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    <p>A belated thanks to Anne for providing the links below. I am
      reviewing them before our meeting today -- and suggest that
      everyone should. We don't want to "recreate the wheel" and it
      turns out that a lot of the issues we are discussing and debating
      have already been reviewed by the GNSO Council -- and steps taken.
      For those of us who were focused on other things at the time
      (including me!), thanks to Anne for posting these links and
      sharing your insights and expertise as a participant in these
      processes.</p>
    <p>Tx to all for reading over these materials before our meeting! 
      They are not long and they are well-written.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Best, Kathy<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/30/2019 8:35 PM, Aikman-Scalese,
      Anne wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#993366">Hi Kathy – I
            want to preface my comments below with the statement that I
            personally support the “general agreement” Initial Report
            preliminary recommendation for a “Standing IRT”.  I do not
            support changing the name to anything other than
            “Post-launch IRT” since the term IRT is well-defined in GNSO
            Operating Procedures in a manner that is designed to
            guarantee oversight and transparency.  It is also referenced
            in the Consensus Policy Implementation Framework which is
            integrated with existing GNSO Input and Guidance procedures
            designed to address issues arising both pre-launch and
            post-launch.  (Significantly, public comment was obtained in
            relation to a “Standing IRT” and not in relation to any
            other entity so renaming the entity is not at all likely to
            “eliminate confusion”.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#993366"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#993366">The issues you
            have raised below are EXACTLY the issues and concerns
            reviewed at length by the Policy and Implementation Working
            Group using “real life” examples from the 2012 round post
            launch.  Thus, Annex L of the GNSO Policy&
            Implementation Working Group Final Report specifies the
            following
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#993366">IRT Principles
            and Guidelines:   <a
href="https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/2016-12/irt-principles-guidelines-23aug16-en.pdf"
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/2016-12/irt-principles-guidelines-23aug16-en.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#993366"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#993366">Whether it is a
            “Pre-launch IRT” or a “Post-launch IRT”, and whether the
            issue that arises is characterized by some as “policy” and
            by others as “implementation”, the same principles of
            oversight and transparency should apply.   IN THIS REGARD,
            PLEASE SEE V. E. OF THE IRT PRINCIPLES AND GUIDELINES which
            applies<b> “In the event of disagreement between ICANN Staff
              and the IRT or any of its members on the
              <span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">implementation
                approach</span> proposed by ICANN staff…”
            </b>and goes on to define the role of the GNSO liaison in
            that event<b>.</b>   In other words, a “Post-launch IRT”  by
            any other name should still be a post-launch IRT as to which
            the same Principles and Guidelines apply.  Otherwise, the
            community risks losing the GNSO Council oversight system
            which is currently baked into the Operating Procedures and
            the ByLaws. 
            <b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#993366"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#993366">If I represent
            registry or registrar interests, I want a faster solution to
            my implementation issues and problems.  That is
            understandable because time (delay) is money (poor cash flow
            and balance sheet).    But again, one person’s
            “Implementation” is another person’s “Policy” and this is
            why the Sub Pro WG has to be very careful when addressing
            subjects like the Predictability Framework as well as some
            other recommendations coming later in relation to ICANN
            Org’s power/ability to resolve implementation issues
            post-launch. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#993366"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#993366">For anyone
              interested in a deeper understanding of how the existing
              GNSO Annexes apply to issues that arise during
              implementation, please see the IRT Principles and
              Guidelines above as well as the links to GNSO Input and
              GNSO Guidance below:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#993366"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#993366">GNSO Input
            Process Manual - <a
href="https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/annex-3-input-process-manual-18jun18-en.pdf"
              moz-do-not-send="true">
https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/annex-3-input-process-manual-18jun18-en.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#993366"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
              style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">GNSO
              Input Process (GIP) Introduction</span></b><span
            style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: 
             A GIP is the process through which the
            <span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">GNSO
              provides input on matters that may not involve gTLD policy</span>,
            for example in response to a request from the ICANN Board or
            in response to a public comment forum as further described
            in this GIP Manual. Any such requests should include as much
            information as possible. A GIP may be initiated by the GNSO
            Council at any time it considers appropriate, for example,
            when a request for GNSO input is received from the ICANN
            Board or other entity that does not involve the creation of
            new obligations for ICANN contracted parties and does not
            relate to a topic otherwise suitable for a GNSO Policy
            Development Process or GNSO Guidance Process, for example
            providing GNSO Input to a public comment forum.</span><span
