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<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">Michelle DeSmyter:Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group call held on Monday, 28 March 2016. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:If you do wish to speak during the call, please either dial into the audio bridge and give the operator the password NEW gTLD, OR click on the telephone icon at the top of the AC room to activate
your AC mics. Please remember to mute your phone and mics when not talking.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Harold Arcos:Hi Jeff, everyone</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:Welcome Harold!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kavouss Arasteh:Hi Julie</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kavouss Arasteh:Hi everybody</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Harold Arcos:Thanks Michelle, My apologies in advance because I have very slow bandwidth in my job.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jeff Neuman:Hello</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Theo Geurts:hello all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jeff Neuman:We will get started in a few minutes. Thanks to all for joining</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:Hi Kavouss and everyone!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Klaus Stoll:Hi All</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Hello, all.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Katrin Ohlmer| DOTZON:Hi ALl</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Khaled Koubaa:Hi everyone</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:@Avri: It is in the Adobe Connect room.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:The agenda</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael Flemming:Good evening</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Khaled Koubaa:re-agenda : I think the letter is more important to begin with </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):I'm on audio now. Apologies for running late. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:@Avri: Kavouss has his hand up -- re: the agenda.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:Hearing echo</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:sorry to be late.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Freida Tallon:hello everyone </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul McGrady:Tracks+1</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:Jeff, your Portuguese pronunciation of .hoteis failed evaluation. Sorry. ;-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Phil Buckingham:Welcome Kavouss </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:i do recommend the recording for all who missed the first meeting. worth listening to the exlpanation of tracks 1 & 2.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:One area of overlap between evaluations and objections is string similarity. There were both string similarity evaluations (like .unicom / .unicorn, .hotels/.hoteis) and string confusion objections (
.com / .ecom, .kid / .kids). </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):Good point, Rubens.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Chan:@Kavouss - the FInal Issue Report would have a non-exhaustive list of issues around string similarity. So that might be able to act as a starting point for the list you've asked about.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul McGrady:Agree that both the substance and the procedure need to be fixed.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Katrin Ohlmer| DOTZON:+1, Rubens. Also, the results for those two different mechanisms were not in-sync.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul McGrady:+1Jeff Thanks!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Phil Buckingham:Good point Alan . </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:An application would seem to indicate an "intent to use," even if it doesn't constitute use at the time of the application.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:The risk already exists, since some string confusion objects on singular x plural already prevailed in the 2012-round. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:good suggestion ALAN</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Donna Austin, Neustar:I thought it was a principle raised in the discussion group.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:we are still in clarification and have not decided anything</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kevin Kreuser:What if those that hold singular want plural, or what if a brand wants the plural of its own name? Absolute bar, or exceptions permitted? Thinking out loud. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:are we gettign lose to dicussing the solution space at the moment?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alan Greenberg:@Avri, yup</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kevin Kreuser:@Avri, yes. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jeff Neuman:thanks avri</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:Note that the charter for the RPM PDP does not include evaluation/string confusion/objection topics.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Khaled Koubaa:With all respect for all members we better go ahead with the list of subjects/issues and not spend the time in discussing only one</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):Thx, Mary. Great point.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Khaled Koubaa:This actually will be the role of each sub-group</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Thanks, Mary. That's interesting....</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:khaled, in alrge group like this one youa re right</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mike Rodenbaugh:IGO Names also in SCO</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:Kevin, one similar issue is IDN x ASCII. Some IDNs were blocked in 2012 like québec due to .quebec application. So those are also waiting for a policy allowing them to apply at a further procedure. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:@SteveC, @Greg - it did not seem appropriate to carve out a single type of objection procedure from this PDP to go to the RPM one, even if the phrase "rights protection mechanism" can generally be applied
