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<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group on Monday, 18 April 2016 at 22:00 UTC.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:Hello everybody</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:Hello, welcome Carlos!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Yoshi Murakami(JPRS):Hi</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):I'm on, but just need to step away for a minute. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):Back on.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:Howdy all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Karen Bernstein:Greetings and Salutations.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:Good <time of day> everybody!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:GAC 20 commandments of 2007</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):Link to the language Avri mentions: <a href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/new-gtlds/subsequent-procedures-charter-21jan16-en.pdf">https://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/new-gtlds/subsequent-procedures-charter-21jan16-en.pdf</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Chan:Lost in the ether...</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:lost in transmission</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:objection</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:@Avri: You are now a host.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Tracey Hind (GAC Secretariat):was the previous qeustion you were addressing from a GAC member?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jeff Neuman:Tracey, the topic was addressed last week by several members of the Working Group that wanted to go striaght to talking about the guidebook</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Tracey Hind (GAC Secretariat):ok. thanks</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:Bravo!!!!!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:Lost audio .....but back on a refresh</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Chan:yes!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:Audio gone again!!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Phil Buckingham:lost audio </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:This time it looks wholesale. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Tracey Hind (GAC Secretariat):did you look at GAC Jeff, or do you need someone to do this for you for the GAC?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):I will have the BC's content when I am able to sit with Steve DelBianco. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:lost my audio</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):Carlos - The audio is still on.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:Avri is fine</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Tracey Hind (GAC Secretariat):Will help you from GAC.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:Couldn't hear Jeff at all. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:its back now</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:All I now hear is like a bird in a cage......um, ok, Avri up again.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:Bridge to Adobe might be working one-way. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez: congratulations Jeff for keeping dates as one of the colums</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:very useful</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:Can't hear Alan as well. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:Can always hear Avri. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:hope the other lsits keep the same fomrat</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:Can't hear a thing out of Alan</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):I'll address next. It seems like we are having audio problems. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:canīt hear the gentleman from ALAC</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jeff Neuman:Also, people in the RySG should check to see if I got everything :)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:Hey</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:I can only hear AVri</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:I'm hearing Avri but nobody else</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Craig Schwartz - fTLD Registry:I hear all fine.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:Same as Carlton for me. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:exactly</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Probably a problem with using Adobe audio.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Rather than phone bridge.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:maybe a bridge would help</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:I heard Alan and everyone else, but we have had some breaking up.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:yes</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kurt Pritz:I only hear Avri</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:avri only</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:+506 8837 7176</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:We have a bridge...</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Craig Schwartz - fTLD Registry:I am on the phone line so perhaps an Adobe issue.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:keep going</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:I think it would be very useful to make it clear what the type/status of the advice is. In case of the GAC for example there should be a clear distinction between GAC Advice and something which is less
than formal GAC advice. Olga has mentioned some principles from a GAC WG that she would like to share - we will need clarity on the status of those principle since I do not belioeve they are GAC Advice or indeed formally adopted by the GAC</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):Nobody can hear me talking with Avri?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:@Susan +1</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:I couldn't, Steve. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:Not me sah!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Tracey Hind (GAC Secretariat):@Susan. I sent a document that might be useful to you to Steve last week. Will also help with gAC Advice</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Robert Burlingame (Pillsbury):I can hear everyone</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):Rubens, perhaps relogin? This has happened to me before. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jeff Neuman:I think Susan's points are a good one for the GAC, which is uniquely positioned to give Advice directly to the Board</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:Tried once. Can try it again. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Tracey Hind (GAC Secretariat):Yes. I offered a littl efurther back in the chat (while you were speaking Jeff) to help you complete your spreadsheet for the GAC. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):@Tracey - That is much appreciated. Would love that. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Tracey Hind (GAC Secretariat):you're welcome</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):@rubens - I'm so sorry. Any staff recommendations?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Chan:@Tracey, all, there is a page added to the WG Wiki, which will be used to capture the catalog of statements and advice: <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/Catalog+of+Statements+and+Advice+From+the+Community+-+2012+Round">https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/Catalog+of+Statements+and+Advice+From+the+Community+-+2012+Round</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Tracey Hind (GAC Secretariat):ok. thx</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:canīt hear Jeff.....</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:I hear you fine. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Tracey Hind (GAC Secretariat):I can hear you</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:Even after reloading again, can't hear Jeff or anyone from their side of the universe... </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:I am dialed into the phone bridge.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:suld staff please ask for a bridge to +506 8837 7176</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:Hearing Jeff clearly!