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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dar Sophie,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">thank you for your feedback. Can you propose a list which does not face the potential issues you voiced? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Katrin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org>
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Sophie Hey<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 30. August 2019 15:38<br>
<b>An:</b> gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Topic Follow-Up - Non-Capital City Names<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">I would just like to raise some concerns about proposal 2.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">First, the statement that “established lists can be used as objective references in the evaluation process”. The text currently states in the AGB “</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Unlike
other types of geographic names, there are no established lists that can be used as objective references in the evaluation process”. As I understand it, the existing AGB text is not saying that there are “no lists”, but rather no lists that can be used as
an objective reference for evaluation purposes. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Second, my concern with the UN Demographic Yearbook list is that it is not intended to provide a comprehensive list of all cities. Rather, it is part of a publication
setting out global statistics. This means that there are limitations on how the information in the publication (including Table 8) can be used. For example, the localities listed are not necessarily the actual name of the locality as where the names are not
in the Roman alphabet, the names have been “romanized”. Further, to be included in the list, a locality must have a population more than 100,000 or be a capital city. While the list does recognise the different meaning of “city” in different countries and
territories, the list does not distinguish which localities are cities, urban agglomerations, municipalities or another type of locality. This is in contrast to 2.2.1.4.2 part 2 referring to “non-capital cities”.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Given these factors, I am not comfortable including the UN Demographic Yearbook as anything more than a reference point for potential applicants. </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Sophie Hey<br>
</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Policy Advisor<br>
<b>Valideus</b><br>
D: +44 (0) 20 7421 8252<br>
E: <a href="mailto:sophie.hey@valideus.com">sophie.hey@valideus.com</a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Emily Barabas<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 30 August 2019 07:11<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Topic Follow-Up - Non-Capital City Names<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> Sent on behalf of the Work Track 5 Co-Leaders</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear Work Track 5 members,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">This email follows up on agenda item 4 covered on this week’s WT5 call: Closure of Discussion on Non-Capital City Names (agenda, notes, recording and slides available here:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/f6ujBg" title="https://community.icann.org/x/f6ujBg"><span style="color:#954F72">https://community.icann.org/x/f6ujBg</span></a>).
This is a topic that has been discussed extensively over the last two years with many areas in which members have divergent opinions. This week, the Work Track considered updated versions of two final proposals that have been discussed on the mailing list.
Both proposals offer what the Co-Leaders view as modest adjustments to the existing Applicant Guidebook text. Note that for proposal 2, the proposer has confirmed that the correct connector between sub-sections (a) and (b) is “AND.” See attached for reference.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">If they have not already done so, WT members are encouraged to respond on-list about whether or not they believe they can support or accept the attached proposals. At this point, wordsmithing/redlining
is strongly discouraged, especially if suggested edits fundamentally change the nature of the proposal. If the group comes to general agreement on one of the proposals, minor adjustments can be made to the text before finalizing recommendations if the group
agrees. </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Our discussion of non-capital city names at this stage are narrowly focused. Please do not re-open broad debates, re-state arguments already discussed, bring forward new proposals, or request
new data/research. There has been ample opportunity over the last two years for the Work Track to discuss these issues and the Work Track is concluding its work. The task now is to see if the Work Track can reach agreement on these final proposals before closing
discussion. As a reminder, if the Work Track cannot come to an agreement on a change to the 2012 Applicant Guidebook provisions, the status quo will remain.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">We look forward to discussing your input on next week’s call and closing this discussion.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Kind regards,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">WT5 Co-Leaders<br>
Olga Cavalli, Annebeth Lange, <span style="background:white">Javier Rúa-Jovet</span>, Martin Sutton</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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