<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Dear Steve, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Just for clarity:<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">the document <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/4.6.1+Security+and+Stability?preview=/58735967/79433044/RSSAC031 FINAL.pdf" class="">https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/4.6.1+Security+and+Stability?preview=/58735967/79433044/RSSAC031%20FINAL.pdf</a></div><div class="">does not have any provided basis (factually based and not limited to few words of 'our operational experiences') </div><div class="">for 5% number at all, and contains words about 10k and 25k TLDs, and to say more:</div><div class=""> figure 3 gives 14% in one of the months, where Internet was not broken (despite being almost three time more than 5% delegation rate).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Talking about the Continuous Data-driven Analysis of Root Stability
(CDAR)
Deliverable D2:
Root Stability Report, to which </div><div class="">the previous document refer</div><div class=""><a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/cdar-root-stability-final-08mar17-en.pdf" class="">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/cdar-root-stability-final-08mar17-en.pdf</a></div><div class="">pages 41-> 61 does not have any explanation of 1000 or 5% numbers </div><div class="">(all references to 5% in the document are not relevant to deployment rate).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The <a href="https://archive.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/delegation-rate-scenarios-new-gtlds-06oct10-en.pdf" class="">https://archive.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/delegation-rate-scenarios-new-gtlds-06oct10-en.pdf</a></div><div class="">staff paper was written before the new gTLD 2012 round and was based on prior plans</div><div class="">(which were changed quite severely: digital archery&batching, prioritization draw lottery, name collisions e.t.c.), </div><div class="">and our WG is reviewing the results of what happened in the 2012 round (not the previous plans).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As I understand now limits (procedural and operational for application processing) are regarded by ICANN </div><div class="">to be resolved via scalable structure (after all applications were more or less 'recovery cost based' and not expected to be lower next time).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So to avoid confusion we might want to use delegation rate and application /contract processing rates as separate ideas.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We should not conflate what happened with the reasons why it happened (the curve of delegations we see is not because it was decided to be kept at 5%).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 11 Jul 2019, at 01:24, Steve Chan <<a href="mailto:steve.chan@icann.org" class="">steve.chan@icann.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)" class=""><!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" class=""><div class="WordSection1"><div class="MsoNormal">Dear Anne, Maxim,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">To clarify a few things:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc" class=""><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:2.85pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">The RSSAC did specify a percentage rate of change per month in their <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/4.6.1+Security+and+Stability?preview=/58735967/79433044/RSSAC031%20FINAL.pdf" class="">paper</a> (see page 2) in the following text with my emphasis added: “The rate of change is more important than absolute magnitude. Based on historical trends since 2014 and our operational experiences<b class="">, the RSSAC strongly recommends that the number of TLDs delegated in the root zone should not increase by more than about 5% per month</b>, with the understanding that there may be minor variations from time-to-time. The Appendix provides some data and context for this recommendation.”<o:p class=""></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:2.85pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">The RSSAC also states that, “<b class="">Delegations “per annum” is the wrong way to think about the problem </b>because it could lead to very sudden changes depending on its implementation. It would be better to think in terms of changes over smaller periods of time (e.g., monthly).”<o:p class=""></o:p></li></ul><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">The ~1000 delegation rate per year was identified as an operational limit in a <a href="https://archive.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/delegation-rate-scenarios-new-gtlds-06oct10-en.pdf" class="">staff paper</a> drafted in 2010. If memory serves, the technical communities considered whether or not that operational capacity rate of 1000 delegations per year represented a security and stability risk. I’ve not reviewed the relevant papers drafted at the time for exact language, but in brief, it was determined that 1000 delegations per year did not represent a security and stability risk. However, notably, the technical communities refrained from establishing some sort of absolute limit of delegations per year and would likely continue to refrain from doing so now (see bullet 2 above).<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Hope the references to the RSSAC paper and brief bit of historical context is helpful.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Steve<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">From: </span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Gnso-newgtld-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Maxim Alzoba <<a href="mailto:m.alzoba@gmail.com" class="">m.alzoba@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Date: </b>Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 2:51 PM<br class=""><b class="">To: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] [Ext] RE: Notes and Action Items - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 08 July 2019<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class="MsoNormal">Dear All, <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">I will not be able to participate in the call, <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">but if we ask SSAC and RSSAC about - "what number is the limit", <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">is should go with the words <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">"please provide factually based formula, preferably supported with the historical evidence" or equivalent of the same<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">so it is not just opinion of persons, based of feelings (I am not sure it is applicable to IT industry), but on factually based evidence.