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--></style></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Well, it was bound to happen – with so many different email list available for this WG, someone was going to send a message to the wrong address. Unfortunately, it was me! However, I think it’s beneficial to get responses from so many different voices, so perhaps it’s a good mistake. For those considering weighing in, I’ll provide a bit of additional context. The default is to adjust all GNSO working group schedules when daylight savings adjustments having taken place in the majority of places where it’s observed, which for this year, will be 6 November. The change results in the UTC times being adjusted +1 hour (e.g., 0300 UTC becomes 0400 UTC, 1500UTC becomes 1600 UTC, etc.). If the region you’re in observes daylight savings, this would mean the local time for the meeting would remain unchanged (e.g., a meeting at 12:00 pm would continue to be at 12:00 pm). Of course, not all countries or regions observe daylight savings, which is why this debate was taking place within the leadership team.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>The main concern with this WG being an outlier to following this practice is that we increase the risk of conflicts with other GNSO meetings (including Stakeholder and Constituency meetings potentially). As a result, the staff recommendation has been, and remains, to follow the practice that other WGs are following. However, it is ultimately up to WG and its leadership to make the decision.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Please feel free to give me a hard time for my inadequate email skills in Hyderabad </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'>L</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:Calibri;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-family:Calibri;color:black'><gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Cecilia Smith <Cecilia.Smith@fox.com><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 8:12 PM<br><b>To: </b>Karen Day <Karen.Day@sas.com>, Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com><br><b>Cc: </b>"gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] [Gnso-newgtld-lead] - Time Shift Analysis<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>+1</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:Calibri;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-family:Calibri;color:black'><gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Karen Day <Karen.Day@sas.com><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 7:09 PM<br><b>To: </b>Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@gmail.com><br><b>Cc: </b>"gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] [Gnso-newgtld-lead] - Time Shift Analysis</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I will add my voice to the "do not adjust UTC" chorus here.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal>Best,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal>Karen<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Oct 27, 2016, at 9:58 PM, Cheryl Langdon-Orr <<a href="mailto:langdonorr@gmail.com">langdonorr@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Helvetica'>No Surprise I support Avri as well *after all* Like Avri I have been also saying exactly this for years now ;-) </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Helvetica'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Helvetica'>Anyway I am building my movement getting more support today from other participants in other meetings So if you keep hearing "just stick to UTC" a lot more in the near future this is why...</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='outline:0px;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inherit;border-spacing:0px'><tr style='outline:0px;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inherit'><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;outline:0px'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='vertical-align:baseline'><i><span style='font-size:24.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#674EA7'>C</span></i><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#674EA7'>heryl </span></i><i><span style='font-size:24.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#674EA7'>L</span></i><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#674EA7'>angdon-</span></i><i><span style='font-size:24.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#674EA7'>O</span></i><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#674EA7'>rr ... </span></i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#674EA7'>(CLO)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-top:2.25pt;font-style:inherit;outline:0px;font-weight:inherit'><p class=MsoNormal style='vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#2B82AD'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-top:2.25pt;font-style:inherit;outline:0px;font-weight:inherit'><p class=MsoNormal style='vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#2B82AD'>about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr><tr style='outline:0px;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inherit'><td valign=top style='padding:6.0pt 0in 0in 0in;outline:0px;font-style:inherit'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;background:#C5D0E0;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-family:"inherit","serif"'><img border=0 width=88 height=4 id="_x0000_i1025" src="http://d13pix9kaak6wt.cloudfront.net/signature/colorbar.png" alt="eryl Langdon-Orr on about.me"></span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:15.0pt;outline:0px;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inherit'><td valign=bottom style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;height:15.0pt;outline:0px;font-style:inherit'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:1.0pt;font-family:"inherit","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 28 October 2016 at 07:06, theo geurts <<a href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl" target="_blank">gtheo@xs4all.nl</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>100% with Avri on this.<br><br>UTC is a time saver ;)<span style='color:#888888'><br><br><span class=hoenzb>Theo</span></span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br>On 27-10-2016 21:30, avri doria wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Hi,<br><br>I am in favor of just sticking with UTC and not bothering with the<br>complexities of who is going in or out of DST at any time. I suggest<br>that for all WGs. and will suggest it for any group I am in.<br><br>avri<br><br><br><br>On 27-Oct-16 15:07, Steve Chan wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Hello All,<br><br> <br>I did some basic analysis to try and understand the impact of staying<br>on the same UTC time versus moving 1 hour forward on UTC (e.g., the<br>1500 UTC would be 1600 UTC). I’d say it’s inconclusive and at least to<span style='font-family:MingLiU'><br></span>me, not terribly surprising – it helps in some cases and hurts in<span style='font-family:PMingLiU'><br></span>others. When there are early meetings, adding an hour to the UTC helps<br>and when it’s evening or middle of the night, it generally makes<span style='font-family:MingLiU'><br></span>things worse. Unfortunately, I don’t think this gives us a clear path<span style='font-family:MingLiU'><br></span>forward, but it at least lets us see how it affects this particular WG<br>in certain regions of the world. I’ve highlighted the most difficult<span style='font-family:MingLiU'><br></span>meetings times in red.<span style='font-family:MingLiU'><br><br></span> <span style='font-family:MingLiU'><br></span>Note, this analysis would be as of 7 November, so to the extent that<span style='font-family:MingLiU'><br></span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__timeanddate.com&d=DQMFAg&c=uw6TLu4hwhHdiGJOgwcWD4AjKQx6zvFcGEsbfiY9-EI&r=Cj2fRMHQkFqo4RUcEAISjMwswofq8qtY6Gpyb2xbA0M&m=v8A5QSKtxni0dyzl83A9QOTKz9mqFmqdAY9sBq5nIjM&s=WIx_fSqTFTcnJACv5XYRtQvOU3iOTDrBedrgNj1gBTI&e=" target="_blank">timeanddate.com</a> accurately captures what regions observe daylight<br>savings, that factor should be taken into account.<br><br> <br>Best,<br><br>Steve<br><br> <br> <br> <br>*Steven Chan*<span style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>
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