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<b><u><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday</span></u></b><b><u><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">, 27 February 2017</span></u></b></p>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group call on Monday, 27 February 2017 at 15:00 UTC.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:Wiki page: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_l7HDAw&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=lCZpXSsmq-3jebCIF2JpTfRPsY0ivieQ6pMnGj6-23k&s=fEpFUJqS-qOs1k6hRMWyuuT1Ri6khsJEpuTWJzr6pqo&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_l7HDAw&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=lCZpXSsmq-3jebCIF2JpTfRPsY0ivieQ6pMnGj6-23k&s=fEpFUJqS-qOs1k6hRMWyuuT1Ri6khsJEpuTWJzr6pqo&e=</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alexander Schubert:At the top there is "Attendees" - to the right of it a drop down menue! There "Ediit" - and you can change the name!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> vanda scartezini:hi all carnival here. lots of noise, will be just listen the call. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Sara Bockey:Perfect!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:Not today... </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> avri doria:especially during carnival week</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:@Vanda: I applaud your devotion to duty :-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:For I would be at least looking out the window!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:Avri, baby is making more noise than the carnival folks. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):ahh Carnival and sleeping babies.. not easy to manage Rubens... good luck </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Gg Levine (NABP):Was WT3 strawman proposal provided?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Emily Barabas:WT 4 is scheduled to have a call on Monday 6 March at 15:00 UTC</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Chan:There is actually a WT4 call scheduled for 6 Mar at 15000 UTC. It was moved up in the week so that it could take place, hopefully before everyone departs. If it ends up not working out, it can of course
be cancelled.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael Flemming:Not at all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):ok Steve noted</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Gg Levine (NABP):Great idea, Avri.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Justine Chew:+1 Avri. Or insert a glossary section.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alexander Schubert:There is an echo!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael Flemming:Susan, can you mute your speakers?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alexander Schubert:Maybe a speaker not muted?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:not my speaker</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Arshad Mohammed:I hear echo too</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael Flemming:Oh, sorry.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):it certainly did cause concerns Susan </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alexander Schubert:Everybody not speaking simply muting the mike, please.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:ok, thanks Steve</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> jeff neuman:Perhaps we can add a sentence on the terminology. I can work on that.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael Flemming:rogue speaker</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):s note, makes sense Avri </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:I put in some risks.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Agree with that result, Avri.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Chan:If anyone else would like to review in the Google doc, it's available here: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1iZBCVEAJPBYEDg7jLsMHKkNczR-5Fb6-2DjH2Wl5eVH-2DWWM_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=lCZpXSsmq-3jebCIF2JpTfRPsY0ivieQ6pMnGj6-23k&s=frTED3Kc2vFY60Fn7ysCMlx7l2OfE56moRizXOXnsKI&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1iZBCVEAJPBYEDg7jLsMHKkNczR-5Fb6-2DjH2Wl5eVH-2DWWM_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=lCZpXSsmq-3jebCIF2JpTfRPsY0ivieQ6pMnGj6-23k&s=frTED3Kc2vFY60Fn7ysCMlx7l2OfE56moRizXOXnsKI&e=</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> jeff neuman:Or maybe we accidentally deleted it</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:I prefer the elimination of the single model answer.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:We should not be amatuer antitirust economists.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:amateur</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:I practiced antitrust law for 12 years, so I am particularly sensitive to doing this.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> jeff neuman:Greg - The WG has done some thiking on this issue and it would be good to let everyone know why we are discussing this issue</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> jeff neuman:Greg - I will work withyou</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Will you provide model answers for the other questions?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Why is this question different from all other questions?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> jeff neuman: @Greg, i see it more as providing context for why we are asking the question.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:OK</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> jeff neuman:but yes, lets take offline</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:That OK was for Avri.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> jeff neuman:So, I am fine with removing</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):As someone who is currently going through the Material Subcontracting Arrangement Assignment process, the lesson I'm learning is that we really need an RSP accreditation/certification
program.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alexander Schubert:Too far away from the mike!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alexander Schubert:Can't hear you!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:If we are confused in what the question means, the community will be more confused. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> jeff neuman:Agree with Rubens, lets make sure we note that</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Trang Nguyen:1.1.10 seems to assume that the RSP program would be structured like the existing pre-del testing?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Christa Taylor:Sounds like a good add</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> jeff neuman:Trang, I agree that it makes that assumption, so we can clarify the question</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> jeff neuman:to take out that assumption</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jorge Cancio (GAC Switzerland):on the applicant support: couln't there be an open 1.2.4. question requesting any other suggestions for improving it?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):that could be useful Jorge</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):Picking up on Jorge's suggestion, shouldn't we add an open "any other comments on this topic" question for every subtopic? </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):agree @Avri re terms definitely</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):definition </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jorge Cancio (GAC Switzerland):makes, sense, Kristina</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yup</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> jeff neuman:Hard to understand Kavuoss</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Trang Nguyen:Application changes are sometimes needed for applicants to address issues raised against their applications, for example to address GAC early warning.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Gg Levine (NABP):Apologies -- I need to drop off early for another call.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jorge Cancio (GAC Switzerland):Good points from Greg in distinguishing the concept from its implementation</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> jeff neuman:I think i understand the points Greg raised, but we could use Greg's help to restructure the questions</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rubens Kuhl:I also have to drop early. Looking forward for the transcript if one is planned, or hearing the recording if not. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> jeff neuman:@Greg - ICANN has not been permitted to comingle the newgtld funds and ICANN's overall funds</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> vanda scartezini:will need to drop in 5 minutes. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristina Rosette (Amazon Registry):They are true. Application fees don't go into reserve, as I understand it.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:My comments assume that "cost recovery" was in fact the basis of the pricing. I think that's right but I can't cite a source.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> jeff neuman:Cost recovery was indeed the principle, but it was based on a guess as to what the costs would be</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jorge Cancio (GAC Switzerland):Regarding agenda item 5: I would like to reiterate my apologies for missing the Copenhagen sessions of this PDP WG. Unfortunately they conflict with important GAC (or GAC-led) sessions.