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">P.s: the number of 1000 did not have strict basis (from statistical or mathematical point of view).<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Helvetica;" class="">Sincerely Yours,<br class=""><br class="">Maxim Alzoba<br class="">Special projects manager,<br class="">International Relations Department,<br class="">FAITID<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Helvetica;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Helvetica;" class="">Current UTC offset: +3.00 (.Moscow)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">On 10 Jul 2019, at 23:43, Aikman-Scalese, Anne <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com" class="">AAikman@lrrc.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#993366" class="">Hi Katrin. I see your point re “further work be done”. It just struck me that we have not actually stated any recommendation about the rate of delegation and that we don’t know as a Working Group what that rate should be. All we know is that from a technical standpoint, both RRSAC and SSAC have said that it is not the overall 1,000 cap that is the best indicator of stability. Can we just ask SSAC and RSSAC to clarify what rate of delegation seems appropriate, e.g. adding X number of new Top Level Domains per month?</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#993366" class=""> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#993366" class="">Thank you for catching this.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#993366" class="">Anne</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#993366" class=""> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><b class="">From:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Katrin Ohlmer | DOTZON GmbH<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, July 10, 2019 6:59 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] [Ext] RE: Notes and Action Items - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 08 July 2019<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><strong class=""><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica" class="">[EXTERNAL]</span></strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><hr size="0" width="100%" align="center" class=""></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE" class="">Dear All,</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE" class=""> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">unfortunately, I will not be able to attend the call tomorrow.<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">But I wanted to provide my input on the comment Anne/Julie raised:<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><br class="">“The WG supports the RRSAC and SSAC advice that an overall cap of 1000 annually is not the appropriate measure of stability. Rather, it is the rate of delegation (adding names to the root) and the WG recommends that further work be done on the appropriate rate of delegation from a technical standpoint.””<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">I’m not sure if this comment captured our discussions properly. Rather, it seems that this is one individual position, which is of course great to hear. Can the portion of “further work be done on the appropriate rate of delegation from a technical standpoint” be further detailed, i.e. conduct a study, ask SSAC for an advisory, or other means? So we can discuss whether we endorse this proposal?<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">Kind regards,<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">Katrin<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class="">DOTZON GmbH - digital identities for tomorrow<br class="">Akazienstrasse 28<br class="">10823 Berlin<br class="">Deutschland - Germany<br class="">Tel: +49 30 49802722<br class="">Fax: +49 30 49802727<br class="">Mobile: +49 173 2019240<br class=""><a href="mailto:ohlmer@dotzon.consulting" class="">ohlmer@dotzon.consulting</a><br class=""><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.dotzon.consulting_&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=UAy6fqdE7uFkRCc7uzN4yui8bwTtqofadZHiQEIO1vw&m=D5zIvswz3SQ_Qnqc6W8IKGq89xgltwknl9Mdr8gkNGs&s=CZm7GTW_PbLls7OyRV8A3JudiZwO4kj1DN-YQ2f7lUg&e=" class="">www.dotzon.consulting<span style="color:#954F72" class=""> [dotzon.consulting]</span></a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class="">Besuchen Sie uns auf<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__de.linkedin.com_company_dotzon-2Dgmbh&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=UAy6fqdE7uFkRCc7uzN4yui8bwTtqofadZHiQEIO1vw&m=D5zIvswz3SQ_Qnqc6W8IKGq89xgltwknl9Mdr8gkNGs&s=Ryq_nHGyxMsnNdPb2gt2cnX6DDyF9JAjajg0EaWOcKI&e=" class="">LinkedIn<span style="color:#954F72" class=""> [de.linkedin.com]</span></a>.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class=""><br class="">DOTZON GmbH<br class="">Registergericht: Amtsgericht Berlin-Charlottenburg, HRB 118598<br class="">Geschäftsführer: Katrin Ohlmer<br class="">Sitz der Gesellschaft: Akazienstrasse 28, 10823 Berlin</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE" class=""> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" class=""><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span lang="DE" class="">Von:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="DE" class=""> </span></span><span lang="DE" class="">Gnso-newgtld-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">Im Auftrag von<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Julie Hedlund<br class=""><b class="">Gesendet:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Dienstag, 9. Juli 2019 21:04<br class=""><b class="">An:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Aikman-Scalese, Anne <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">AAikman@lrrc.com</span></a>>; Jim Prendergast <<a href="mailto:jim@GALWAYSG.COM" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">jim@GALWAYSG.COM</span></a>>;<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a><br class=""><b class="">Betreff:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] [Ext] RE: Notes and Action Items - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 08 July 2019</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">Thanks Anne.