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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Greg, all,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The specific example of São Tomé is as we understand, a capital city. São Tomé translated to English for instance is Saint Thomas. Converting São Tomé to a DNS label would result in this punycode label: xn--so tom-3ta7c. Transposing the accented and diacritic characters to generate Sao Tome is neither a translation nor a conversion to a DNS label and is potentially something different? To the extent this group wants to move forward with this “something different,” the conversation may benefit from considering additional details and criteria (e.g., is it limited to Latin scripts, is there a specific set of characters that will be converted and if so, to what characters, are there exceptions, etc.). From the staff perspective, it might be helpful to try and better define the problem being mitigated and to consider whether the scope of what is currently being proposed might have an impact beyond just geographic names.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>For completeness and in response to Greg’ message, there are two aspects to the lists Greg mentioned. <o:p></o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'>First, there is the finite set of certain Red Cross names to be protected: <a href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/igo-ingo/red-cross-identifiers-proposed-reservation-06aug18-en.pdf">https://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/igo-ingo/red-cross-identifiers-proposed-reservation-06aug18-en.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'>Subsequently, there is the conversion of those names into DNS labels, which is in draft form here: <a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/56136698/RedCrossNamesLabels_20190524.xlsx?version=1&modificationDate=1559231950000&api=v2">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/56136698/RedCrossNamesLabels_20190524.xlsx?version=1&modificationDate=1559231950000&api=v2</a><o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Best,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Steve<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com><br><b>Date: </b>Wednesday, July 17, 2019 at 11:49 AM<br><b>To: </b>"lists@christopherwilkinson.eu" <lists@christopherwilkinson.eu><br><b>Cc: </b>"gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - WT5 meeting - 17 July 2019 at 20:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I think this discussion is somewhat misplaced as a question of language(s). It seems to really be a question of defining the DNS equivalent of a protected term (the U-Label?).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>It would be helpful if staff could circulate the final list of Red Cross/Red Crescent protected names, which demonstrates how this was done in that context.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>It would also be helpful if we could try to identify the substance of this or any other discussion and avoid getting hung up on word choices alone.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Greg<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 7:57 AM <a href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</a> <<a href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Good afternoon: May I demur to the expression ASCII “root”. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>ASCII is a rather limited sub set of Latin characters, currently in use. It is NOT the ‘root' of anything.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Actually, I had thought that the early IDN implementations had incorporated all accented and diacritic Latin characters into the available character sets, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>and that it was no longer necessary to refer to transpositions or transliterations, etc., at all. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Except of course to the <span style='color:#4472C4'>the IDN version of the name (e.g. xn--so-tom-3ta7c).</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> Apparently I may have been wrong.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>CW<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 16 Jul 2019, at 22:05, Katrin Ohlmer | DOTZON GmbH <<a href="mailto:ohlmer@dotzon.com" target="_blank">ohlmer@dotzon.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dear All, dear Emily,<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>the Cons of our geoTLD proposal seem to be related to the initial wording, which suggested to use transliterations. But the new proposal relates to transpositions (“<span style='color:#4472C4'>The transposition of accented and diacritic characters….”).<span class=m8268395098273808508apple-converted-space> </span></span>Maybe the person who worded the Cons may want to react prior to our call and redraft?