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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear Sophie,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">a quick observation to your point „in many cases the brand owner will be genuinely unaware of the existence a city with the matching
name“:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Quite a lot of brand names derive form the location where the company is located at, in Berlin we have among others Berliner Pilsener,
Berliner Luft, Berliner Zeitung, Berliner Sparkasse. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">In addition quite a number of brands wish to be associated with an image of a certain geography. We even had a prominent example
in the previous application round - Patagonia. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Katrin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">DOTZON GmbH - digital identities for tomorrow<br>
Akazienstrasse 28<br>
10823 Berlin<br>
Deutschland - Germany<br>
Tel: +49 30 49802722<br>
Fax: +49 30 49802727<br>
Mobile: +49 173 2019240<br>
<a href="mailto:ohlmer@dotzon.consulting">ohlmer@dotzon.consulting</a><br>
<a href="http://www.dotzon.consulting/">www.dotzon.consulting</a></span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Besuchen Sie uns auf
<a href="https://de.linkedin.com/company/dotzon-gmbh">LinkedIn</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><br>
DOTZON GmbH<br>
Registergericht: Amtsgericht Berlin-Charlottenburg, HRB 118598<br>
Geschäftsführer: Katrin Ohlmer<br>
Sitz der Gesellschaft: Akazienstrasse 28, 10823 Berlin</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org>
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Sophie Hey<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 27. August 2019 13:33<br>
<b>An:</b> Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net>; alexander@schubert.berlin; gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Post call | New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 5 – Geographic Names at the Top Level - call | Wednesday, 21 August 2019 at 05:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">To respond further to the concerns that have been raised about the text I had proposed on non-capital city names (which I am repeating
below, incorporating tweaks from Nick Wenban-Smith and Kristine for convenience since there have been so many emails on this WT5 list over the last few days). This text targets instances where an applicant is applying for a dotBrand and quite conceivably does
not know about a non-capital city somewhere in the world that happens to match their brand. The reason why I did not propose language where an applicant would need to state that they do not intend to operate the TLD in connection to a city (as Justine has
suggested), would be because in many cases the brand owner will be genuinely unaware of the existence a city with the matching name. To my mind, making a statement that you would not use a TLD for purposes associated with the city name makes no sense if such
a city does not exist, or you do not know it exists. The same reasoning is why the AGB 2012 language refers to the applicant having made “statements within the application that the applicant will use the TLD primarily for purposes associated with the city
name”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I would also like to point out that it is not just governments or geoTLD operators concerned about nefarious actors submitting applications to be paid off to withdraw
an application: this is a concern shared by many other potential applicants, including dotBrands. Further, dotBrand applicants share the same concern about having a connection to their brand misrepresented.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">To reiterate, this language does not create any priority for any type of applicant or change the status quo. It is not intended to re-open substantive discussions
on what a city is or when a letter of support/non-objection is required. Rather, it is intended to clarify one particular circumstance which would be a “non-geographic purpose”, which is already encompassed under the existing AGB language, and provide certainty
for dotBrand applicants whose brand may also match a non-capital city name(s) somewhere in the world. There were concerns raised in the public comment period about the clarity of the language in this provision, and my proposed language is only intended to
respond to these concerns.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">2. An application for a city name, where the applicant declares that it intends to use the gTLD for purposes associated with the city name.