Maybe in future meetings we would need to allow for compatibility of schedules with key PDP WG meetings, such as this PDP...</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:To the Notes: "lobbying may have been included"</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Christa Taylor:i.e. people were concerned if the cost recovery fees were too low or too high</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):that would be great Jorge I am also conflicted a lot but have been able to prioritise WG s best I can </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> jeff neuman:Ok, lets remove the word "strict"</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Christa Taylor:i.e. no other activities would be included to increase the price over some minimum</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:We should clarify that we are talking about TYPES of costs and not AMOUNTS of costs.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:@Jorge, thank you and understood. Unfortunately, as you know, conflicts are unavoidable - for the GNSO PDPs, the first day (Saturday) was set aside so that each of the three most recent PDPs (including
this one) could have a 3-hour face to face meeting, but the GAC is also having meetings through Saturday. For the Wednesday meetings, the GNSO sessions had to be scheduled to take into account staff support and other conflicting sessions, and again, unfortunately,
the GAC has sessions throughout that day as well.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Christa Taylor:agree to the removal of 'strict'</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Wow. I didn't get that implication at all, from the text.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Christa Taylor:thanks! The gap between cost recovery and application fee - but will work on re-wording. My apologies.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Phil Buckingham:agree remove strict , but add in a fixed and variable cost recovery fee ? </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Christa Taylor:Thanks Greg....point taken. Will work on adding the background/implications</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> jeff neuman:Thanks Greg.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> jeff neuman:agree</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jorge Cancio (GAC Switzerland):@Mary: thanks for that info. And, yes, sure I understand. Just saying that for key PDPs as this one a treatment akin to "high interest topics" or "cross-comm meetings" would be sensible
if we want other parts of the community attending and actively participating</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Apologies for many comments....</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alexander Schubert:Why LOWERING? It should be higher! Otherwise we get swamped by gTLD tasters and investors trying to capitalize on private auctions (which should be prohibited in the first place).</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Agree -- that clarification makes sense -- that it's about the length of the window.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:@Jorge, cross community discussion topics and high interest topics are for the community to suggest :) :)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Christa Taylor:Perhaps 'first submitted'</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):good point Jeff </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Laura Watkins (Nominet):Agress Crista or "in irde</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jorge Cancio (GAC Switzerland):@Mary: yes... in would be interesting to include under such HITs meetings such as the key PDP F2F - which could at times be more useful than an ad hoc meeting on a given topic</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Laura Watkins (Nominet):order of receipt</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alexander Schubert:Order of receipt leads to benefiting portfolio applicants who submit run of the mill applications!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Laura Watkins (Nominet):Alexander - I meant as an alternative phrase to replace "1st come 1st served"</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> jeff neuman:I believe we should eliminate question 1.7.3</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jorge Cancio (GAC Switzerland):please be mindful of the IGF Open consultations and MAG meeting covering Wednesday to Friday this week</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> avri doria:apologies if i went through too slowly.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:1700 - 1830</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jorge Cancio (GAC Switzerland):@jeff/@avri: on ICANN 58 I guess GAC Sec will approach you to invite you (and any interested WG members) to the GAC sessions on new gTLDs</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:New gTLD Program Reviews (general): Monday 13 March at 13.45</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> avri doria:yes Jorge, think we have received the invitation. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> avri doria:we == Jeff and I. since they are open meetings all members should look at particpating.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jorge Cancio (GAC Switzerland):indeed, open door policy continues...</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):thanks everyone bye for now then... </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Katrin Ohlmer, DOTZON:thanks, all - bye!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jorge Cancio (GAC Switzerland):thanks all and bye!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Carlton Samuels:Thanks all!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> vanda scartezini:thanks you all</div>
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<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> vanda scartezini:could make till the end - good meeting</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Phil Buckingham:thanks Avri .</div>
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