            style="color:#993366"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#993366"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#993366">GNSO Guidance
            Manual - <a
href="https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/annex-5-ggp-manual-18jun18-en.pdf"
              moz-do-not-send="true">
https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/annex-5-ggp-manual-18jun18-en.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#993366"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#993366"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
              style="font-size:17.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">GNSO
              Guidance Process Manual</span></b><b><span
              style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">1.GGP
              Manual –Introduction</span></b><span
            style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">:
             These guidelines and processes supplement the requirements
            for GGPs described in Annex D of the ICANN Bylaws [include
            link]. A GGP may be initiated by the GNSO Council when a
            request for input relating to gTLDs
            <span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">(either
              a new issue or in relation to previous policy
              recommendations)</span> has been received from the ICANN
            Board or a gTLD issue has been identified by the GNSO
            Council that would benefit from GNSO Guidance, and it has
            determined that the intended outcome of the GGP is not
            expected to create new “Consensus Policy” recommendations
            including, but not limited to, any new contractual
            obligations for contracted parties (in which case a PDP
            would need to be initiated). However, <span
              style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">the GGP may
              provide interpretation or assist in providing clarity with
              regards to the implementation of GNSO policy
              recommendations</span>. The GGP should not be used as a
            tool to reopen a previously explored policy issue only
            because a constituency or stakeholder group was not
            satisfied with outcome of a previously held process on the
            same policy issue, unless the circumstances have changed
            and/or new information is available</span><span
            style="color:#993366"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#993366"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#993366">Anne<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
                style="color:windowtext"> Kathy Kleiman
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com">mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>]
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 30, 2019 3:29 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Aikman-Scalese, Anne
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com"><AAikman@lrrc.com></a>; Julie Hedlund
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org"><julie.hedlund@icann.org></a>;
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                <b>Cc:</b> Jeff Neuman <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com"><jeff.neuman@comlaude.com></a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: Notes and Action Items - New gTLD
                Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 30 April 2019<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p>Jeff, Anne and All<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>In response to Jeff's question of last night, and also to
          Anne's email below, part of the problem here is that an IRT
          does not define its own policy issues.  Pre-launch IRTs are
          expressly not allowed to do that and now, thanks to  your work
          Anne, there are ways to enforce against overreach.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>But the Standing IRT or the Post-Launch IRT is being designed
          expressly to handle unforeseen issues from soup to nuts -- and
          that's a problem from a structural and procedural perspective.
          In Round 1, unanticipated issues dotted New gTLD landscape: a
          flood of GAC warnings, digital archery, voluntary commitments
          being thrown into contracts without review, and more.  Many of
          these issues required policy decisions. As we discussed and
          confirmed last night, a standing IRT or a post-launch IRT
          can't make policy. 
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>This leaves open the larger question of what issues would
          fall under the IRT(s) and how the policy issues will be
          identified, analyzed, assessed and handled?<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>Some more specific questions come to mind:<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>1) How do we create a Gateway -- a group which screens
          incoming issues for whether they are policy or not?  We have
          to be very careful here.  This group must include members of
          the GNSO Council, the group charged with oversight of the
          policy policy.
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>2) If the issues/newly raised questions <i>are policy </i>--
          what do we do next?  This group cannot be the Standing IRT. 
          Who will it be and how will they work?  Bundling is likely to
          play a role here, as is public comment, GNSO Council and Board
          oversight.
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>3) If the issues/newly raised questions <i>are procedural </i>-
          what do we do?  Who makes these decisions? How to we ensure
          that those communities who are generally underrepresented in
          IRTs have the opportunity to provide input, concerns and
          oversight?  As noted in the comments of the Registries, there
          may be applicants who have interested in these decisions who
          are not part of the multistakeholder process.  So too, there
          will be registrant groups and other communities -- with direct
          interest in these decisions who are not part of the
          multistakeholder process. How do we reach them and bring in
          their issues, concerns and expertise?
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>Best, Kathy<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 4/30/2019 5:36 PM, Aikman-Scalese,
            Anne wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console
              ;color:#7030A0",serif">Regarding yesterday's call and
              the attempt to measure consensus on the recommendation for
              a “Standing IRT”, changing the name of that recommended
              body actually creates more confusion rather than less. 
