[Gnso-newgtld-wg] Proposed agenda - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 8 October 2018 at 15:00 UTC

Alan Greenberg alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Mon Oct 8 14:54:47 UTC 2018


Jeff, unfortunately this meeting coincides with 
an ICANN update on GDPR and related subjects so I will miss the first hour.

I agree with Jim. We may need a delay, all the 
more so because this is a holiday weekend for some.

Alan

At 08/10/2018 09:39 AM, Jeff Neuman wrote:

>All,
>
>We can discuss further on our call in a few 
>hours, but the release of a Supplemental Initial 
>Report does not in any way mean that additional 
>discussions cannot take place about any of the 
>options.  We are working on getting some 
>additional data and have reached out to several 
>of the providers of private auction services to get some data (if possible).
>
>One of the providers has responded so far 
>indicating a willingness to discuss certain 
>ideas for improvements that they have, but we 
>are need to work out scheduling 
>issues.  Although they are willing to discuss 
>ideas for improvements, they have not indicated 
>that they are at liberty to disclose any data due to confidentiality concerns.
>
>Again, we do not see a reason at this point to 
>hold up the comment period on the Supplemental 
>Initial Report.  Remember, one of the purposes 
>of releasing the Supplemental Initial Report is 
>to try and get additional data points.
>
>Best regards,
>
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>From: Gnso-newgtld-wg 
><gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces at icann.org> On Behalf Of Justine Chew
>Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2018 9:07 AM
>To: jim at galwaysg.com; gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org
>Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Proposed agenda - 
>New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 8 October 2018 at 15:00 UTC
>
>I don't disagree with Jim.
>
>In fact, spending a bit more time to flesh out 
>Sarah's "draw" mechanism could prove useful, and 
>as may getting feedback from ICANN Legal on 
>whether there might be impediments to prohibiting non-ICANN private auctions.
>
>Justine Chew
>-----
>
>On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 at 19:34, Jim Prendergast 
><<mailto:jim at galwaysg.com>jim at galwaysg.com> wrote:
>Cheryl and Jeff
>
>I understand from the last call that it’s your 
>intent to wrap up discussion on the supplemental 
>interim report on Monday’s call and finalize 
>the report soon thereafter.  While that timeline 
>made sense a week ago, I’m not so sure it does now.
>
>In the last week, there have been three 
>developments that I think warrant further deliberation:
>
>1) There has been renewed discussion around 
>contention resolution via auctions (private or 
>ICANN).  And it continues.  It’s brought more 
>voices (new and dormant) into the debate and as 
>a result we have more issues that are being 
>worked into the document.  This is a good thing 
>as we want to present as many options to the 
>community as possible.  The document is better because of that.
>2) The comment period on the initial report 
>closed and while I haven’t been through all of 
>them yet, I have seen a few instances where the 
>issue of auctions was raised.  For example:
>Some members of the RYSG and the ALAC said the 
>legality of private auctions should be discussed.
>The ICANN Board said that they had concerns 
>around private auctions and how they can be 
>reconciled with ICANN’s commitments and core 
>values.  I think we need to get more clarity from the Board on that.
>The IPC asked for a study on abuse of private 
>auctions to take place before it could make a full determination
>3) Related to the last bullet point, as part of 
>our deliberations, there was supposed to be 
>outreach to auction providers to determine if 
>there were additional instances of 
>irregularities.  We haven’t had an update on 
>that recently, but the results of that outreach 
>need to be in this report otherwise it is incomplete.
>
>We as a group would be remiss if we proceeded to 
>another public comment period without looking at 
>those comments and try to determine how they 
>should be reflected in this document before 
>us.  As many of us know, a lot of time, energy 
>and effort was put into those and for this group 
>to not even consider them in this document would send a terrible message.
>
>As you said when asking for liaisons, comments 
>from SGs and ACs hold more weight than 
>individual comments so we should give them such deference.
>
>I understand this might lead to delaying 
>releasing the interim till after Barcelona, but 
>the reality is no one outside this group will be 
>looking at it leading into and during the 
>meeting.  There is too much other material to 
>digest prepping for and during the meeting.
>
>Curious to hear what others think.
>
>Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>From: Gnso-newgtld-wg 
><<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces at icann.org>gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces at icann.org> 
>On Behalf Of Steve Chan
>Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 5:42 PM
>To: <mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org>gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org
>Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Proposed agenda - New 
>gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 8 October 2018 at 15:00 UTC
>
>Dear WG Members,
>
>Please find the proposed agenda for the New gTLD 
>Subsequent Procedures PDP WG meeting scheduled 
>for 8 October 2018 at 15:00 UTC, for 90 minutes.
>
>Agenda review/SOIs
>Supplemental Report: Review of sections 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, and 1.5 continued
>Planning for ICANN63
>AOB
>
>For agenda item 2, please find the latest draft, 
>which accepted all red-lined edits made prior to 
>the 2 October meeting (you can find that draft 
>here: 
><https://community.icann.org/x/4QirBQ>https://community.icann.org/x/4QirBQ). 
>As it was anticipated that changes would be 
>non-trivial, it was believed that accepting 
>red-lines prior to making new proposed edits 
>would improve the readability of this latest draft.
>
>For Item 3, we will further discuss plans for 
>the sessions scheduled for day 1 of ICANN63, 
>Saturday 20 October (see the published schedule 
>here: 
><https://63.schedule.icann.org/meetings>https://63.schedule.icann.org/meetings). 
>
>
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>Best,
>Steve 2
>
>
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