to some of these processes. That's one reason why the RPM PDP charter is very explicit as to what is meant by "RPM" for purposes of that PDP.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Thanks, Mary. I see the point. At least we know that we are dealing with all objection procedures in this group.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:@Mike, you are right that IGO Names were foreseen in SCO, but I believe none triggered that rule, even ECO x .eco which was a possible SCO. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):I agree with that, Mary. Let's figure out how to address that, and sync with the RPM PDP closely. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> ken stubbs:We need to find a more effective methodology for reducing the time frames for the objection processes</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mike Rodenbaugh:@ Rubens, sorry I misspoke, IGO Names specifically address in in LRO, not SCO, and there was at least one LRO case</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Yes..., the two objection mechanisms via the IO in the last AG were the limited public interest objection and the community objection.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Akin-Awokoya Emmanuel:I would be interested in the data on the objections. And I think it would really help our projection and help us know what it is now</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:@Greg, @SteveC, yes, thanks. Having the liaison (as foreseen by the Charters for these two PDPs) betweeen the two WGs will help coordinate the discussions. Of course, if at the appropriate time either
WG sees the need to refer a topic to the other, that's always a possibility (to be coordinated with the GNSO Council as manager of the PDP).</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Both objection types had pretty specific criteria on why they could use the two objection mechamisms.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Terrible typing. Sorry.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Gangesh Varma:Does the applicant guidebook prescribe the limited parameters for a public interest objection?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):Thanks, Mary. I think this ties in with the Crocker letter, and time permitting, we will discuss on this call. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:@Gangesh: If I recall correctly, yes.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Gangesh Varma:@Amr: Thanks. Since that is the case then we might want to distinguish ihis debate from the larger public interest/GPI discussions witihn icann. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:AG downloadable here: <a href="https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb">https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:@Gangesh: Very much agree.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kevin Kreuser:<a href="https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/odr">https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/odr</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:The objection mechamisms are details (as Jeff mentioned) in module 3 of the AG.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:details = detailed.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:It's also of notice that the language of the Limited Public Interest Objections is very different from the Public Interest Committments in the registry agreement, so the term "Public Intest" is a bit
overloaded in the 2012-round. LPIs were born out of the public order / morality idea, while PICs out of the public safety / security idea. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Khaled Koubaa:@Jeff @Avria @Steve : we are getting lost in discussion outside the agenda. Is it possible to focus on the adopted agenda</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:indeed. was just thinking the same thing. we are going down the issues.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:@Rubens: Absolutely right. It may be worthwhile to consider changing the names of the limited public interest objection and PICS to avoid confusion with PI issues within broader ICANN contexts.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kavouss Arasteh:Ken +1</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Gangesh Varma:+1 Rubens</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Gangesh Varma:Agree with you Amr. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Woo hoo. I clarified something.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:We have a general "timing" issue that we are repairing an airplane that is still flying.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul McGrady:Good analogy Greg!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):We are R2D2, fixing the X-Wing, in flight.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:shirft</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:i mean shrift</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:@Greg: Are we? I thought we were looking at the last plane to figure out how to build a better one this time around, as opposed to repairing the one that is already flying? I may be wrong.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Chan:@Jay, some aspects of the 2012 round are complete. For aspects that are not complete, it might be worth building in dependencies into the Work Plan.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Gangesh Varma:Important aspect raised by Jay. We must be careful with possibility of retrospectively affecting/applying policy. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:for those who do not kow the expression short shrift:</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:short shriftn.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;">
</span>Summary, careless treatment; scant attention:</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:translation/transliteration is an RDS issue, correct. Is there anything specific to gTLd strings in that regard?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:The GNSO receives a regular update from Sarmad Hussain, who leads ICANN's IDN Variant Program, at each ICANN meeting. If this WG has any particular topics or questions, they can be referred to Sarmad for
further discussion/elaboration.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jim Prendergast:UASG is at <a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=47255444">https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=47255444</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:Mary, might be useful when get to those topics in detail during the track work.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):+1</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:Internationalized Domain Names also include IDN ccTLDs, BTW... </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:On translation and transliteration - while the GNSO's PDP on the specific charter questions it had is completed, the subsequent Final Report of the Expert Working Group on Internationalized Registration