              The reasons are:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console
                ;color:#7030A0",serif"> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console
                ;color:#7030A0",serif">Initial Report and Public
                Comment.</span></b><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console
              ;color:#7030A0",serif"> The Initial Report
              recommended a "Standing IRT". There is a common
              understanding in the ICANN community about what an IRT
              does, how it is constituted, and what its powers are and
              are not.  The documentation in GNSO procedures lays out
              the rules re IRT, including the composition of such a team
              which requires broad representation across the community. 
              These understandings are codified in the GNSO Council
              Operating Procedures and in the Consensus Policy
              Implementation Framework. If the proposed body is renamed,
              this would require additional public comment which would
              include the need to specify how such a body would be
              constituted and what is powers would be.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console
                ;color:#7030A0",serif"> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console
                ;color:#7030A0",serif">Effect on Existing GNSO
                Procedures and ICANN ByLaws.</span></b><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console
              ;color:#7030A0",serif">  Once you apply a new name to
              this proposed new body designed specifically to address
              implementation issues post-launch, you have an animal that
              is not recognized in the Consensus Policy Implementation
              Framework nor in the GNSO Input, Guidance, and EPDP
              processes and is thus not incorporated into the language
              of those processes.  Therefore, you will either have
              created a need for massive redrafting (including
              redrafting of the ICANN ByLaws) OR you will have removed
              that new body from the application of those processes.
              Jeff says there is no intention to change the
              applicability of the GNSO Input, Guidance, and EPDP
              process post-launch so it does not really make sense to
              name a new type of team that would require significant
              changes to existing procedures (and maybe even the
              ByLaws.) Thus, a "name change" for this body creates more
              questions than it answers.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console
                ;color:#7030A0",serif"> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console
                ;color:#7030A0",serif">Prior Work of the Policy and
                Implementation WG.</span></b><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console
              ;color:#7030A0",serif">  This has been a
              long-standing issue in Sub Pro since Leadership initially
              took the position that the GNSO Input, Guidance, and EPDP
              processes do not apply after launch.  This is
              categorically not true.  The Policy and Implementation
              Working Group examined numerous examples of issues that
              arose “post-launch” in the 2012 round.   We ultimately
              concluded it is fruitless to try to characterize issues as
              either “policy” or “implementation” since one person’s
              policy is another’s implementation and vice versa. The
              mechanisms that were developed after the 2012 round to
              address these issues were specifically developed to apply
              WHENEVER the issue arise and to keep control of the issues
              at GNSO Council in a very transparent manner. It would be
              a massive change of policy to offer a new construct that
              either (1) causes the results of that PDP to have to be
              amended or (2) creates a new body that operates outside
              the established procedures already adopted by the Board
              and the GNSO.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console
              ;color:#7030A0",serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console
                ;color:#7030A0",serif">If everyone is anxious to
                simply clarify the time period in which the Team will
                operate, why not just call the teams the “Pre-launch
                IRT” and the “Post-launch IRT”.  Much simpler and more
                predictable – and requires a lot less redrafting.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console
              ;color:#7030A0",serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console
              ;color:#7030A0",serif">Anne
            </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Gnso-newgtld-wg [<a
                  href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julie Hedlund<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 30, 2019 8:38 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Notes and Action Items
                - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 30 April 2019<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span
                  style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">[EXTERNAL]</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
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                Roman ,serif",serif">
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          <p class="MsoPlainText">Dear Working Group members,<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoPlainText">Please see below the notes from the
            meeting today, 30 April 2019. These high-level notes are
            designed to help WG members navigate through the content of
            the call and are not a substitute for the recording,
            transcript, or the chat, which will be posted at: <a
href="https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/2019-04-30+New+gTLD+Subsequent+Procedures+PDP"
              moz-do-not-send="true">
https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/2019-04-30+New+gTLD+Subsequent+Procedures+PDP</a>.