<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">Dear all,<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">Just bringing Anne’s suggested language back to the top of the post here for review:<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">ACTION ITEM: Delegation rates: Discuss what to say instead of a limit of 1000, such as the rate of change. See language from Anne Aikman-Scalese: “The WG supports the RRSAC and SSAC advice that an overall cap of 1000 annually is not the appropriate measure of stability. Rather, it is the rate of delegation (adding names to the root) and the WG recommends that further work be done on the appropriate rate of delegation from a technical standpoint.”<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">Best,<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">Julie<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" class=""><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class="">From:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class="">"Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">AAikman@lrrc.com</span></a>><br class=""><b class="">Date:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tuesday, July 9, 2019 at 1:36 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">julie.hedlund@icann.org</span></a>>, Jim Prendergast <<a href="mailto:jim@GALWAYSG.COM" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">jim@GALWAYSG.COM</span></a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>RE: [Ext] RE: Notes and Action Items - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 08 July 2019</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D" class="">I agree with Jim’s email below and with Julie’s recommendation in chat yesterday. I think that when the WG agrees on the specific language re the cap (as to which I sent a draft in chat yesterday), the full “high level agreement” language should be sent to both RSSAC and SSAC for comment clarification. Julie rightly pointed out that this was a reasonable approach and Jim is correct that it avoids future delays.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D" class=""> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D" class="">Anne</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D" class=""> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><b class="">From:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Julie Hedlund<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, July 9, 2019 5:30 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Jim Prendergast <<a href="mailto:jim@GALWAYSG.COM" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">jim@GALWAYSG.COM</span></a>>;<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] [Ext] RE: Notes and Action Items - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 08 July 2019<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><strong class=""><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica" class="">[EXTERNAL]</span></strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><hr size="0" width="100%" align="center" class=""></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">Many thanks for the helpful clarification Jim.<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">Kind regards,<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">Julie<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" class=""><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class="">From:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt" class="">Jim Prendergast <<a href="mailto:jim@GALWAYSG.COM" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">jim@GALWAYSG.COM</span></a>><br class=""><b class="">Date:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tuesday, July 9, 2019 at 5:36 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">julie.hedlund@icann.org</span></a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>[Ext] RE: Notes and Action Items - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 08 July 2019</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">Thanks Julie<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">One edit under notes – “Could ask RSSAC and SSAC whether the WG’s recommendations are consistent with their advice (relating to the third bullet point under High Level Agreements).”<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">My recommendation was for the WG to send the entire section dealing with Root Scaling to the SSAC and RSSAC for a quick look to ensure we have accurately captured their sentiment and the interplay between both of their work on this topic. Not just the 3<sup class="">rd</sup><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>bullet point. <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">I agree with your suggestion that we not look for formal “advice” but with the revelation that in Marrakech members of the SSAC were surprised that eliminating the 1,000 per year delegation limit was on the table, I do think we need a right track/wrong track assessment and feedback from both groups due to the highly technical nature of this material and the importance it plays in the ICANN assumptions as well as pace of the overall program.<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">They can review the material in parallel while we are working on the other material ahead of us so no risk to the timeline.<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">Thanks<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">Jim Prendergast<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">The Galway Strategy Group<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">+1 202 285 3699<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">@jimpren<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" class=""><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><b class="">From:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Julie Hedlund<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, July 08, 2019 5:31 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[Gnso-newgtld-wg] Notes and Action Items - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 08 July 2019<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">Dear Working Group members,<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">Please see below the notes from the meeting today, 08 July 2019. These high-level notes are designed to help WG members navigate through the content of the call and are not a substitute for the recording, transcript, or the chat, which will be posted at:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/2019-07-08+New+gTLD+Subsequent+Procedures+PDP" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/2019-07-08+New+gTLD+Subsequent+Procedures+PDP</span></a>.