</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">City names present challenges because city names may also be generic terms or brand names, and in many cases city names are not unique. Unlike other types of geographic
names, there are no established lists that can be used as objective references in the evaluation process. Thus, city names are not universally protected. However, the process does provide a means for cities and applicants to work together where desired.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">An application for a city name will be subject to the geographic names requirements (i.e., will require documentation of support or non-objection from the relevant
governments or public authorities) if:</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">It is clear from applicant statements within the application that the applicant will use the TLD primarily for
purposes associated with the city name. </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#4472C4">For the avoidance of doubt, if an applicant declares in their application that they will operate the TLD
</span><u><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:red">exclusively</span></u><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:red">
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#4472C4">as a dotBrand, then this is not a use of the TLD for “purposes associated with the city name”;</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">
</span><u><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#385723">and</span></u><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The applied-for string is a city name as listed on official city documents.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Sophie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Sophie Hey<br>
</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Policy Advisor<br>
<b>Valideus</b><br>
D: +44 (0) 20 7421 8252<br>
E: <a href="mailto:sophie.hey@valideus.com"><span style="color:#0563C1">sophie.hey@valideus.com</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Marita Moll<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 25 August 2019 17:46<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin">alexander@schubert.berlin</a>;
<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Post call | New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 5 – Geographic Names at the Top Level - call | Wednesday, 21 August 2019 at 05:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB">Hi Alexander. Thanks for taking the time to provide these very well laid out examples. As you explain it, it is clear that the suggested wording could have very undesirable consequences for some cities. I would oppose the suggested wording
and stick with the currant AGB wording.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB">Marita Moll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">On 8/25/2019 8:42 AM, Alexander Schubert wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi,</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks for the observation. Let’s speak “openly”:<br>
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Obviously the “brand consultants” fear that an application for a brand name that is identical to a city name could be seen as intended “use (of) the TLD primarily for purposes associated with the city name” ……. because after all the brand name and city name
are IDENTICAL.<br>
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And I think herein we find the ingenuity of the current policy version! Let me explain with an example (an example that hinges as Paris is a CAPITAL, AND already delegated, but I think it may serve as example anyways):<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Paris in France has invested an INSANE amount of time (over two millennia to be exact), energy, dedication and over one
hundred of generation’s hard work (after all the beautiful Paris had to be BUILT by somebody) to create one of the most iconic brands of all times: PARIS. The city branding of Paris has yielded to the number THREE of most visited cities on the planet: Only
Bangkok and London receive more visitors annually (per 2018 statistics). </span>
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Obviously this invited entities all over the world to piggyback on the fame of the city brand: which generally in most of the cases is GOOD for the city: as it makes it even MORE famous. You will only get copied if you are really special.<br>
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One example being “<b>PARIS</b>” (LAS VEGAS). <br>
See their logo here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Las_Vegas#/media/<a href="File://Paris_Las_Vegas_Logo.svg">File:Paris_Las_Vegas_Logo.svg</a><br>
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Again: this is a rough example, please do not throw around with your expertise and tell me (“uhh, but their TM is PARIS LAS VEGAS” and not “PARIS”. Yeah, I know: I did an USPTO search of course).<br>
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The parent company of PARIS (Las Vegas) (CAESARS) is literally DROWNING in cash. They have US $25 BILLION in assets. If we go down to a meekly US $25k application fee: they would be almost FORCED to try trademarking “paris” (again: I know that .paris is delegated
AND a capital – this is an EXAMPLE).<br>
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So IF the Las Vegas “PARIS” casino would apply for “.paris” – it would be OBVIOUS that they would use their domain names in connection with their brand; and their brand is 100% based on ( and aimed at) the city of Paris in France! The logo even contains the
Tour Eiffel, and most of us will have been in the Paris casino in person: The casino sports a HUGE copy of the Tour Eiffel.
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Now in THAT case it would be literally IMPOSSIBLE to claim that the intended use is NOT primarily connected for purposes associated with the city name – because that’s all the brand DOES: Creating as much association with Paris (France) as possible! “Free-riding”
doesn’t even START to describe what they do. Legal! Even partly helpful for the City of Paris as it shows the might of their brand that they have established within 200 generations – but FREE-RIDING nonetheless.
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And I am so terrible sorry: But if “.paris” wasn’t already delegated and not protected through the “capital city provisions” of the AGB: THIS would be EXACTLY a case where the brand would use the TLD for purposes associated with the CITY NAME (Paris, France).
