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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Sophie,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">thanks fort he new proposal. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">However, the issue with singling out one category of applications remains and will lead to more confusion than clarity. Also, the new proposal lacks the clarification I added with the definite list of cities. Further, negating that there
 are definite lists of cities seems to be inaccurate in light of the lists which have been proposed over time in the WG.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We do not support the proposal.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Katrin<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:DE">DOTZON GmbH - digital identities for tomorrow<br>
Akazienstrasse 28<br>
10823 Berlin<br>
Deutschland - Germany<br>
Tel: +49 30 49802722<br>
Fax: +49 30 49802727<br>
Mobile: +49 173 2019240<br>
<a href="mailto:ohlmer@dotzon.consulting"><span style="color:blue">ohlmer@dotzon.consulting</span></a><br>
<a href="http://www.dotzon.consulting/"><span style="color:blue">www.dotzon.consulting</span></a></span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:DE">Besuchen Sie uns auf
<a href="https://de.linkedin.com/company/dotzon-gmbh"><span style="color:blue">LinkedIn</span></a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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DOTZON GmbH<br>
Registergericht: Amtsgericht Berlin-Charlottenburg, HRB 118598<br>
Geschäftsführer: Katrin Ohlmer<br>
Sitz der Gesellschaft: Akazienstrasse 28, 10823 Berlin</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-fareast-language:DE">Von:</span></b><span style="mso-fareast-language:DE"> Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org>
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Sophie Hey<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 28. August 2019 17:39<br>
<b>An:</b> gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Follow up on non-capital city names<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Just to follow up on the text which I think could combine the two proposals on non-capital city names. The text additional to the 2012 AGB is in blue.
 I have incorporated the list from Katrin’s proposal into the preamble and the national legislation reference remains in the body of the provision.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Hoping we can come to agreement on this!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Sophie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">2. An application for a city name, where the applicant declares that it intends to use the gTLD for purposes associated with the city name.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">City names present challenges because city names may also be generic terms or brand names, and in many cases city names are not unique. Unlike other types of geographic
 names, there are no established lists that can be used as objective references in the evaluation process.
<span style="color:#4472C4">However, applicants may find it useful to review the 2017 UN Demographic Yearbook Table 8 to find a list of city names with more than 100,000 inhabitants as a reference point
<a href="https://unstats.un.org/unsd/demographic-social/products/dyb/documents/dyb2017/table08.pdf">
<span style="color:#4472C4">https://unstats.un.org/unsd/</span></a><a href="https://unstats.un.org/unsd/demographic-social/products/dyb/documents/dyb2017/table08.pdf"><span style="color:#4472C4">demographic-social</span></a><a href="https://unstats.un.org/unsd/demographic-social/products/dyb/documents/dyb2017/table08.pdf"><span style="color:#4472C4">/products/dyb/documents/dyb2017/table08.pdf</span></a></span>.
 Thus, city names are not universally protected. However, the process does provide a means for cities and applicants to work together where desired.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">An application for a city name will be subject to the geographic names requirements (i.e., will require documentation of support or non-objection from the relevant
 governments or public authorities) if:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="1" type="a">
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<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">It is clear from applicant statements within the application that the applicant will use the TLD primarily for purposes associated with the city name.
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">For the avoidance of doubt, if an applicant declares in their application that they will operate the TLD exclusively as a dotBrand, then this is not a use of the TLD for “purposes
 associated with the city name”</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">; and<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#4472C4;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">
<span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">The applied</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">-for string is
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">an exact match of
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">a city name as listed on official city documents
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">or as set out in national legislation designating the place as a city.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Sophie Hey<br>
</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Policy Advisor<br>
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