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<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group, Monday, 08 August 2016 16:00 UTC.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jeff Neuman:All - We will start in 3 minutes</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jeff Neuman:1 minute....</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Karen Bernstein:Good day everyone</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Richard Padilla:Hi all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Christa Taylor:yes</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul McGrady:yes</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Christa Taylor:lol</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Emily Barabas:connecting with her now</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Freida Tallon .Sky:Hello All</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:i cannot hear. will have to do something. i heard during check.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul McGrady:We are. A few more days</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Phil Marano (Mayer Brown):IPC membership call tomorrow, most likely a topic for discussion.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cecilia Smith:I reached out to the Chair o& Policy coordinator and they said they would send out, but I haven't seen anything. I will follow up this morning.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Nathaniel Edwards:Apologies for late arrival</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul McGrady:Happy to do so. Will post to Council list.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jeff Neuman:@Avri - Yes. We have good participation on the lists, but not necessarily during the calls</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cecilia Smith:Correction, BC will send out to group for discussion, not sure if/when response will be returned to WG.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Donna Austin, Neustar:The RySG comments support the introduction of new gTLDs in the future.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jeff Neuman:Can we post a link to the RySG comment to show their response</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:@Jeff: It is on the wiki at: <a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/59645660/RySG%20comments%20on%20NewgTLD%20Subsequent%20Proceduresl.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1470669705608&api=v2">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/59645660/RySG%20comments%20on%20NewgTLD%20Subsequent%20Proceduresl.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1470669705608&api=v2</a>.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Karen Bernstein:Isn't the whole purpose of this to decide whether there should be second round?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Karen Bernstein:Ok</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Christa Taylor:The different categories could also tie in to application fees</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:@Christa: +1</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> VANDA:@carlton , yes agree too</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:@Avri: There was some baseline attributes to geographic, just not itemised in one place in the GB</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:@Jeff: This WG would be remiss if we didn't address the idea/concept/category generally called "community".</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Avri Doria:Community was one of the categories in the AGB. we may want to discuss how it was done, but it is not new as a category</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:@Avri: Soo true. But both ALAC and the GAC had concerns about definition and structural elements.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> VANDA:guess due the problem some community had with the previous work on colecting support ...</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Robin Gross:I also have concern about the way the concept of "community" has evolved at ICANN.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Donna Austin, Neustar:I just found this text in the RySG response as part of the reply to 2c: We do not believe that regulated and highly-regulated TLDs should be treated as a separate category of TLDs from the
application process as these categories were solely derived from GAC Advice and not self-designation by the applicant.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul McGrady:Will dial in</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> VANDA:Ia gree with Donna</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Robin Gross:I believe we should consider doing away with community as a category in the future, in part, due to its arbitariness.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Robin Gross:arbitrariness</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul McGrady:On the phone line now, ready to try again.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:@Jeff: Definition on community for clarity is the ALAC's position</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Karen Day-.JMP:+1 Paul</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates:For generics, I think we should spend some time discussing definitions. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul McGrady:Thanks Avri</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Donna Austin, Neustar:@Jeff, which is the same for regulated and highly regulated.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul McGrady:But Spec 11 didn't exist when the AGB was published. The issue here is notice to new applicants, rather than surprises.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> VANDA:my point shouls be informed but not established as a category</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul McGrady:I'm agnostic on what we call it, but if closed generics need not apply, we just need to be up front about it.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> VANDA:@paul - agree</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jeff Neuman:@paul - Agreed the rules need to be clear</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul McGrady:Avri - agree.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Laura Watkins:Agree and think that makes sense but the only caution I would say that we should avoic being too prescriptive - there should be options for applicants that don't fit into set categories</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Donna Austin, Neustar:I think they're called </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Donna Austin, Neustar:generic</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Donna Austin, Neustar:sorry Avri, I was being flippant</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul McGrady:This is a big issue. Can we agree to talk to indecision today pending additional responses from the other Cs and SGs?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Christa Taylor:+1 Donna</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Grace Mutung'u:rounds should be more predictable...maybe every three -five years to allow those catching up with the Internet opportunity?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Donna Austin, Neustar:yes, an ongoing process</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Donna Austin, Neustar:Correct Jeff</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jeff Neuman:I agree it is two points</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kurt Pritz:Thiis is the current policy: "All applicants for a new gTLD registry should therefore be evaluated against transparent and predictable criteria, fully available to the applicants prior to the initiation
of the process. Normally, therefore, no subsequent additional selection criteria should be used in the selection process."</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> VANDA:+ 1 Donna, ongoing process to allow specially developing countries to be more prepared.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels 2:The A/C room has been flacky since morning for me</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> VANDA:for me too....</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Donna Austin, Neustar:No objection from me. Good to have the discussion.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Coates:Terrible time logging in today.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels 2:I thought we were looking at engagement in the applciation process? That is VERY early in the process, no?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels 2:@Donna: That would be helpfu but in the ALAC's view the engagement process takes on a wider perspective; we need more discussants from different places in the circle.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels 2:@Avri: The latter, during application process</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels 2:@Avri: Yes</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):indeed Avri</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I suspect ALAC would agree with this point Donna we were under impressed with thd 'outreach'</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> VANDA:we had NO outreach in this south region here.. I personally did some and got some new applicants but nothing really organized outreach.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul McGrady:Outreach can always be improved.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Donna Austin, Neustar:RySG comment: Notwithstanding the ultimate goal of a continuous process, the RySG does not support the notion of placing unnecessary limitations on future applicants. This would be anti-competitive,
has the potential to inhibit innovation: and, as such, is antithetical to the purpose of introducing new gTLDs.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul McGrady:Should we ask Staff if they can handle 10,000 applications?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:This would be a question for Akram/GDD :)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul McGrady:Thanks Mary! Thanks Avri!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul McGrady:I predicted 596. Boy, was I wrong,</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Nathaniel Edwards:I agree. Enforcement/community/objections costs will be out of control for 10,000+ applications.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul McGrady:Great call today Avri. Thanks for keeping us on track.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> VANDA:very productive emeting, thanks Avri!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Christa Taylor:Thank-you Avri!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Thx everyone, bye for niw then... THANKS Avri more taalk whn it is NT 0330 </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Richard Padilla:bye all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cecilia Smith:Thanks you! </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Karen Day-.JMP:goodbye thanks</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Freida Tallon .Sky:Thanks and Bye all</div>
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