<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Kind regards,<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Katrin<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>DOTZON GmbH - digital identities for tomorrow<br><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.google.com_maps_search_Akazienstrasse-2B28-2B10823-2BBerlin-2BDeutschland-2B-2D-2BGermany-3Fentry-3Dgmail-26source-3Dg&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=UAy6fqdE7uFkRCc7uzN4yui8bwTtqofadZHiQEIO1vw&m=u5w8ucAmqTVDRbA7ktE-oA4NcObs25FEOYU2ARoXYS4&s=Z9WfLdeHZw9hobcL5xmbkrGlDxFbEapGJwBR--yt0t8&e=">Akazienstrasse 28 [google.com]</a><br><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.google.com_maps_search_Akazienstrasse-2B28-2B10823-2BBerlin-2BDeutschland-2B-2D-2BGermany-3Fentry-3Dgmail-26source-3Dg&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=UAy6fqdE7uFkRCc7uzN4yui8bwTtqofadZHiQEIO1vw&m=u5w8ucAmqTVDRbA7ktE-oA4NcObs25FEOYU2ARoXYS4&s=Z9WfLdeHZw9hobcL5xmbkrGlDxFbEapGJwBR--yt0t8&e=">10823 Berlin [google.com]</a><br><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.google.com_maps_search_Akazienstrasse-2B28-2B10823-2BBerlin-2BDeutschland-2B-2D-2BGermany-3Fentry-3Dgmail-26source-3Dg&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=UAy6fqdE7uFkRCc7uzN4yui8bwTtqofadZHiQEIO1vw&m=u5w8ucAmqTVDRbA7ktE-oA4NcObs25FEOYU2ARoXYS4&s=Z9WfLdeHZw9hobcL5xmbkrGlDxFbEapGJwBR--yt0t8&e=">Deutschland - Germany [google.com]</a><br>Tel: +49 30 49802722<br>Fax: +49 30 49802727<br>Mobile: +49 173 2019240<br><a href="mailto:ohlmer@dotzon.consulting" target="_blank">ohlmer@dotzon.consulting</a><br><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.dotzon.consulting_&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=UAy6fqdE7uFkRCc7uzN4yui8bwTtqofadZHiQEIO1vw&m=u5w8ucAmqTVDRbA7ktE-oA4NcObs25FEOYU2ARoXYS4&s=A-G60JzJqvfbXp1WciprCK6-UXkxqPgKvtBcIzM8YEE&e=" target="_blank">www.dotzon.consulting<span style='color:#954F72'> [dotzon.consulting]</span></a></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Besuchen Sie uns auf<span class=m8268395098273808508apple-converted-space> </span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__de.linkedin.com_company_dotzon-2Dgmbh&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=UAy6fqdE7uFkRCc7uzN4yui8bwTtqofadZHiQEIO1vw&m=u5w8ucAmqTVDRbA7ktE-oA4NcObs25FEOYU2ARoXYS4&s=prYwgG4frN6bflIJdwo82vzwyaU4KOijcDOlIZIxh-c&e=" target="_blank">LinkedIn<span style='color:#954F72'> [de.linkedin.com]</span></a>.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><br>DOTZON GmbH<br>Registergericht: Amtsgericht Berlin-Charlottenburg, HRB 118598<br>Geschäftsführer: Katrin Ohlmer<br>Sitz der Gesellschaft: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.google.com_maps_search_Akazienstrasse-2B28-2C-2B10823-2BBerlin-3Fentry-3Dgmail-26source-3Dg&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=UAy6fqdE7uFkRCc7uzN4yui8bwTtqofadZHiQEIO1vw&m=u5w8ucAmqTVDRbA7ktE-oA4NcObs25FEOYU2ARoXYS4&s=sgCnLGlfVNbM4MTgF68SNBB6AK8tfmQ9PsIfuZOpL9A&e=">Akazienstrasse 28, 10823 Berlin [google.com]</a></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Von:</b><span class=m8268395098273808508apple-converted-space> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org</a>><span class=m8268395098273808508apple-converted-space> </span><b>Im Auftrag von<span class=m8268395098273808508apple-converted-space> </span></b>Emily Barabas<br><b>Gesendet:</b><span class=m8268395098273808508apple-converted-space> </span>Dienstag, 16. Juli 2019 21:17<br><b>An:</b><span class=m8268395098273808508apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a><br><b>Betreff:</b><span class=m8268395098273808508apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Proposed Agenda - WT5 meeting - 17 July 2019 at 20:00 UTC<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dear all,<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Please note one addition in<span class=m8268395098273808508apple-converted-space> </span><span style='color:#4472C4'>blue</span><span class=m8268395098273808508apple-converted-space> </span>to the summary below for agenda item 2 reflecting additional input from Katrin.<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Kind regards,<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Emily<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>From:<span class=m8268395098273808508apple-converted-space> </span></span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Emily Barabas <<a href="mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org" target="_blank">emily.barabas@icann.org</a>><br><b>Date:<span class=m8268395098273808508apple-converted-space> </span></b>Tuesday, 16 July 2019 at 12:12<br><b>To:<span class=m8268395098273808508apple-converted-space> </span></b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject:<span class=m8268395098273808508apple-converted-space> </span></b>Proposed Agenda - WT5 meeting - 17 July 2019 at 20:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dear Work Track 5 members,<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Please find below the proposed agenda for the WT5 meeting tomorrow 17 July 2019 at 20:00 UTC:<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>1. Welcome/Agenda Review/SOI Updates<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>2. Languages/Translations (see additional information below)<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>3. Additional Categories of Terms (non-AGB Terms)<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>4. Substantive review of comments in response to Initial Report questions e1-e5.