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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Dear All,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Please find below notes and Actions Items from the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures WG call on Monday, 03 October 2016.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Emily<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Agenda:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">1. Welcome/Review Agenda<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">2. SOIs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">3. Update from WT Leaders<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">4. GNSO Council letter - Update on GNSO Council call<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">5. Continued discussion on Overarching Issues/CC1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">6. Work Track Coordination<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">7. AOB <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Notes and Action Items:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">1. Kavouss Arasteh: Expressed appreciation to the CWG and everyone involved in the IANA Transition.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">2. Steve Coates has an updated SOI:
<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Stephen+Jadie+Coates+SOI">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Stephen+Jadie+Coates+SOI</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">3. Update from WT Leaders<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Sara Bockey (WT1) - Initial discussions have been taking place around accreditation. Support for applicants from developing countries will be addressed in the upcoming call.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Michael Flemming (WT2) - The group has started discussing the base registry agreement, and has started looking at pros and cons for single agreement vs. agreements by category. The next
topic will be terms and conditions. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Karen Day (WT3) - The group is starting to discuss objections. The next meeting will be a deep dive into limited public interest objections.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Rubens Kuhl (WT4) – The group is in an information discovery phase. They are seeking to interface with UASG, hoping to get information from ICANN staff on 2012 round, but ICANN staff
has not been forthcoming with information. The group has started working on outreach questions and will likely continue working on developing those questions next week.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">4. GNSO Council letter
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Update on GNSO Council call- Many SG/Cs responded directly to the Council. This working group also sent a letter to the Council explaining that the group did not reach consensus on the
topic.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- This was a big agenda item, but there was very little time for it to be discussed on the GNSO Council call.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Resolution: a small group from the Council will compile all statement that will be sent to the Board.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- The goal is to finalize the letter for the next meeting to send to the Board. - Summary of input received:
<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/owu4Aw">https://community.icann.org/x/owu4Aw</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Kavouss Arasteh: Will the small group response reflect that the Subsequent Procedures PGP WG has not reached consensus on this issue?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Mary Wong (staff): The small group will synthesize all of the feedback received and reflect this in its response to the Board.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">5. Continued discussion on Overarching Issues/CC1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- <b>Sections 2b and 2c</b>: These question address which categories should or should not be included in the list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Question raised by the IPC: if we have types, is there something distinctive about the way each type will be handled?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Donna Austin: It’s critical to understand: What's the consequence of defining categories? How do we move forward if we define categories? A brand has not been defined in terms of policy.
Is this something the group needs to address, regarding whether Specification 13 still holds? We already have 1500 applicants that have gone through an initial process. What disparities are we creating by introducing categories at this point? How much of the
conversation from the 2012 round do we reopen again? This is a complicated issue, and we need to understand the consequences and determine a path forward.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Jeff Neuman: It is complicated, but if we all accept the fact that there are categories, we can develop a checklist to use as we go through the different issues to identify where there
are differences that we need to consider and what the consequences will be. There are categories and they are not going away. 1500 applications in the first round shouldn't dissuade us from making a change going forward. (Kavouss agreed)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Donna Austin: What is the benefit? Challenge: how do we define categories? Maybe is useful to review previous discussions on categories and see what information is still relevant. Do
we need to have the category discussion before we have a substantive discussion about registry agreements in sub team 3?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Martin Sutton: With the process and agreement modeled around traditional open registry, selling domains, this causes barriers to new entrants. It also causes extreme issues in the post-application
process for those that have ventured forth.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Avri Doria: In 2012, a list of possible categories came up, but we waited to see what emerged in practice. She sees at least four that we have to deal with (standard, community, geographical,
brand). The closed generic ended up emerging as an issue-based category. Sensitive strings and highly regulated emerged in the context of PICs. Closed generics also emerged. As we walk through the issues, we should walk through the impact around those possible
categories, without making a final determination on categories. If they didn't emerge in the last round, we shouldn't create them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Jeff Neuman: There was an IGO category as well<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: Jeff, it applied to both governmental and intergovernmental organizations. As long as it's governmental, they would have a different contract. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Jeff Neuman: right....so in the last round we had generic, geographic, brand, community, governmental<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: What had an specific IGO angle were LROs (Legal Right Objections), where IGOs got automatic eligibility for filing a objection when though not having
a trademark<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: And the governmental could be generic, geographic, brand or exclusive use... it's a matrix. </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Jeff Neuman: There was GAC advice sensitive strings. Certain applicants had to accept PICs. No policy process has looked at whether that was the appropriate way to address the issue,
and whether this is an appropriate category. We owe it to the GAC and the Board to weigh in on this issue.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Jorge Cancio: Perhaps we should look at the different elements a category may mean: 1) a specific purpose; 2) a set of specific requirements for the applicant; 3) specific procedures
to go through; 4) specific conditions in the registry agreement; etc. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Tom Dale: ALAC had asked the Board to examine the PICs. The Board responded that this PDP group is considering the PICs along with the CCT-RT. This would be a logical part of our work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Avri Doria: There is a segment of the community that is unhappy with the PICs and feel that PICs were forced on people. Another question to address: to what extent are PICs enforceable?
