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<p class="MsoNormal">Jon,<o:p></o:p></p>
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I will be discussing this with the leadership team later tonight on our weekly call. But with respect to the discussion below that applies to what we discussed on yesterday’s call and making sure we are on the same page with respect to what was discussed in
the Work Track and what was reflected in the Initial Report for section 1.8.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Redlines are coming out today to the full group. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0F9347">Jeffrey J. Neuman</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0F9347">Senior Vice President </span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#4F4F4F">|</span><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#C39209">Valideus
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#4F4F4F">@Jintlaw<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Jon Nevett <jon@donuts.email> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 19, 2018 11:11 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br>; Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman@lrrc.com>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] FW: Proposed agenda - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 18 June 2018 at 15:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There are a number of examples, like this one, where I am hearing about last minute proposed improvements to the report. We should have the time in Panama to go through theses changes vs. on the fly now. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I propose that we consider and make any final clarifications/improvements in Panama. We should lock down the report after Panama and then send it out for public comment. Locking it down before Panama would only prevent us from making final
clarifications and improvements necessitating comments on stale or incorrect language. Wouldn't we be better off getting comments on a better version?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thx. <o:p></o:p></p>
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On Jun 19, 2018, at 7:40 AM, Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">All,<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think we can find a way to incorporate Kristina and Anne's comments because upon thinking about this, they are correct. Although the Guidebook uses the term "infringe" many times, technically, the Guidebook does not use an "infringement"
standard in the supporting text. Perhaps generalizing the text to just ask if the standard that was applied was the correct one. So how about this:<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Should the standard for the Legal Rights Objection remain the same as in the 2012 round? Please explain.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And we drop a footnote quoting section 3.5.2 in full as Anne did below.<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Does that work?<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jeffrey J. Neuman<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Senior Vice President |Valideus USA | Com Laude USA<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1751 Pinnacle Drive, Suite 600<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Mclean, VA 22102, United States<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">E: <a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@valideus.com">jeff.neuman@valideus.com</a> or
<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</a> <span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">
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<p class="MsoNormal">T: +1.703.635.7514<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">M: +1.202.549.5079<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">@Jintlaw<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl<br>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 10:26 PM<br>
To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com">AAikman@lrrc.com</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] FW: Proposed agenda - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 18 June 2018 at 15:00 UTC<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The policy reads "Strings must not infringe the existing legal rights of others that are recognized or enforceable under generally accepted and internationally recognized principles of law."<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(Source: <a href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/new-gtlds/pdp-dec05-fr-parta-08aug07.htm">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Anything different than that, including AGB which was supposed to be its implementation when it does not follow policy, is a change of GNSO policy.<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It also doesn't work picking 1 AGB reference when other 3 references in AGB say exactly what the GNSO policy says. We can't just pick references that go to one view and not the others from the same document.<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> On 18 Jun 2018, at 23:00, Aikman-Scalese, Anne <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com">AAikman@lrrc.com</a>> wrote:<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> This is definitely not a “change in policy” that Kristina and I are suggesting. The clear language of the AGB which codifies the grounds for the LRO is at 3.5.2 as follows:<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> 3.5.2 Legal Rights Objection<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> In interpreting and giving meaning to GNSO Recommendation 3 (“Strings
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<p class="MsoNormal">> must not infringe the existing legal rights of others that are
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<p class="MsoNormal">> recognized or enforceable under generally accepted and internationally
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<p class="MsoNormal">> recognized principles of law”), a DRSP panel of experts presiding over
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<p class="MsoNormal">> a legal rights objection will determine whether the potential use of
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<p class="MsoNormal">> the applied-for gTLD by the applicant takes unfair advantage of the
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<p class="MsoNormal">> distinctive character or the reputation of the objector’s registered
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<p class="MsoNormal">> or unregistered trademark or service mark (“mark”) or IGO name or
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<p class="MsoNormal">> of the objector’s mark or IGO name or acronym, or otherwise creates an
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<p class="MsoNormal">> the objector’s mark or IGO name or acronym.<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Of Counsel<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> 520.629.4428 office<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> 520.879.4725 fax<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> <a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com">AAikman@lrrc.com</a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> _____________________________<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Lewis Roca Rothgerber Christie LLP<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> One South Church Avenue, Suite 2000<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> <a href="http://lrrc.com">lrrc.com</a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> From: Rubens Kuhl [<a href="mailto:rubensk@nic.br">mailto:rubensk@nic.br</a>]<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 6:06 PM<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Cc: Rosette, Kristina; <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">
gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] FW: Proposed agenda - New gTLD