Hence it SHOULD go and get the approval of the Paris city government. And guess what their answer would be? Well. Think “Greenland”.<br>
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</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">To also provide an opposite example (and in reality most if not ALL real life cases will be like this one):<br>
Imagine a brand “IBM”. Imagine a city “Ibm” somewhere in the Middle East. Small city of 25,000 people – no industry, city-GDP of almost zero. In SUCH a case “International Business Machines Corporation” (IBM) clearly has NOT “targeted” the city, or is trying
to piggy-back (free-ride) on its reputation. So in such case they would NOT have to acquire a letter of non-objection.<br>
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So the current wording of AGB §2.2.1.4.2. is very much in the spirit of ICANN’S mission. If we were to add the suggested language we would create loopholes, extra rights that weren’t existing, and generally violate the spirit of the application process. The
circumstance that you are a “brand” doesn’t justify the establishment of any broad-sweeping exonerations. I can imagine why the brand-lobby would LOVE this extra provision: but outside of the brand cloud nobody profits from it.<br>
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Thank you,<br>
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Alexander<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Justine Chew<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Samstag, 24. August 2019 10:44<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Post call | New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 5 – Geographic Names at the Top Level - call | Wednesday, 21 August 2019 at 05:00 UTC</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The "loophole" which Alexander brings up aside and focusing squarely on Sophie's amended proposed text ....<br>
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I still don't see the usefulness in adding the amended proposed text. It may be only me perhaps, but I am concerned by implications to the notion of excluding a key conditional requirement on applicants for strings matching non-capital city names
<b><u>by mere inference</u></b>. Simply put, is it really that difficult for an applicant to declare outright in their application that they intend to operate the TLD exclusively as a dotBrand
<b><u>and that they will not use the TLD primarily for purposes associated with the city name</u></b>? </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmaildefault"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Opened to further enlightenment on this point,</span></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
Justine </span><span lang="EN-GB"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">On Sat, 24 Aug 2019 at 07:24, Alexander Schubert <<a href="mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin">alexander@schubert.berlin</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear Sophie,</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">You are asking me:</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><i><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6">“I am unclear on what additional rights or
</span></i></b><b><i><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#C00000">loopholes
</span></i></b><b><i><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6">would arise under this
</span></i></b><b><i><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#C00000">proposed language</span></i></b><b><i><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6">…..”</span></i></b><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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First let me please remark that the 2012 official AGB language was:</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><i><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6">“2.2.1.4.2 Geographic Names Requiring Government Support:</span></i></b><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><i><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6">………..<br>
An application for a city name will be subject to the</span></i></b><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><i><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6">geographic names requirements ……… if:</span></i></b><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><i><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6">(a) It is clear from applicant statements within the</span></i></b><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><i><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6">application that the applicant will use the TLD</span></i></b><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><i><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#C00000">primarily</span></i></b><b><i><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6"> for purposes associated with the city</span></i></b><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><i><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#2E75B6">name…”</span></i></b><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#C00000">PRIMARELY! </span></b><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">So if you apply for a “real brand” (one that is existing since a long time, is well known and in broad use in commerce) and declare the “intended use” to be associated WITH SAID BRAND – then it is BY DEFINITION NOT
“primarily for purposes associated with the city name”. YOU AS APPLICANT HAVE THAT UNDER CONTROL! You need to make a STATEMENT in your application: Do you wish to associate the use of the gTLD with your BRAND NAME – or with the CITY NAME? It’s written right
there in 2.2.1.4.2 – there is no room for any interpretation. YOU have to tell the geo panel what YOU intend. So do it and all will be fine. The geo-panel is the judge; they are not biased! They listen to YOUR statement!</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">But let me answering your question and explaining the loophole that your language would (in my mind) create:</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">We have to stop assuming that the next round(s) will be as disciplined as the 2012 round. By start of the next round a DECADE has gone by since the 1<sup>st</sup> round: and all kinds of shady fortune hunters will
try to make “quick bucks” in coming rounds. So here an example how the loophole that your language would (accidentally) create could be exploited (everybody please remember: we are talking about non-capital city names here):</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span><span lang="EN-GB">Some (shady) applicants for non-capital city names will want to avoid acquiring the requisite letter of non-objection from the relevant city Government (e.g. to avoid participation in a public call for tender by said city: and ALL
cities will have public tenders in 2021/2022 if there is any potential applicant)
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span><span lang="EN-GB">The (shady) applicant applies for a quick and cheap trade mark (e.g. in the Benelux; where expedited TMs are REGISTERED within DAYS – the opposition period starts THEREAFTER; but the TM is valid already! The TMCH is accepting it, too!)
Thus ALL requirements for a Spec 13 designation are met.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span><span lang="EN-GB">Then the shady applicant EXPLOITS your loophole: Because per your policy addition their application (if Spec 13 is invoked) would be EXCEMPTED from any scrutiny regarding the “intends to use the gTLD for purposes primarily associated
with the city name.” (note that “primarily” is part of 2.2.1.4.2 but not reflected in your language).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB">How would the shady applicant profit from it: why going this route? Just ONE potential scam scheme:<br>
Apply for a couple of large metropolises as (pseudo) “Spec 13 brand”. Do that for cities where you know the city has a public call for tender (an indicator that there are applicants in wait; “public tenders” are by definition “public”! Easy to spot!). Wait
for the reveal day: and offer the city applicant to withdraw your (Spec 13) application if he “pays up”: or else threaten to block their application indefinitely (how long “indefinitely” might be: ask the community applicants for .hotel: THEY WON CPE – and
are still blocked! In 2019!). Most city applicants would rather quickly shell out US$200k instead waiting 5 or more years. If the application floor goes down to US $50,000 – and we maintain 80% refund: your “cost” (as scammer) would be just a mere US 10k per
pop! So scammers “risk” US $10k to likely earn US $200k? Hey: We are INVITING these scams to happen! And I thought about it just for a few minutes.