There is a whole set of issues that need to be discussed under PICs. This is somewhat separate from the discussion of categories itself.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Jeff Neuman: PICs will be addressed in WT 2 and 3: WT 2 will address the topic from the agreement and enforcement perspective, WT 3 from a dispute resolution perspective. It’s for us
to consider whether there is this extra category of sensitive strings, and if so, how and where is this category treated differently.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Tom Dale: Just to add on PICs, it would be useful to check what the CCT Review Team has looked at in terms of consumer protection/safeguards.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Donna Austin: If we determine if the PICs are unenforceable, what is the consequence for registries that already have PICs from the last round.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Jeff Neuman: I think the question is not whether PICs are enforceable but who can enforce and how. Obviously, ICANN can enforce, but are third party actions appropriate. Another question
is about time-based PICs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Avri Doria: Yes, it is about how PICs are enforced, and also if a PIC is content related, how does that work? PICs never went through a policy process. It will go through one here. There
are many issues, especially in the context of the new bylaws.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Kavouss Arasteh: Suggested moving the discussion forward because time is limited.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Avri Doria: Avri is not worried about spending extra time on this issue because it is important to address. Seven possible categories emerged during the 2012 round that we definitely
need to look at more closely: standard, community, geographical, brand, closed generic, sensitive strings, highly regulated. Do we have more than 7 possible categories going forward in our discussions? Not sure about validated, IGO, and non-profit as special
types. These did not emerge in the last round but that we included in CC1 questions. Do we work with 7 or 10?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Jorge Cancio: I would just refer to the types of names mentioned in the GAC input.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Donna Austin: 7 it's a smaller number<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Jorge Cancio: I would just refer to the types of names mentioned in the GAC input<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Rubens Kuhl: @Donna, that depends if such classification gets any kind of priority, like community TLDs. If it doesn't translate into different agreement or
different contention set resolution, that it's definitely not to be looked at. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry): If we're going to start focusing on categories, can we please define each category so we're all using the same language and references?</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Kristina Rosette: If we're going to start focusing on categories, can we please define each category so we're all using the same language and references?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Donna Austin: @Kristina, defining each category will be the challenge.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Kristina Rosette: @Donna: That's my point. But I don't see the value in using each category as a framework if we can't define them in a way that is clear, certain, and predictable<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Avri Doria: There appears to be agreement to start with a list of 10.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Section 2d:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Avri Doria: All three responses feed into the matrix approach, listing categories, issues distinct to those categories.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Kristina Rosette: Concern about where we are going and how long and it will take there if we discuss categories before defining them. We seem to be moving forward with discussing broadly
defined categories. Need to define what they are and what they are not. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Avri Doria: This seems reasonable.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Karen Day: Wouldn't step 1 of the matrix by necessity be the definition?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Berry Cobb: Meta-tags may be a better way to consider possible strings rather than just looking at categories. Using the word categories is a difficult place to start, because strings
may belong to more than one type. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Kavouss Arasteh: The use of or reference to category seems fundamental.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Jorge Cancio: some "categories" may indeed add up: a string could be a generic term, that describes a highly regulated industry and be presented as a community string.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Rubens Kuhl: A TLD can be governmental, geographic and community, like .barcelona. Or non-governmental, geographic and community like .osaka, or governmental and geographic but not community
like .rio. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Avri Doria: We need to come some with some definitions, we have 10 categories/meta-tags, we have a column for aspects of application process, then we can come back to this in a more structured
way.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">[Action Item: Staff will do an initial draft the groupings in the matrix and begin defining groups (Steve Chan)]<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Section 2e</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Avri Doria: There are a range of responses on this topic, ranging from all applications going through at the same time to allowing certain types of applications to go first.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Jeff Neuman: This has been discussed in other fora regarding the brand only round. There are arguments on both sides (pro/con) that should be aired in this group.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Avri Doria: There have also been proposals for rounds/windows only for developing economies or only IDNs.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Jorge Cancio: As said in the GAC comments to 2 d) I feel some categories may benefit/merit a specific window, while others my go in parallel, although with different conditions attached
etc. In any case, one issue to consider is that whatever method is employed applicants and interest-holders of different categories need to be given the chance to be heard due to the uniqueness of the string in question, once delegated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Donna Austin: This is another place where category definitions are needed before we can move forward with substantive discussion. Concern with moving forward with a specific category
round: there might me a sense that some of the demand had been alleviated and therefore no hurry for additional procedures. If there was a targeted round, there would need to be a commitment that the rest would follow shortly thereafter.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Avri Doria: There is also a concern that if there is a targeted round, will everyone try to squeeze their application into the type in this round? This feeds into the question from the
Board. Agrees that it makes sense to revisit after we have done further work defining the categories.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Jorge Cancio: As said in the GAC comments to 2 d) I feel some categories may benefit/merit a specific window, while others my go in parallel, although with