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 18 June 2018 at 15:00 UTC<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Anne and Kristina,<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> While we can reckon the actual standard used in 2012, we can't simply
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<p class="MsoNormal">> ignore that we have<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> - The current applicable GNSO Recommendation (3) saying infringement<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> - Three AGB references using infringement<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> 3.2.1 Grounds for Objection<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Legal Rights Objection – The applied-for gTLD string infringes the existing legal rights of the objector.<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> 3.2.2.2 Legal Rights Objection A rightsholder has standing to file a legal rights objection. The source and documentation of the existing legal rights the objector is claiming (which may include either registered or unregistered trademarks)
are infringed by the applied-for gTLD must be included in the filing.<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Attachment to Module 3<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Article 2 (e) (ii)<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> “Existing Legal Rights Objection” refers to the objection that the
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<p class="MsoNormal">> string comprising the potential new gTLD infringes the existing legal
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<p class="MsoNormal">> rights of others<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> (not counting 3.5.2, where infringement is redefined to the criteria
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<p class="MsoNormal">> actually used)<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> That means that in order to keep 2012 status-quo, the policy recommendation needs to be changed and AGB also needs to be changed.<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> What I find curious is that ICANN's own Program Implementation Review failed to acknowledge this deviation from policy, and we probably need to state that somehow. Even if the PDP finds that it was for the better, and it looks that way
to me, we shouldn't miss the learning that this mistake provided.<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Rubens<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> On 18 Jun 2018, at 19:07, Aikman-Scalese, Anne <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com">AAikman@lrrc.com</a>> wrote:<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> I support Kristina’s comments shown in the attachment and note that she also states in her comment on page 10 that the LRO in 2012 was not an “infringement” standard. Kristina suggests in the attachment that we simply refer to the “standard
used in 2012” if we are not willing to set out the three grounds set forth in the AGB and copied again below.<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> This same reference to “infringement analysis” occurs on page 15 of draft Section 1.8 so the language there should be conformed to the language chosen for page 10.<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Again, the standard for LRO from 2012 is as follows:<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> As provided for in section 3.5.2 of the ICANN Applicant Guidebook, the independent panel will determine whether the potential use of the applied-for gTLD by the applicant:<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> (i) takes unfair advantage of the distinctive character or the reputation of the objector’s registered or unregistered trademark or service mark (“mark”) or IGO name or acronym, or<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> (ii) unjustifiably impairs the distinctive character or the reputation of the objector’s mark or IGO name or acronym, or<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> (iii) otherwise creates an impermissible likelihood of confusion between the applied-for gTLD and the objector’s mark or IGO name or acronym.<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> <span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Anne<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Anne E. Aikman-Scalese<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Of Counsel<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> 520.629.4428 office<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> 520.879.4725 fax<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> <a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com">AAikman@lrrc.com</a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> _____________________________<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Lewis Roca Rothgerber Christie LLP<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> One South Church Avenue, Suite 2000<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> <a href="http://lrrc.com">lrrc.com</a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> From: Gnso-newgtld-wg [<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] On
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Behalf Of Rosette, Kristina via Gnso-newgtld-wg<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 7:52 AM<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> To: <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] FW: Proposed agenda - New gTLD Subsequent
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Procedures PDP WG - 18 June 2018 at 15:00 UTC<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> This time with attachment. Apologies.<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> From: Rosette, Kristina<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 10:51 AM<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> To: <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Cc: 'Steve Chan' <<a href="mailto:steve.chan@icann.org">steve.chan@icann.org</a>><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Proposed agenda - New gTLD Subsequent
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Procedures PDP WG - 18 June 2018 at 15:00 UTC<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> My comments and suggestions on 1.8 attached.<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> From: Gnso-newgtld-wg [<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] On
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Behalf Of Steve Chan<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 1:25 PM<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> To: <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Proposed agenda - New gTLD Subsequent
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Procedures PDP WG - 18 June 2018 at 15:00 UTC<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Dear WG Members,<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> With apologies for the late delivery, please find the proposed agenda for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures WG meeting scheduled for 18 June 2018 at 15:00 UTC, for 90 minutes.<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> • Agenda Review<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> • Roll Call/SOIs<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> • Review of the Initial Report (continued). * The purpose of this review is to ensure that preliminary outcomes and deliberations are accurately captured and written in an understandable manner. The WG Co-Chairs have sought to
make clear that this exercise is not intended to re-open substantive discussions, which is better served by the submission of public comments and subsequently when reviewing public comments received. Please submit your comments about these sections to the
Working Group mailing list (<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a>) in advance of the meeting.<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> • Review of Section 1.8 (Accountability Mechanisms)<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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