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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Rubens,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I honestly don’t know how you can say that this was not discussed in the Work Track and was only mentioned by me. You are essentially forcing me to copy and
paste the language from the email I had attached into this email - to document something which is very clear from the November 30 call. Below I highlight in bold the relevant language regarding the issues raised and the fact that Kurt Pritz was also vocal
about this. (Further, even if Kurt had not chimed in, the fact that only one person raises an issue for discussion and public comment does not mean it can be roundly ignored. )<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#C00000">Copied and pasted from my confirming email from the November 30 which was circulated to the Work Track 4 list several times:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">“Items as to which we, as members of the WT 4 group, had input during the call include:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">At 15 minutes into the call, discussion of policy regarding
</span></b><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#C00000">aggregated technical evaluation should not affect order of processing applications</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">,
subject to the policy-making recommendations of Work Track ___ “as much as feasible (and consistent the order of processing of applications as recommended by Work Track X”. This concept was supported vocally by Kurt Pritz at 18 minutes into the call and
said “Additional technical evaluation should not retard or slow down applications….they should retain their place in queue and should not be penalized in any way from a timing standpoint”. Kurt did not like the “as much as feasible” language either. He said
it was too vague as policy language.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">At 27 minutes into the call – Registry Services Slide</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
(Slide 8?) – Clarify the issue Still to Be Defined – “</span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#C00000">whether a new gTLD applicant should be required to disclose new services at the time of application</span></b><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">”.</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
Cheryl said this additional bullet is at 34 min into the call. Cheryl also confirms in this discussion that there are in fact three Straw models still under discussion on this question and that this can be clarified in the slides. (The second bullet
point is misleading in that it states that RSEP is “<u>the</u> tool” (emphasis added) for proposing new services. This implies a consensus that RSEP trumps the existing policy that requires disclosure of proposed new services in a new gTLD application.)
Nowhere in the slides is there a reference to the discussion re the three Straw models. Thus, this is an issue “Still To Be Defined”. As per Cheryl’s comment, “This is clearly being marked out as work still to be done.” Maxim also points out in chat that
RSEP is only for registries that have a Registry Agreement and might not be so for Applicants.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Gnso-newgtld-wg [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rubens Kuhl<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 19, 2018 7:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - Initial Report<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The attached email was about call #21, Registry Services, as I mentioned before, not about Aggregated Evaluation. And that's exactly what drove the registry services outcome that was discussed in San Juan and later published in the report. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So, I still don't see any evidence of anyone besides you making that point on aggregated technical (or financial) evaluation. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 19 Jun 2018, at 21:20, Aikman-Scalese, Anne <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com">AAikman@lrrc.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In order to refresh your memory, please see attached email with references to the specific minute of the mp3 recording for each issue.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Rubens
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, June 19, 2018 5:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Aikman-Scalese, Anne<br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Jeff Neuman;<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org"><span style="color:purple">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - Initial Report</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 19 Jun 2018, at 20:48, Aikman-Scalese, Anne <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com"><span style="color:purple">AAikman@lrrc.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red">See comments inline. If these issues are not raised in the Initial Report, the discussions that occurred in Work Track 4 are not accurately reflected. (See especially
the mp3 of the November 30 call and my follow up emails in January and February citing to the exact minute of the mp3 recording.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Anne, while you are focused on the report, I referred to the actual substantive discussions in WT4. I'll let staff and co-chairs answer anything related to the report, which was not the focus of my responses. <o:p></o:p></p>
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2.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Disclosure of New Services at the Time of Application</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">.
Regarding the portion of the draft report that deals with disclosure of new services at the time of application, Question 23 of the existing application requires that all new services proposed be described, including any security and stability issues that
may be associated with that. The initial draft report skipped over this issue that was clearly raised in Work Track 4 and talked about the flexibility to propose new services either at the application stage or later on in the RSEP process (even if known
at the time of application). As mentioned, there are “trade-offs” here in relation to opportunities for Objections and Evaluations and these should be highlighted for public comment.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Actually, it is quite the opposite. What is said there is that applicants would be able to disclose services at application time even if not submitting them to evaluation, increasing opportunity for Objections. <span style="color:#1F497D"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="color:red">There
is no point in arguing this difference of opinion further. The 2012 round application Question 23 REQUIRES disclosure of all services at the time of application. This is not optional “would be able” disclosure. That’s why the draft does not reflect the
discussion in Work Track 4. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I mentioned above how the WT4 outcome described how it could be done, not how 2012 round was done, which is only part of the report. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:red">The draft says it’s optional and does not highlight the issue discussed in Work Track 4 which I have raised and documented multiple times. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It's actually silent on that, and others also didn't take that language as saying that, as you probably remember. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">3.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Aggregated
Technical and Financial Evaluations</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">. There was discussion in Work Track 4 about not putting applications that propose new and innovative services at a disadvantage
as to timing of contract award based on the fact that these could not be processed as quickly. The purpose of the new gTLD program is innovation. Again, there are “trade-offs” here. This question falls into the category of items as to which there has been
no coordination among the Work Tracks. While this may not have been the responsibility of Work Track 4 per se, that does not mean it is not a concern and does not mean it was not discussed. I am not the only person in the Work Track who mentioned this problem.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There is a fundamental difference between evaluation processing and results publishing. WT4 only addressed the first part; if a result is ready but due to the application sequencing it's publishing is not yet timely, then it won't be published.
The process is not meant to be a waterfall, but a series of parallel efforts that have some control points, and any fairness issue is address at those control points. <span style="color:#1F497D"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="color:red">I
and others expressed concern about the effect of this aggregation on time of processing applications in Work Track 4. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Actually not; only in Registry Services other have mentioned that, regarding aggregation of evaluations. <o:p></o:p></p>
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