            <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoPlainText">Please also see the referenced
            document at:  <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R4zXTH3hIgfbqoxyqsSp19Bl6J96NNeV7oCgxsXKD-w/edit?usp=sharing"
title="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R4zXTH3hIgfbqoxyqsSp19Bl6J96NNeV7oCgxsXKD-w/edit?usp=sharing"
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R4zXTH3hIgfbqoxyqsSp19Bl6J96NNeV7oCgxsXKD-w/edit?usp=sharing</a>.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoPlainText">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoPlainText">Julie<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoPlainText">Julie Hedlund, Policy Director<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoPlainText"><b>Notes and Action Items:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Action Items:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- Staff will check on the ICANN Board
            response to the GAC advice in the Helsinki Communique’ on
            new gTLDs.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- WG to come up with a different name
            for the “standing IRT”.  Maybe “Post Application Advisory
            Team”.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Notes:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">1. Updates to Statements of Interest: No
            updates provided.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">2. Review of Summary Documents – (see: <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R4zXTH3hIgfbqoxyqsSp19Bl6J96NNeV7oCgxsXKD-w/edit?usp=sharing"
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R4zXTH3hIgfbqoxyqsSp19Bl6J96NNeV7oCgxsXKD-w/edit?usp=sharing</a>)<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">2.2.1 Continuing Subsequent Procedures<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Policy Goals / What the WG is Seeking to
            Accomplish<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- First bullet: replace “rounds” with
            “procedures”.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><u>2.2.1.c.1</u>: The Working Group
            recommends no changes to the existing policy calling for
            subsequent application rounds introduced in an ongoing,
            orderly, timely and predictable manner.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- Support from most commenters<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">New Ideas/Concepts for Deliberations: <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- GAC Advice and BC: Support for new
            rounds but no rounds started until reviews (CCT-RT) are
            complete.  Need to do a cost-benefit analysis before
            starting new round.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- WG is taking into consideration the
            CCT-RT recommendations.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Discussion:<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- Policy does not have a demand
            component.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- Action Item: Board response to GAC
            Advice in the Helskinki Communique’.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- Note that the CCT-RT did have an
            economic study done by the Analysis Group, although perhaps
            not a full cost-benefit analysis.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- Concerns with maintaining the current
            policy unless there are objections.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- Unless there is a consensus on
            changing precedent we should stay on the same path.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- Can build on what we have learned, but
            hard to do analysis on what people might want.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- If the WG wants to request for an
            assessment to be done that will have to be approved by the
            Council.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- Calling for rounds introduced in an
            ongoing orderly timely and predictable manner support came
            from pretty much every group that responded in public
            comments to the Initial Report.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- We have some qualifications from the
            GAC.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><u>2.2.1.e.1:</u> The 2007 Final Report
            noted that success metrics would be developed around the New
            gTLD Program. What are some specific metrics that the
            program should be measured against?<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- Support from most commenters.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">New Ideas/Concepts for Deliberations:
            ALAC, BRG, BC, RySG – New Ideas<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Discussion:<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- Good proposals for different types of
            metrics.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- Need to define what we mean by
            success; CCT-RT referred that issue to the SubPro WG.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- Questions and issues in the CCT-RT
            could put some of these issues to rest.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- This WG could come up with a half
            dozen categories (elements of the program) and develop
            definitions of success for those – or develop targets, which
            is a less loaded word.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- Good conversation to continue on
            email.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- You could have a high-level structure
            from the 2012 round (to foster diversity, encourage
            competition, and enhance the utility of the DNS), then
            create specific targets within that structure within that
            framework.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">2.2.2 Predictability<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- Support from most commenters<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- BC/RySG/IPC/ALAC (in response to e.1):
            New Idea - The Standing IRT must be representative of the
            community, but must also allow for the appointment of
            experts where needed.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">New Ideas/Concepts for Deliberations --
            ICANN Org: Concerns/New Ideas<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Discussion:<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- Can things in the model be improved so
            that you can support it?  If not, what takes its place?<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- Don’t think it’s in our authority to
            replace the GNSO policy process.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- We're not changing any of the policies
            or processes that have been established.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- Changes to policies after the launch
            need to go through the GNSO policy process; the
            predictability framework is for issues that come up outside
            of that process and guidance to the standing IRT.  In the
            report we called it a standing IRT, but that seems to be
            confusing so we should change the name.  Could call it a
            “gateway” to decide what is policy and what is not, and only
            looking at non-policy issues.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- Need to be more conscious of the need
            for predictability for third party interests.  We use the
            term “affected parties” for that reason.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- WG needs to come up with a different
            name for the “standing IRT”.  Maybe a Post Application
            Advisory Team.
            <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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