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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">All,<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">This is a great discussion and I believe we should document all of these pros and cons for WT1. Terminology (certification vs. accreditation vs. something else)
will be important as we go down this path, but for now I would encourage us to stick to the concept of a voluntary process to pre-evaluate a registry-services provider such that it would not require a “re-evaluation” every single time it was associated with
a new TLD application. This is the concept that I think of when we talk about this subject.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">All of the other issues we will need to address as well. Are they under contract with ICANN? If so, what does that contract look like? If they are under contract,
would that be more akin to the types of MoUs that they have with EBEROs, Escrow Providers, etc. or more like a contract that they have with registrars? Under what circumstances, if any, would they need to be re-evaluated?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">WT-1 now has this issue and we will re-circulate the notes that have the problems which we are trying to solve and benefits. The benefits of having a “pre-evaluation
process” would include (a) having consistency in evaluation results, (b) improving competition by allowing other third parties to become RSPs, (c) presumably lower TLD application fees for registry operators (since that part of the evaluation would not have
to be performed every time), (d) lessening overall TLD application processing time. We can post the other benefits we came up with.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">We also need to document the negatives that have been pointed out such that if we did establish this pre-approval process, we design that process in such a way
to avoid the negatives. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hope that all makes sense.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul McGrady<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Austin, Donna' <Donna.Austin@neustar.biz>; 'Michele Neylon - Blacknight' <michele@blacknight.com>; 'Rubens Kuhl' <rubensk@nic.br><br>
<b>Cc:</b> gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Provision of back-end registry services<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We should consider whether “accreditation” might be the better concept – if we have a perpetually open round top levels may become the new second levels as new brands roll
out, reducing the dependence on the registrar layer. I’m not wed to the idea, but I see back-end registry service providers becoming increasingly important in the ecosystem. “Accreditation” would not only speed evaluation, but could provide some level of
buying comfort to a potential new registry (similar to what registrar accreditation does for the second level end user).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">For what it’s worth and not in any way dogmatic. Just thinking out loud.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Paul D. McGrady, Jr.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:policy@paulmcgrady.com">policy@paulmcgrady.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Austin, Donna<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 30, 2016 2:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michele Neylon - Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com">michele@blacknight.com</a>>; Rubens Kuhl <<a href="mailto:rubensk@nic.br">rubensk@nic.br</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Provision of back-end registry services<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I agree with Michele that the choice of words is quite important, which is why I’m interested to understand what people mean when they say accreditation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">There are many who believe that ‘accreditation’ will solve a number of problems, but I think that depends on what you mean by accreditation and the problems you’re
trying to solve.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michele Neylon - Blacknight<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 30, 2016 6:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rubens Kuhl <<a href="mailto:rubensk@nic.br">rubensk@nic.br</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Provision of back-end registry services<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Rubens<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The choice of words, at least in my view, is quite important.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Accreditation in ICANN-land infers creating contractual relationships that may not be desirable for anyone.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Certification or “approval” suggests that the entity has met certain requirements either via some form of test or by stating that they’d do (or not do) certain
things. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Both options create a form of standard.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">As for the data – I disagree.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday 30 August 2016 at 14:18<br>
<b>To: </b>Michele Neylon <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com">michele@blacknight.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Provision of back-end registry services<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Data is already stored at escrow provider, so the easier way for a registry to get its data is authorizing the escrow provider to allow a different backend to access data. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One obligation that is more interesting to impose on backend providers is to cooperate with the transition, notably the DNSSEC transition. <o:p></o:p></p>
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