem we are trying to solve from the 2012 round? Suggestion from one member that there could be evidence from the Geo Names Panel of any possible problems from the 2012 round.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo4;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Leadership recap - where do we stand with the tracking document at the close of the call? - review of closed and open items. No additional comments received. Tracking document will be posted on the wiki with archived older versions
of the document.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">c. Refining Processes</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Not covered on this call.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">AOB - ICANN65</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Sessions will take place in the morning of Monday 24 June from 9:00 to 12:00 local time.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo6;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">First session will be on validating the outcomes so far for WT5 and taking temperature on preliminary recommendations, as well as identifying outstanding issues.
</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo6;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Additional time will be devoted to discussing the outstanding issues. The goal is to focus on three topics (to be identified in the first session).</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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