different conditions attached etc. In any case, one issue to consider is that whatever method is employed applicants and interest-holders of different categories need to be given the chance to be heard due to the uniqueness of the string in question, once
delegated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Vanda: from mround y study from lac region with mostly brands interested in next round i do believe it will be positive a separate.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Rubens Kuhl: Most strings can have multiple meanings like brand and generic. Apple is both a fruit and a computer company... any limitated application on one
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">- Martin Sutton: Given the unpredictable length of time before new applications may be opened, it could be an opportunity for ICANN to consider maintaining some
momentum by looking at low-risk options, by opening up applications to those with less contention experienced in 2012 round, such as brands. It would be important to have a well-defined category.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">6. Work Track Coordination<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">[Action Item: Staff will send poll regarding this group’s attendance (in-person and remote) for Hyderbad]</span></b><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday 4 October 2016 at 03:36<br>
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<b>Cc: </b>"gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Gnso-newgtld-wg] Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat for New gTLD Subsequent Procedures WG call on Monday, 03 October 2016<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email and the MP3 recording below for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group call held on Monday, 03 October
2016 at 20:00 UTC.<span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>Attendance of the calls is also posted on the agenda wiki page:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="line-height:15.6pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday, 03 October 2016</span></u></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> Michelle DeSmyter: Dear All, Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group call on Monday, 03 October 2016 at 20:00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Michelle DeSmyter: Agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/_we4Aw<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Michelle DeSmyter: Member page: https://community.icann.org/x/Ogp1Aw<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: please mute the mics<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Jeff Neuman: we will kick off in a few minutes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: CLO: the new Room has not recognized you VIP status yet........<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: yes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: echo is clear and loud<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Jeff Neuman: I am waiting for an operator at the moment<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Michelle DeSmyter: thanks Jeff - I just gave them the heads up also<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Karen Day: terrible echo on staff<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Phil Buckingham: +++++1 Kavouss and all other CCWG participants <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland): we are wildly in agreement :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Steve Coates: I have an updated SOI - https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Stephen+Jadie+Coates+SOI<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): yes doing work tht wuld be good<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">kavouss arasteh: Secretariat,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">kavouss arasteh: Pls correct I did refer to CWG AND NOT CCWG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">avri: Yes CCWG goes on and one<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Sara Bockey: CCT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">avri: ... and on<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): So true Avri :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Mary Wong: 13 October<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Mary Wong: (next Council meeting)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Mary Wong: @Jeff, that is corrrect.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Philip Corwin: That is correct, Jeff. Council established a small subgroup of which I am one member.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Steve Chan: @ Carlos, full dosclosure: Emily prepared it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Philip Corwin: As is Carlos<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Steve Chan: https://community.icann.org/x/owu4Aw<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Donna Austin: I think its just a compilation <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Mary Wong: Synthesize, is the word used during the Council meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Steve Chan: You can find all responses that the GNSO Council received, plus the draft staff/compilation summary.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: exactly<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: Draft is the operative word here... <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: I recommend looking at staffs compilation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: o comments<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Philip Corwin: We shall try to synthesize some widely divergent views, but it shall be a challenge.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: including the ones by this PDPs leaderhsip<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: @Phil just emphasize divergence<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Emily Barabas: Avri -- we finished 2a in the previous call, so we still need to cover 2b today<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Donna Austin: I think that's critical to understand. What's the consequence of defining categories.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Jeff Neuman: There was an IGO category as well<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: Jeff, it applied to both governmental and intergovernmental organizations. As long as it's governmental, they would have a different
contract. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Jeff Neuman: right....so in the last round we had generic, geographic, brand, community, governmental<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: What had an specific IGO angle were LROs (Legal Right Objections), where IGOs got automatic eligibility for filing a objection when
though not having a trademark<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: And the governmental could be generic, geographic, brand or exclusive use... it's a matrix. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: (even though not having a TM)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">kavouss arasteh: Jeff+1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland): I'm losing time and again my connection<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland): But just to recall the GAC input where the usefulness of categories was stressed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">kavouss arasteh: Jorge1+1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Martin Sutton: With the process and agreement modeled around traditional open registry, selling domains, this causes barriers to new entrants.