<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=m8268395098273808508msolistparagraph style='margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>We will reference the public comments summary document:<span class=m8268395098273808508apple-converted-space> </span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1rsyxCEBd6ax3Rb-5Fw1kms-5FE9n29XL1-5Flw3Yp9XQ4TeCY_edit-3Fts-3D5ce64d6d&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=UAy6fqdE7uFkRCc7uzN4yui8bwTtqofadZHiQEIO1vw&m=u5w8ucAmqTVDRbA7ktE-oA4NcObs25FEOYU2ARoXYS4&s=VCgt8TqeJE3YvVKkagxEGuRKa_MMjBCMDwBYI1D5dNE&e=" target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rsyxCEBd6ax3Rb_w1kms_E9n29XL1_lw3Yp9XQ4TeCY/edit?ts=5ce64d6d# [docs.google.com]</span></a>.<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=m8268395098273808508msolistparagraph style='margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>For reference, full text of comments is available at:<span class=m8268395098273808508apple-converted-space> </span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1WKSC-5FpPBviCnbHxW171ZIp4CzuhQXRCV1NR2ruagrxs_edit-23gid-3D543808477&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=UAy6fqdE7uFkRCc7uzN4yui8bwTtqofadZHiQEIO1vw&m=u5w8ucAmqTVDRbA7ktE-oA4NcObs25FEOYU2ARoXYS4&s=1o4BRxV2F3TYYcua3ppxZB1JPtofXbpUgl4D4EOQXEg&e=" target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WKSC_pPBviCnbHxW171ZIp4CzuhQXRCV1NR2ruagrxs/edit#gid=543808477 [docs.google.com]</span></a><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal>5. AOB<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>For agenda item 2, the leadership team has prepared the following summary of options discussed and welcomes further input to support reaching a conclusion on this issue.<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As a reminder:<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=m8268395098273808508msolistparagraph style='margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'>In the 2012 Applicant Guidebook, a string was considered unavailable if it was a translation<span class=m8268395098273808508apple-converted-space><b> </b></span><b>in any language</b><span class=m8268395098273808508apple-converted-space> </span>of the following categories of country and territory names: long-form name listed in the ISO 3166-1 standard; short-form name listed in the ISO 3166-1 standard; separable component of a country name designated on the “Separable Country Names List.”<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=m8268395098273808508msolistparagraph style='margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'>In the 2012 round, applicants were required to obtain letters of support or non-objection from the relevant governments or public authorities for “An application for any string that is a representation,<span class=m8268395098273808508apple-converted-space> </span><b>in any language</b>, of the capital city name of any country or territory listed in the ISO 3166-1 standard.”<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>WT5 has discussed the following proposal as an alternative to the “in any language” standard, and two possible additions. The tables below capture pros and cons mentioned for each option.<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Proposal: translations in UN and official languages</b><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Wingdings'>à</span> For those countries that have no official language, include “de-facto” official languages (a list would need to be identified for this)<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Wingdings'>à</span> Supplement with a curative mechanism that allows for objections in the case of commonly used languages<span style='color:white'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Possible addition 1: transliteration into ASCII and conversion to DNS labels</b><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#4472C4'>Proposed re-wording: The transposition of accented and diacritic characters in Latin-based scripts to their equivalent ASCII root. This would protect for example sao-tome as a DNS-Label of São Tomé along-side the IDN version of the name (xn--so-tom-3ta7c).