<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Thanks for your reply, Jeff.<br><br>Just on my first question, yes, I don't disagree with your explanation, but I did want to, if possible, establish the intent to the consequence of being found to have engaged in non-acceptable forms of private resolution. Post AGB, additional statuses for applications were introduced during implementation phase, for eg. "Not Approved". <br><br>As mentioned before, "withdrawing" implies to me a choice by the applicant, and in fact the "withdrawn" status explicitly states so at </div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><a href="https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/advisories/application-contention-set-14mar14-en">https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/advisories/application-contention-set-14mar14-en</a>. Hence I was concerned about the ramification around choice by the applicant, not to mention any 'rights' as to refunds. <br><br>I wonder if the term "non-approval" might be an appropriate alternative to "withdrawing", although I'm not sure if "non-approval" will then raise further complications to the AGB as drafted.</div><br>Justine Chew <br>-----</div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 02:34, Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Your questions are good ones. On the first one, I believe ICANN only uses the terms “withdrawn” or “shall not proceed” in the Guidebook. I don’t believe the word termination is used in connection with an application. So, that is why
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<p class="MsoNormal">On the second question the agreement/contract is the ICANN Registry Agreement and I agree with you that we should make it more clear in both parts of that sentence.
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">A third option a Working Group Member proposed was allowing certain types of private resolutions, but disallowing others. For example, as discussed in several sections of the Initial Report and in this Supplemental Initial Report,
many Working Group members favored allowing applicants in a contention set to change their applied-for-string if that change is mutually agreed by the members of the contention set and the newly changes strings (a) were reasonably related to the original applications
and (b) did not move the applicants’ newly selected strings into a different contention set. Under this option, the Working Group member proposed that changes would need to be approved by ICANN. <span style="color:red">Another Working Group member noted
that under this option, any proposed newly selected string that ICANN intended to approve would need to be (a) subject to name collision risk assessment, (b) put out for public comment and (c) open to established Objection procedures</span>. <span style="background:yellow">
If parties are found to have engaged in non-acceptable forms of private resolution, that will result in (a) withdrawing of an application – if an agreement was not signed by the time it is discovered, or (b) forfeiture of the registry (if after a contract
is signed). </span>Some members of the Working Group, however, were not comfortable in putting ICANN in a position of approving (or disapproving) mechanisms of private resolution. <u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">1) If parties are found to have engaged in non-acceptable forms of private resolution, that will result in withdrawing of an application. Should it not result in a termination or dismissal of an application?
"Withdrawing" implies that the applicant has a choice, or is that what was intended by author of this text and/or WG? <br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 09, 2018 9:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Aikman-Scalese, Anne; <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">
gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ext] RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Proposed agenda - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 8 October 2018 at 15:00 UTC</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Dear Anne, apologies, the email below was sitting unsent. Below is confirmation that your suggestion was integrated, but also a questions/suggestion
for your and the WG’s consideration.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Your suggestion has been added to the working draft, although I wonder if this is more applicable to the section on change requests, where the topic
of string changes is talked about more fully? Specifically, it might make sense to add to this block of text in section 1.4.d instead (or in addition?):</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt">Implementation Guidance: Some examples to consider in allowing for a new string to be selected include prepending/appending a new element to the original string or selecting a string that is closely related to the class/sector
of the original string. ICANN org must perform a re-evaluation of the new applied-for string in all string related evaluation elements (e.g., DNS Stability, String Contention, etc.) and the application for the new string would be subject to string related
objections (e.g., String Confusion Objections, Legal Rights Objections, etc.). The applicant may be responsible for additional, material costs incurred by ICANN due to re-evaluation and the application could be subject to delay.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Best,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Steve</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 8:35 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Steve Chan <<a href="mailto:steve.chan@icann.org" target="_blank">steve.chan@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="m_-8481554119112343746_m_-1052218365761421088_m_647003791499525"><span style="color:#1f497d">Thanks Steve. As mentioned on yesterday’s call, I have comments and language for the last bullet
point under 1.2 (d). After considering this language more carefully, please see the following change in red:</span></a><u></u><u></u></p>
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A third option a Working Group Member proposed was allowing certain types of private resolutions, but disallowing others. For example, as discussed in several sections of the Initial Report and in this Supplemental Initial Report, many Working Group members
favored allowing applicants in a contention set to change their applied-for-string if that change is mutually agreed by the members of the contention set and the newly changes strings (a) were reasonably related to the original applications and (b) did not
move the applicants’ newly selected strings into a different contention set. Under this option, the Working Group member proposed that changes would need to be approved by ICANN. <span style="color:red">Another Working Group member noted that under this
option, any proposed newly selected string that ICANN intended to approve would need to be (a) subject to name collision risk assessment, (b) put out for public comment and (c) open to established Objection procedures</span>. If parties are found to have
engaged in non-acceptable forms of private resolution, that will result in (a) withdrawing of an application – if an agreement was not signed by the time it is discovered, or (b) forfeiture of the registry (if after a contract is signed). Some members of the
Working Group, however, were not comfortable in putting ICANN in a position of approving (or disapproving) mechanisms of private resolution.<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Proposed agenda - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 8 October 2018 at 15:00 UTC</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="color:black">Please find the proposed agenda for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG meeting scheduled for<span class="m_-8481554119112343746m-1052218365761421088m6470037914995251782apple-converted-space"> </span>8 October<span class="m_-8481554119112343746m-1052218365761421088m6470037914995251782apple-converted-space"> </span>2018
at<span class="m_-8481554119112343746m-1052218365761421088m6470037914995251782apple-converted-space"> </span>15:00 UTC, for 90 minutes.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span class="m_-8481554119112343746m-1052218365761421088m6470037914995251782apple-converted-space">Supplemental Report: Review of sections 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, and 1.5 continued</span><u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black">
<span class="m_-8481554119112343746m-1052218365761421088m6470037914995251782apple-converted-space">Planning for ICANN63</span><u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black">
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<span style="color:black">For agenda item 2, please find the latest draft, which accepted all red-lined edits made prior to the 2 October meeting (you can find that draft here:
</span><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/4QirBQ" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/x/4QirBQ</a><span style="color:black">). As it was anticipated that changes would be non-trivial, it was believed that accepting red-lines prior to making new
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