<div dir="ltr">Done, thanks for the further explanation Martin!<div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">Mike Rodenbaugh</div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">RODENBAUGH LAW</div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">tel/fax:  +1.415.738.8087</div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><a href="http://rodenbaugh.law" target="_blank">http://rodenbaugh.law</a> </div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 1:37 PM Martin Sutton <<a href="mailto:martin@brandregistrygroup.org">martin@brandregistrygroup.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">



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On behalf of the WT5 co-leads, I wanted to reiterate the purpose of the straw poll in relation to the group's discussion around the specific suggestion for adjectival forms. </div>
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We have had numerous discussions which helped develop and progress a focused proposal which recently appeared to be gaining acceptance from different (and often opposing) parts of WT5. We note, however, that this was over a number of weeks when the participation
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As a result, the co-leads decided to conduct a straw-poll to help gauge whether there was interest amongst the whole WT5 to pursue this any further.  This would allow those that had not been able to join last week's meeting and other recent calls to have a
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 9:32 AM Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>Paul has summed up my concerns on this poll as well.  Is the plan to just keep asking the question until we get a different answer?  Because that is what it looks like now.
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<span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I don’t understand the purpose of this straw poll.  It was pretty clear on our last call that there was no stomach for any further expansion of geo term special rights.  While I did try find a way forward,
 there were just too many slippery slope tack-ons and too many voices, including the USG’s (representing 330 million people) indicating no interest.  So, what is the purpose of the poll?  Is it meant to revive the conversation?  We were told on the call that
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<span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Also, there are no qualifications within the poll.  If it said “can you accept this proposal and will stop pushing for other lists, etc.” and/or “can you accept this proposal and agree not tack-on slippery
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<b><span style="font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt"><span class="gmail-m_8938924366730904145gmail-m_3776153439657914810Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5-bounces@icann.org</a>><span class="gmail-m_8938924366730904145gmail-m_3776153439657914810Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="gmail-m_8938924366730904145gmail-m_3776153439657914810Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, September 6, 2019 5:06 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="gmail-m_8938924366730904145gmail-m_3776153439657914810Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Please respond - straw poll on Early Reveal Process for Adjectival Form of Country Names - deadline Tuesday 10 September at 14:00 UTC<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">Sent on behalf of the WT5 Co-Leaders:<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">On the call yesterday, we discussed whether it might be possible to come to an agreement to make a recommendation regarding an Early Reveal Process for Adjectival Form of Country Names. To gather input from all members,
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<span style="font-size:11pt">Please take a moment to respond here:<span class="gmail-m_8938924366730904145gmail-m_3776153439657914810Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/R77ZLQK" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/R77ZLQK</a>.<span class="gmail-m_8938924366730904145gmail-m_3776153439657914810Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>Please
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