Data has just been referred by the ICANN Board to the GNSO Council for consideration as to any potential policy work it may need to do in that regard. The Council will likely discuss this issue in April.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jim Prendergast:IDNs did have a proritization in the draw</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul McGrady:Thanks Jeff!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:@Jim, and that prioritization worked against them, since they had no registrar channels... "be careful what you wish for"</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:@Rubens: If I recall correctly, the first IDN TLD was the Egyptian IDN ccTLD .مصر</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Phil Buckingham:IDN - yes to subsidies and give them priority ( again) </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:Note: while doing the bit of chairing at the top i forgot to mention:</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:Everyone should update their SOIs and should let the group know of any changes they have made.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):I think there is only 1 outstanding SOI, but Steve Chan can correct me.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Chan:@Steve Coates, confirmed, just a single missing SOI</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Katrin Ohlmer| DOTZON:Revisitng the process for letter of credits might be agood idea.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:This report already exists, new gTLD Implementation Report. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Christa Taylor:+1 Alan</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:+ 1 alan + Kavouss</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:ICANN staff report (errousnely credited as community report): <a href="https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/reviews/implementation/program-review-29jan16-en.pdf">https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/reviews/implementation/program-review-29jan16-en.pdf</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alan Greenberg:That part of the AG was largely written by Staff, and then used by them, so we really need their input..</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Chan:@Jeff, the folks you mentioend are following along on the mailing list and staff coordinates on a regular basis to ensure they are informed on the progress of this group</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:Link to comments: <a href="http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-new-gtld-draft-review-23sep15/">http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-new-gtld-draft-review-23sep15/</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Phil Buckingham:+ 1 kavouss - a report / feedback from the evaluators </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Christa Taylor:Its only 215 pages! Thanks for the link</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alan Greenberg:That being said, much of this issue could really be considered implementation.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:@Jeff, given the volume of emails and the number of mailing lists some of them are on, it would additionally be helpful - if the WG has specific questions - for us to reach out to the relevant staff members
directly as well, to ensure timely and targeted responses.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):+1 Mary</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:hard to hear</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kiran Malancharuvil 2:Please speak up but that's better</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Christa Taylor:Better now</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cecilia Smith:better</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:@Steve: Volume a little low. Better now.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Christa Taylor:yes</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:yes. thanks.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Robin Gross:PICS are the AC's competing policy platform for gtld policy.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:These questions also came up during the GNSO closing session in Marrakech (also at the request of the ALAC/GAC), but in the context of the current round.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:yes- a good letter.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:+1 Jeff</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul McGrady:+1 Jeff. We can fix the next round without opining on specific fact patterns coming out of the last round.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Also agree with Jeff.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:@Alan: Appreciate the clarification. Thanks.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:guess the points were more about GAC formal aprticipants</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:On intra-GNSO coordination, I think my earlier point was about this WG and the RPM PDP group appointing a liaison between them.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):Thx, Mary. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:We should note that there are already liasons between GNSO and ACs, and unless we find an specific scaling need to have more than one, I don't see the need for specific WGs to have them. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):Vanda, great point, and we would like to have GAC participation, directly.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:There is a formal GAC-GNSO liaison that is appointed by selection of the GNSO Council. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:@Rubens: Also, the GAC/GNSO consultative group has forseen the possiblity of having some sort of liaising between GNSO PDPs and the GAC, but the group hasn't gotten around to the specifics of that just
yet.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:@Julie: +1</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:Except for the GNSO Liaison</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:who has other possible roles.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:@Avri -- correct!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> ken stubbs:makes this process more inclusive & provides for enhanced communications</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:As Julie noted, it would be up to each SO/AC if they wished to appoint a specific person to report back to them.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:The thinking for having liaisons with the GAC is because individual GAC members cannot represent their AC. In the event of a liaison with the GAC, there should be some sort of process within the GAC to
ensure that the person appointed can represent the GAC effectively.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Robert Burlingame (Pillsbury):Thank you everyone!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Christa Taylor:Thanks!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kiran Malancharuvil 2:Thanks!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Sara Bockey:thank you all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vanda Scartezini:good call. thank you !!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:Thanks everyone!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Gangesh Varma:Thanks all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:Bye all, thanks!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alan Greenberg:Good call.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Yoshi Murakami(JPRS):thank you</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Khaled Koubaa:thanks</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Bye all!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Christopher Niemi:Thanks.</div>
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