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:only Avri :(</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Phil Buckingham:cant hear jeff . can hear avri </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:please call me out</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kurt Pritz:I don't hear Jeff</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:yes, one moment carlos</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):I see Carlos, Rubens, Phil, Kurt having audio issues with everyone except Avri.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:Txs @Kurt. We must have the cheap seats</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:yes I can</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kurt Pritz:I can hear Jeff now</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):Can anyone hear through Adobe or on phone?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Christopher Niemi:Hear in Adobe</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Tracey Hind (GAC Secretariat):I'm on adobe and it's fine</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):I'm on the phone bridge.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:I hear you inadobe well!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Karen Bernstein:Just fine on my end</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez:ok</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Hear on phone.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul Gutierrez: will restart my pc</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Richard Padilla:Hello All I'm sorry for being late had to work </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Robin Gross:I hear through the adobe</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Sara Bockey:No audio issues via adobe for me</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:txxs</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:yes</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul: iīm on the bridge now</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):For those that can't hear Jeff, we are going through the pros and cons listed in Adobe, and making additions, as necessary.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:Regarding competition, the CCT RT is collecting data that might be useful in evaluating whether that statement is worthwhile</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:Phone bridge works fine. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Phil Buckingham:can t hear anything . shall I reconnect on adobe again ? </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:This is a bit more than the usual Adobe Connect issues, is the link between Adobe and phone bridge that is failing today. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:In regard to diversity, there is definitely more with IDNs coming along</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:And failing in a way not only impacting for those speaking, but also for those trying to follow. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):@rubens, I think you are correct.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:Steve is very low! </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:Didn't hear a word he said!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):I will speak louder. I stated that we are at a competitive disadvantage is at a competitive disadvantage because we do not have a TLD.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:I would distinguish that point from the "anticompetitive" point, which I read as alluding to possible antitrust claims.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:that was close Jeff!!!!!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:A Con I usually hear is something in the line of "We already have all the TLDs people need. "</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:close to next round</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):@Greg, agreed.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:@Jeff: Thanks. Sounds practical</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul::)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:It was me :-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:Julie can you number the list please?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:@Jeff: Yes, the CCT RT is looking at that matter and collecting data to substantiate</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:Segmentation I would say, instead of innovation</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Craig Schwartz - fTLD Registry:Very little innovation yet to be seen.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Craig Schwartz - fTLD Registry:Differentiation...lots of that!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:@Carlos: Yes, that iwhat the preliminary data is suggesting has happened.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:@Cragi differentiation/segmetation yes</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:There is data on innovation in general, although not on domains specifically. For instance, data showing correlation between timing and innovation success, which reinforces the principle of predictable
timing. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:getting a brand to the 1st level, does not create a "generic", but a brand at the first level with a new set of combiantions at the second level possible (like delegating 2letter country codes at the
second level. is that innovation or differentiation? I donpt know, but is something new</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:One source on innovation success factors: <a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/bill_gross_the_single_biggest_reason_why_startups_succeed">https://www.ted.com/talks/bill_gross_the_single_biggest_reason_why_startups_succeed</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Tracey Hind (GAC Secretariat):+1 to Alan's statement</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:$1 for Greg Shatan please</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Tracey Hind (GAC Secretariat):Exactly. Cart before horse</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alan Greenberg:Only $!?? That's a pretty low rate for a New York lawyer.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:Con #2 is split If/When. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:he said the forbidden word.....</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:That is one reason we are doing mostly investigative work in these first stages of this PDP WG. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alan Greenberg:@Carlos, a "round" is a multi-part song - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round_%28music%29">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round_%28music%29</a>. What's wrong with that?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Robin Gross:I would list as a "con" for new gtlds: how badly ICANN screwed up the last round. Took in tons of cash, expanded in size and mission scope, many applicants extremely unhappy with ICANN's changing of
the rules and general mis-handling of the last round. Until those problems get fixed, we shouldn't do it again.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Carlos, you can have 6 seconds of my time for that price... :-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:These are also question we can include in the request for Constituency Commnets 1 (CC1)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:@Alan: Restriction on use?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):Greg - I can recommend our Vine platform of 6 second lopoed videos. Perfect for that purpose..</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:Time check 45 minutes - Half way through meeting</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):Speak louder.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:@Jeff +1 about 70 metrics</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Tracey Hind (GAC Secretariat)::-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:@Steve, You can find me on Vine at @GSS1958. I've posted a Vine just for you....</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Robin, I misread your post as "messianic scope"....</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):@greg - Got it! Indeed.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:Time check: 30 minutes left</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:This classification exercise could be usefull for CCT purposes.............