</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td width=312 valign=top style='width:233.75pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Pros</b><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td><td width=312 valign=top style='width:233.75pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Cons</b><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td></tr><tr><td width=312 valign=top style='width:233.75pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>From one perspective, this allows names such as Den Haag or São Tomé to be protected with denhaag/den-hag or sao-tome/saotome.<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td><td width=312 valign=top style='width:233.75pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>From one perspective, ASCII is not a language but<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>an encoding of a set of (alphabetic) glyphs so transliterating into ASCII doesn't make sense.<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td></tr><tr><td width=312 valign=top style='width:233.75pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>From one perspective, this can be a limited and clearly defined list.<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td><td width=312 valign=top style='width:233.75pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>From one perspective, for the same source language one can easily have different transliterated forms depending on the target language. This provision may cause confusion and uncertainty because there is a lack of standardization for transliteration.<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td></tr></table><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:white'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Possible addition 2: languages spoken by X% of people in the country/territory/capital city (to represent relevant national, regional and community languages)</b><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td width=312 valign=top style='width:233.75pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Pros</b><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td><td width=312 valign=top style='width:233.75pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Cons</b><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td></tr><tr><td width=312 valign=top style='width:233.75pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>From one perspective, some communities and groups strongly identify with translations of names in non-official languages and this proposal would offer protection for names translated into those languages.<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td><td width=312 valign=top style='width:233.75pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>From one perspective, there is no standard definition of relevant national, regional and community languages and no existing list from which to draw. The term would have to be clearly defined so that it can be effectively implemented.<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td></tr><tr><td width=312 valign=top style='width:233.75pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>From one perspective, it should be possible to create a list of relevant national, regional and community languages in implementation, especially if the group provides a definition to use. ICANN Org or the Geographic Names Panel should be able to create definitions.<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td><td width=312 valign=top style='width:233.75pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>From one perspective, it is unclear if there is an official, objective data source available that can be used in implementation.<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td></tr></table><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:white'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Kind regards,<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Emily<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Emily Barabas<span class=m8268395098273808508apple-converted-space> </span></b>| Policy Manager<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>ICANN</b><span class=m8268395098273808508apple-converted-space> </span>| Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org" target="_blank">Email: emily.barabas@icann.org</a> | Phone: +31 (0)6 84507976<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica'>_______________________________________________<br>Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" target="_blank">Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_privacy_policy&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=UAy6fqdE7uFkRCc7uzN4yui8bwTtqofadZHiQEIO1vw&m=u5w8ucAmqTVDRbA7ktE-oA4NcObs25FEOYU2ARoXYS4&s=Ty1HoZoAlcng4-PKel89eqj-LujngCnFppujCz7Ijec&e=" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy [icann.org]</a>) and the website Terms of Service (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_privacy_tos&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=UAy6fqdE7uFkRCc7uzN4yui8bwTtqofadZHiQEIO1vw&m=u5w8ucAmqTVDRbA7ktE-oA4NcObs25FEOYU2ARoXYS4&s=0JC8ZZiilbyJrX6X9XyYh8VxgzwdZezjXN32lj1GdzQ&e=" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos [icann.org]</a>). 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