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I say:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-GB">Generally Spec 13 should be GENERALLY INELIGIBLE for strings that match large cities (e.g. larger 250,000 people – the exact number subject to discussion)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-GB">Exception: the “brand” manages to get a letter of non-objection from the city government (permission for blocking the string to the general public!)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB">I want to be on record that city-communities are in the cross hairs of profiteers – that they are very vulnerable because the circumstance that a certain city
name is being applied for is (via public tender) very visible. And any and all loopholes that circumvent the necessity to acquire “letters of non-objection” are unnecessarily dangerous. City applicants are “sitting ducks”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB">Please excuse my fixation on “exploits” – but we already had exploits in the 2012 round: e.g. a number of applicants applied for the same string TWICE – one time as
community priority application, one time as standard application! A gross LOOPHOLE nobody thought about (and one that completely went against the policy spirit).
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB">Thanks,<br>
<br>
Alexander<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt"> Sophie Hey [mailto:<a href="mailto:sophie.hey@valideus.com" target="_blank">sophie.hey@valideus.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 23, 2019 1:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin">alexander@schubert.berlin</a>;
<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Post call | New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 5 – Geographic Names at the Top Level - call | Wednesday, 21 August 2019 at 05:00 UTC</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dear Alexander,</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I am proposing this language to improve the clarity of the provision for all potential applicants. I agree
that “purposes associated with the city name” does not include dotBrand applicants. However, in the public comment period, the United States Government, NCSG, and part of the ALAC, all expressed concerns about the wording in this provision. I am not looking
to re-open the intended use debate, rather highlight that there were concerns raised in the public comment period about the wording of this provision.
</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I am unclear on what additional rights or loopholes would arise under this proposed language, which only
identifies one clear purpose that would not be “a purpose associated with the city name”.
</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Hope this helps,</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Sophie</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Sophie Hey<br>
</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Policy Advisor<br>
<b>Valideus</b><br>
D: +44 (0) 20 7421 8252<br>
E: <a href="mailto:sophie.hey@valideus.com" target="_blank">sophie.hey@valideus.com</a></span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#769E91">Com Laude, Demys and Valideus August Bank Holiday Opening Hours</span></b><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The UK offices of Com Laude Group will be closed for a UK public holiday on Monday 26 August 2019, reopening
on Tuesday 27 August 2019. If you have an urgent matter for the Valideus team, please email
<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@valideus.com" target="_blank">jeff.neuman@valideus.com</a>, and cc your client manager.
</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt"> Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alexander Schubert<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 22 August 2019 15:05<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Post call | New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 5 – Geographic Names at the Top Level - call | Wednesday, 21 August 2019 at 05:00 UTC</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Dear Sophie,<br>
<br>
The question arises: If a “real brand” is qualifying for Spec 13 on its own merits – why having to add such “general clause”? Could you provide an example of “harm” for “brands” if such clause would not exist? What do you try to “fix”? Each “fix” that creates
an “automatic right” will be source for a “loophole”.<br>
<br>
Long story short:<br>
Your suggestion makes sense for real brands – but real brands qualify anyway by virtue of intended use – so your rule will only serve as loophole for tricksters; which we did ONLY not see in 2012 because nobody foresaw the success of city gTLDs (or rather:
just a few where believers). </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br>
Thanks,</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br>
Alexander</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt"> Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 [<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sophie Hey<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Mittwoch, 21. August 2019 14:52<br>
<b>To:</b> Andrea Glandon <<a href="mailto:andrea.glandon@icann.org" target="_blank">andrea.glandon@icann.org</a>>;
<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Post call | New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 5 – Geographic Names at the Top Level - call | Wednesday, 21 August 2019 at 05:00 UTC</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dear all,</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Following the discussion on non-capital city names on this call and the support and concerns expressed
on additional language, I would like to suggest the following as alternative text to AGB 2.2.1.4.2 part 2. I have also included the entirety of part 2 for greater clarity. The blue text is the proposed addition, the black is what is currently in the AGB:</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">2. An application for a city name, where the applicant declares that it intends to use the gTLD for purposes
associated with the city name. </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">City names present challenges because city names may also be generic terms or brand names, and in many
cases city names are not unique. Unlike other types of geographic names, there are no established lists that can be used as objective references in the evaluation process. Thus, city names are not universally protected. However, the process does provide a
means for cities and applicants to work together where desired.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">An application for a city name will be subject to the geographic names requirements (i.e., will require
documentation of support or non-objection from the relevant governments or public authorities) if:</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt;text-align:justify">
<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(a)</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">It is clear from applicant statements within the application that the applicant will use the TLD primarily for purposes associated with the city name.