<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">Kind regards,<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">Julie<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">Julie Hedlund, Policy Director<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><b class="">Notes and Action Items:</b><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><b class=""> </b><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><b class="">Action Items:</b><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">ACTION ITEM: Leadership to send a note to Cyrus and Trang asking what is the best way to send comments on the ICANN Org/GDD Assumptions document. State that we are still in discussion on topics in your assumptions, such as annual window or delegation rates, so it may be premature to assume concerning those subjects.<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">ACTION ITEM: GAC formally advised the Board re: need for a formal cost/benefit analysis of the new gTLD Program before launching another round. Check on how the Board has responded. Status of Advice to the Board per Board scorecard appears here: <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_system_files_files_board-2Dadvice-2Dstatus-2Dreport-2Dpdf-2D31may19-2Den.pdf&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=adDIs0WEx_lLwFfrsdovxTYY8GkRHo5ibc8SR3Npdh8&m=n_Y8FFbRxrx3WY2OjVvaf_AE6qHAPD6I1iYmS3nXK6c&s=LkyzQi0kx4evo13jZwak5VoQJGjzSVTP_I6XK83iCaU&e=" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/board-advice-status-report-pdf-31may19-en.pdf [icann.org]</span></a> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">ACTION ITEM: Delegation rates: Discuss what to say instead of a limit of 1000, such as the rate of change. See language from Anne Aikman-Scalese: “The WG supports the RRSAC and SSAC advice that an overall cap of 1000 annually is not the appropriate measure of stability. Rather, it is the rate of delegation (adding names to the root) and the WG recommends that further work be done on the appropriate rate of delegation from a technical standpoint.”<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><b class="">Notes:</b><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">1. Updates to Statements of Interest (SOIs): No updates provided.<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">2. Update from ICANN65<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">Session 1: <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">-- Discussion on ICANN Org/GDD assumptions to begin preliminary planning for the next round on new gTLDs. ICANN Org is seeking feedback. <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">-- Will the WG be responding to it? Not sure if the WG needs to respond. <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">-- Perhaps WG Co-Chairs could send thoughts to the Council. Council is expecting an update on GDD before determining if, and on what, they would respond. <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">-- WG may need to get back if there is anything counter to the WG recommendations.<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">-- WG Co-Chairs provided an update to the GAC Focal Group. See: <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__65.schedule.icann.org_meetings_1058193&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=adDIs0WEx_lLwFfrsdovxTYY8GkRHo5ibc8SR3Npdh8&m=n_Y8FFbRxrx3WY2OjVvaf_AE6qHAPD6I1iYmS3nXK6c&s=GOyXrHM3-Q6n8C1DRmHlMJukqDOZSZ9o2Gbmn05Jh08&e=" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">https://65.schedule.icann.org/meetings/1058193 [65.schedule.icann.org]</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">-- Question: GAC formally advised the Board re need for a formal cost/benefit analysis of the new gTLD Program before launching another round. How has the Board responded to that? Did they delegate to the GNSO? Answer: The WG has not been delegated with this question.<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">3. Topics Connected to GDD's draft assumptions for implementation efforts -- Delegation Rates (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1Q6-5FDxsCvSA-5F3B7ArncO2U4tWNY3vH7Wi4nINrouR4AI_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=adDIs0WEx_lLwFfrsdovxTYY8GkRHo5ibc8SR3Npdh8&m=n_Y8FFbRxrx3WY2OjVvaf_AE6qHAPD6I1iYmS3nXK6c&s=JB2M3uQ7NgGWZjryGe9mKCyayqTBJAvDMe7Ox1N7gVY&e=" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q6_DxsCvSA_3B7ArncO2U4tWNY3vH7Wi4nINrouR4AI/edit?usp=sharing [docs.google.com]</span></a>)<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">Root Scaling:<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">-- Question: Regarding the delegation rates in the last round, do we know what was the highest number of delegations performed in a single day? That may guide us on whether the annual figure could be changed upwards.<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">-- Policy goals have not changed. <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">-- SSAC and RSSAC are in agreement: it is the rate of change -- SSAC Response:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/4.6.1+Security+and+Stability?preview=/58735967/79433327/sac-100-en.pdf" class=""><span style="color:#954F72" class="">https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/4.6.1+Security+and+Stability?preview=/58735967/79433327/sac-100-en.pdf</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">-- Could ask RSSAC and SSAC whether the WG’s recommendations are consistent with their advice (relating to the third bullet point under High Level Agreements).<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">-- Could say that we have not found a technical rationale for limiting to 1000 delegations per year. The important factor is the rate of delegation. If we don’t use the number 1000, how do we replace it?<span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><hr size="0" width="100%" align="center" class=""></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray" class=""><br class="">This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. 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