It also causes extreme issues in the post-application process for those that have ventured forth.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: Categories and multiple agreements are indeed connected. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Jeff Neuman: Its also connected to application criteria<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland): perhaps we should look at the different elements a category may mean: 1) a specific purpose; 2) a set of specific
requirements for the applicant; 3) specific procedures to go through; 4) specific conditions in the registry agreement; etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): yes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Jeff Neuman: And connected to objections, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Jeff Neuman: That is why it is an overarching issue :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): indeed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Donna Austin: geographic had a specific definitiation in the guidebook<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Jeff Neuman: @Donna - that definition came after it was decided to create that category<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland): @staff: my audio is so bad that I cannot intervene, but please take up my points in the notes - thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Jeff Neuman: which is sort of what we are doing now. Should we formally recognize other categories<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: One curious thing is that Geographic contracts have not carried the part of terms and conditions where ICANN was allowed to redelegate
the contract due to opposition from the government that authorized it at application time. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: So it's yet to be seen what happens in a Geo TLD redelegation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Phil Buckingham: dont think we should categorise for profit and not for profit . this distinction should be dealt thro/ in the financial
model / evaluation /application / capability tests and fee charged <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Martin Sutton: The latest round experiences should be used to improve the process and encourage competition. Lessons learnt would indicate that
ignoring some of the complex issues could continue to create more protracted problems post application.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Steve Chan: @Jorge, we will make sure your comment is raised<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland): @Steve: thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">vanda: makes sense Avri.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: Or even if those PICs actually address GAC advice or not... <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Donna Austin: @Rubens, and what if they don't?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: @Donna, we either decide that GAC Policy Advice is not to be accepted, and maintain status quo, or decide to accept that advice,
and make the changes required to actually fulfil that advice. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): exactly Tom e need ot address<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): to address<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: PICs were forced down people's throats. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Phil Buckingham: @ Tom PICs currently in WT2 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Tom Dale (ACIG GAC Secretariat): @Phil Indeed, thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">kavouss arasteh: We certauinly need to maintain the notion of category but not having an extended list of categories<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">kavouss arasteh: Ingac terms, we have highly sensitive and sensitive strings which we need to maintain the bnotion of category<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): makes sense to me Avri<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: Category, type, group, class... pick a word on move on. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Donna Austin: Isn't that the PIC DDDRP?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: There is the PIC DRP and there is the PDDRP. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: PDDRP is oriented towards TM RPMs, PIC DRP is generic of PICs. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Jeff Neuman: @Avri - Should get Becky Burr's view of PICs in relation to the Bylaws as she definately addressed them<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Donna Austin: and the PIC DRP is being discussed by the RPM WG isn't it><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Susan Payne: hi donna, no, RPMs are dealing with PDDRP but not PICDRP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Donna Austin: thanks Susan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Steve Chan: @Donna, this WG will also cover RRDRP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Donna Austin: the validation is more a business model decision rather than a category, or is it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Jeff Neuman: @Donna - perhaps<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry): Business model decision, in our view.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Jeff Neuman: BUT, we could discuss whether they should have preference over non-validated in contention<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Tom Dale (ACIG GAC Secretariat): Just to add on PICs, it would be useful to check what the CCT Review Team has looked at in terms of consumer
protection/safeguards.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Phil Buckingham: + 1 Donna + Kristina <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Jeff Neuman: Sort of like community<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Gg Levine (NABP): Any thoughts on what if an applicant fits into more than one category?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Donna Austin: 7 it's a smaller number<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland): I would just refer to the types of names mentioned in the GAC input<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: @Donna, that depends if such classification gets any kind of priority, like community TLDs. If it doesn't translate into different
agreement or different contention set resolution, that it's definitely not to be looked at. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry): If we're going to start focusing on categories, can we please define each category so we're all using the