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#4472C4">For the avoidance of doubt, if an applicant declares in their application that they will operate the TLD as a dotBrand, then this is not a use of the TLD for “purposes
associated with the city name”;</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt;text-align:justify">
<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(b)</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The applied-for string is a city name as listed on official city documents.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The previous blue language read as follows:
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#4472C4">For the avoidance of doubt, where the applicant states in their application that they intend to use the TLD as a .Brand (intend to have Specification 13 in their
Registry Agreement) it will be taken that the TLD will not be used primarily for purposes associated with the city name.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Looking forward to hearing everyone’s thoughts on this.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Kind regards,</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Sophie Hey<br>
</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Policy Advisor<br>
<b>Valideus</b><br>
D: +44 (0) 20 7421 8252<br>
E: <a href="mailto:sophie.hey@valideus.com" target="_blank">sophie.hey@valideus.com</a></span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#769E91">Com Laude, Demys and Valideus August Bank Holiday Opening Hours</span></b><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The UK offices of Com Laude Group will be closed for a UK public holiday on Monday 26 August 2019, reopening
on Tuesday 27 August 2019. If you have an urgent matter for the Valideus team, please email
<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@valideus.com" target="_blank">jeff.neuman@valideus.com</a>, and cc your client manager.
</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt"> Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrea Glandon<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 21 August 2019 07:28<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Post call | New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Sub Team – Track 5 – Geographic Names at the Top Level - call | Wednesday, 21 August 2019 at 05:00 UTC</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dear all,</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">All recordings for the<span class="gmail-m7220972613500803340gmail-m7780742411603917752apple-converted-space"> </span>New<span class="gmail-m7220972613500803340gmail-m7780742411603917752apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="gmail-m7220972613500803340gmail-m7780742411603917752spelle">gTLD</span><span class="gmail-m7220972613500803340gmail-m7780742411603917752apple-converted-space"> </span>Subsequent
Procedures Sub Team – Track 5 – Geographic Names at the Top Level -<span class="gmail-m7220972613500803340gmail-m7780742411603917752apple-converted-space"> call </span>held<span class="gmail-m7220972613500803340gmail-m7780742411603917752apple-converted-space"> </span>on<span class="gmail-m7220972613500803340gmail-m7780742411603917752apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday,<span class="gmail-m7220972613500803340gmail-m7780742411603917752apple-converted-space"> </span>21
August 2019 at 14:00 UTC<span class="gmail-m7220972613500803340gmail-m7780742411603917752apple-converted-space"> </span>can be found<span class="gmail-m7220972613500803340gmail-m7780742411603917752apple-converted-space"> </span>on the<span class="gmail-m7220972613500803340gmail-m7780742411603917752apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/faujBg" target="_blank">agenda
wiki page </a>(attendance<span class="gmail-m7220972613500803340gmail-m7780742411603917752apple-converted-space"> </span>included)<span class="gmail-m7220972613500803340gmail-m7780742411603917752apple-converted-space"> </span>and the<span class="gmail-m7220972613500803340gmail-m7780742411603917752apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_group-2Dactivities_calendar&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PDd_FX3f4MVgkEIi9GHvVoUhbecsvLhgsyXrxgtbL10DTBs0i1jYiBM_uTSDzgqG&m=lhHF0M6JaIYeLBnC3Q9bqu2sZWPv1nLAgZnVMGCKrHU&s=Tzxf9LTtBSdrMY8pcfoDex94Y46jW4hgjQNgWe51VqU&e=" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954F72">GNSO
Master calendar<span class="gmail-m7220972613500803340gmail-m7780742411603917752apple-converted-space"> </span></span></a>.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Attendance (please let me know if your name has been left off the<span class="gmail-m7220972613500803340gmail-m7780742411603917752apple-converted-space"> </span>attendance list)</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo6">
<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Audio<span class="gmail-m7220972613500803340gmail-m7780742411603917752apple-converted-space"> </span>recording</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo6">
<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Zoom chat archive</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo6">
<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Zoom recording (including audio, visual, rough transcript)</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo6">
<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Transcript</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">For additional information, you may consult the<span class="gmail-m7220972613500803340gmail-m7780742411603917752apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954F72">mailing
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