</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:5 times rounds</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:he said it 5 times</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:These were not necessarily Brands. Sponsored were essentially simlar to community tlds</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Craig Schwartz - fTLD Registry:Have to run, thanks all.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:and the restricted use are not necessarily Brands.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:I wasn't saying that these were brands, just to be clear....</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kurt Pritz:It might be good to divide the TLD categories between those created by the Consensus Policy and those created in an ad hoc way after the Policy was approved</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Karen Day:Google did get exclusive use for .PLAY</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:Kurt, we are talking about the mergent types and not that they were created as types in the last round.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:A generic term is only generic when it isued to as the name of the thing that makes it generic. Apples for applies, but not for computers....</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:... emergent types ...</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:please comment on the email list or comment areas on the wiki.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:i expect we will build thse into a question in the request for Community Comments</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:One reason for having TLD categories is to allow applicants to request a specific category, and if ICANN wouldn't allow that, for that application to be denied. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:Which gets more predictability than signing an agreement with ICANN and then having their categorization denied. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:@Rubens I dont think is up to the applicant to decicde on categorization</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:Not to decide, but to request. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Agree that one size does not and did not fit all.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:@Rubens as Avri said its an emergent carachteriztion by grouping the applications</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:Like in if .example doesn't get Brand TLD qualification, applicant prefers its application to be denied. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Should "faux communities" be a recognized type?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:@Rubens antoher issue would be if after categoriztion, a new "channels" could be opened to a new category</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:l@Greg faux pass</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:Faux communities can be prevented by not having policies that invite them to do so... </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:Or was that just a funny line.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:at least for the CCT it may be useful to have such a category framework, in a common language with this pdp</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):Sort of funny. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Chan:<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/c.+Subject+Work+Spaces">https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/c.+Subject+Work+Spaces</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Not entirely a joke. Is there something useful in looking at a type that may not meet all the criteria of a community, but is not just a generic?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:@Rubens, I agree that gaming by trying to be a community was inspired by the prioritization rules.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Robin Gross:We may want to re-think the whole concept of "community" tlds.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:@Greg, I think Validated registry covers the use cases I can think that are between full generic and communities. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):@robin - Definitely agree there could use some clarity there.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Chan:<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/d.+Decision+Log">https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/d.+Decision+Log</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Chan:Decision Log: there is a Data Agreed column and to Avri's point, there is a Data Confirmed, which I envisioned as the second meeting, where the decision is confirmed</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Yes I think it is a gd idea</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates (Twitter):I think it's a fabulous idea, and I would be very grateful. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:The RPM Working Group will hold its first meeting this Thursday; presumably the liaison question will be discussed at one of its subsequent (but early) meetings.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:The liaison is required by the WG Charter, yes. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Chan:It's captured in the WG Charter for both of the PDPs</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:But if the RPM WG thinks it's an awful idea, they can ask to Council to reconsider that idea... I think it's a good idea, though. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Tracey Hind (GAC Secretariat):Can you show the list of pros and cons again on the screen? I'd like to take a screen shot</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Tracey Hind (GAC Secretariat):thanks/!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:I will</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:its only two times possible</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):as someone who often has issues with EU and NA tme zones.. the rotating times are fine by me even though ne is in the *middle of my night 0200) this one is just fine</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:Hobart in Tasmania to LA</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:Steve can check it with Lars hoffman please</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Tracey Hind (GAC Secretariat):+1 to Cheryl</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael Flemming:Being in Asia GMT+ 9:00, I end up spending a majority of my early morning hours (0:00 - 3:00) in ICANN related meetings. However, having them at this time, (7:00 - 8:30) is much better for my schedule.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Chan:@Carlos, thanks</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):We just have to share the pain</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:Sure why not Avri :-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Chan:Yes :)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:I will note that I am on the East Coast, and I have a Next Gen RDS call tomorrow night from 1-2:30 am (05:00-06:30 UTC). So we do get the short end of the stick sometimes (and more often lately).</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlos Raul:I will send the times</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:Just limit people in WGs to be from UTC-3 to UTC+3 only. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:thanks, night</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Karen Bernstein:Have a good evening, morning, and night</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Good call thans Avri and Jeff, thanks all, talk again soon... Bye for now...</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Robin Gross:thanks, all, bye.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Robert Burlingame (Pillsbury):Thank you everyone!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Richard Padilla:Bye</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Sara Bockey:thanks all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marilia Maciel:Thanks</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:Thanks all </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:Bye</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Rounds.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Iliya Bazlyankov:Thanks and bye!</div>
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