same language and references?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Donna Austin: @ Rubens and its a highly regulated string<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Philip Corwin: Confirming that RPM WG is only looking at PDDRP, not PICDRD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Donna Austin: @Kristina, defining the each category will be the challenge <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland): and defining what the effect of being categorized...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Karen Day: Agree start to look at 10<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Christa Taylor: 10 and moving downwards makes the most sense<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): May as well<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Martin Sutton: Agree start with 10 then remove if necessary<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry): @ Donna: That's my point. But I don't see the value in using each category as a framework if we can't define
them in a way that is clear, certain, and predictable<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: HIghly regulated gets different agreement, like what happened in 2012 having different PICs than other TLDs... possibly. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Kevin Kreuser: agree w/ Kristina<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Donna Austin: I agree with you Kristina.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Berry Cobb: The group may wish to consider assigning "meta-tags" to strings as opposed to calling them categories. As Kristina points out it
may be difficult to properly defined a category and even more difficult to assing a string to one category especially since it could be assigned to more than one. For example a generic string might also be a sensitive string or perhaps a closed TLD. This
aligns with the frameworking of building a matrix.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): good point Berry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Karen Day: Wouldn't step 1 of the Matrix by neccesity be the definition?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: Berry, attributes would be a word for it, perhaps ? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: Non-mutually exclusive comes to mind in such definitions. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Phil Buckingham: so the questions asked on application are by each TLDs "attributes " ? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">kavouss arasteh: The use of or reference to category seems fundamental<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland): some "categories" may indeed add up: a string could be a generic term, that describes a highly regulated industry
and be presented as a community string...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: A TLD can be governmental, geographic and community, like .barcelona. Or non-governmental, geographic and community like .osaka,
or governmental and geographic but not community like .rio. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: Like the "tags" idea. Makes the new gTLD searchable<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland): right - there may be multiple combinations...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: multiple tags<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland): yes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">vanda: yes clear<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">kavouss arasteh: Jorge, yes to what ? to multiple tag?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">kavouss arasteh: yes, tks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland): As said in the GAC comments to 2 d) I feel some categories may benefit/merit a specific window, while others
my go in parallel, although with different conditions attached etc. In any case, one issue to consider is that whatever method is employed applicants and interest-holders of different categories need to be given the chance to be heard due to the uniqueness
of the string in question, once delegated...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">vanda: from mround y study from lac region with mostly brands interested in next round i do believe it will be positive a separate <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: Most strings can have multiple meanings like brand and generic. Apple is both a fruit and a computer company... any limitated application
on one type excludes the other types. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Martin Sutton: Given the unpredictable length of time before new applications may be opened, it could be an opportunity for ICANN to consider
maintaining some momentum by looking at low-risk options, by opening up applications to those with less contention experienced in 2012 round, such as brands.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Martin Sutton: It would be important to have a well-defined category.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Donna Austin: sorry Avri, we seem to have some time delay<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Donna Austin: @Martin, brands needs to be defined <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: To quote an example of the type of gaming that can occur, the dubious trademarks registered for the .eu sunrise is still a good
example. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Susan Payne: Will the WTs also have sessions?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry): Staff: Does this morning's announcement about the damaged equipment affect the abilty of folks to participate
remotely (not in hubs)?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Phil Buckingham: Isnt there a problem with RP ? Fire on ship <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry): thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Rubens Kuhl: @Kristina: more of a guess, but it looks to affect more the Public Forum type of activity. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Mary Wong: From what we hear, it seems tht remote participation via Adobe Connect should not be affected.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): Thanks Everyone...bye for now<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry): Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Christa Taylor: Thank-you!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Robert Burlingame (Pillsbury): Thank you everyone.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Susan Payne: bye<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): talk soon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">jorge cancio (GAC Switzerland): thanks to all and bye!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Alexander Schubert: bye<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Phil Buckingham: Thanks Avri , Jeff <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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