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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>We should consider whether “accreditation” might be the better concept – if we have a perpetually open round top levels may become the new second levels as new brands roll out, reducing the dependence on the registrar layer. I’m not wed to the idea, but I see back-end registry service providers becoming increasingly important in the ecosystem. “Accreditation” would not only speed evaluation, but could provide some level of buying comfort to a potential new registry (similar to what registrar accreditation does for the second level end user).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>For what it’s worth and not in any way dogmatic. Just thinking out loud.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Paul D. McGrady, Jr.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>policy@paulmcgrady.com<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Austin, Donna<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 30, 2016 2:28 PM<br><b>To:</b> Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com>; Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br><br><b>Cc:</b> gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Provision of back-end registry services<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I agree with Michele that the choice of words is quite important, which is why I’m interested to understand what people mean when they say accreditation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>There are many who believe that ‘accreditation’ will solve a number of problems, but I think that depends on what you mean by accreditation and the problems you’re trying to solve.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michele Neylon - Blacknight<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 30, 2016 6:30 AM<br><b>To:</b> Rubens Kuhl <<a href="mailto:rubensk@nic.br">rubensk@nic.br</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Provision of back-end registry services<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Rubens<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The choice of words, at least in my view, is quite important.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Accreditation in ICANN-land infers creating contractual relationships that may not be desirable for anyone.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Certification or “approval” suggests that the entity has met certain requirements either via some form of test or by stating that they’d do (or not do) certain things. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Both options create a form of standard.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>As for the data – I disagree. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Michele<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Mr Michele Neylon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Blacknight Solutions<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Hosting, Colocation & Domains<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.blacknight.host_&d=DQQGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=4A3LwUUER9_CePZ11QJsr56eryGQiPHEqv4TL7JH87w&m=VOroj8XthhRyQE6NTqkdUePNStX149XxJyiM8vS2Ty4&s=rsKaCFTAS_xeuZkRp4rTacIsxQtfzGu9aaJ7zgp893k&e=">http://www.blacknight.host/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__blacknight.blog_&d=DQQGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=4A3LwUUER9_CePZ11QJsr56eryGQiPHEqv4TL7JH87w&m=VOroj8XthhRyQE6NTqkdUePNStX149XxJyiM8vS2Ty4&s=WsbKPNDF6xXlMUSi7m3af6u780P6n4OPiEva16TAR3Q&e=">http://blacknight.blog/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.blacknight.press&d=DQQGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=4A3LwUUER9_CePZ11QJsr56eryGQiPHEqv4TL7JH87w&m=VOroj8XthhRyQE6NTqkdUePNStX149XxJyiM8vS2Ty4&s=tAuufLQWDo780aMZgc58JYwUvxDbXwuzaRomojIJL-0&e=">http://www.blacknight.press</a> - 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Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com">michele@blacknight.com</a>> escreveu:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>What about obligations on the backend providers to release data? Ie. In the case where a registry switches backend provider.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Data is already stored at escrow provider, so the easier way for a registry to get its data is authorizing the escrow provider to allow a different backend to access data. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>One obligation that is more interesting to impose on backend providers is to cooperate with the transition, notably the DNSSEC transition. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>While I agree that any potential accreditation system / process should be lightweight (maybe it should be “certification” and not “accreditation”?) I also think that baking in a couple of other elements to it wouldn’t hurt.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I'm neutral on wording. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Rubens<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>