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<p>Hi All,</p>
<p>Good meeting today -- important subjects! I was asked to provide
some wording to reflect in 2.3.3 High level agreement that the
fairness and balance of the Applicant Guidebook continues in this
area. I have done so below:</p>
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</span></span></span><span
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color:black">Most commenters agreed that it would be helpful
to provide
additional implementation guidance in relation to protecting
applicant freedom of expression rights.</span></p>
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</span></span></span><span
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color:black">Such guidance for applicant freedom of expression
rights does not
displace or replace the fairness and balance protections for “</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">generally
accepted legal
norms of morality and public order that are recognized under
principles of
international law” and other community rights and legal rights
as recognized in
the 2012 Applicant Guidebook. <br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Best,
Kathy<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/15/2019 12:50 PM, Julie Hedlund
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Dear Working Group members,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Please see below the notes from the
meeting today, 15 July 2019.
<b><i>These high-level notes are designed to help WG members
navigate through the content of the call and are not a
substitute for the recording, transcript, or the chat,</i></b>
which will be posted at:
<a
href="https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/2019-07-15+New+gTLD+Subsequent+Procedures+PDP"
moz-do-not-send="true">
https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/2019-07-15+New+gTLD+Subsequent+Procedures+PDP</a>.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Julie<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Julie Hedlund, Policy Director<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><b>Notes and Action Items:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Action Items:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">ACTION ITEM 1: Applicant Freedom of
Expression - Input on Implementation Guidelines - LRO: Work
on language for the high-level agreement to reflect fairness
and balance.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">ACTION ITEM 2: Universal Acceptance:
Rewrite the high-level agreement text.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Notes:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">1. Updates to Statements of Interest
(SOIs): Kathy Kleiman is now on the faculty of American
University Law School.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2. Review of summary document: (continued):<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">a. Applicant Freedom of Expression (<a
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moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/15rwviHM6AYtqDqyB6_5Yij2dTL6iuou8z7A32yzc7sE/edit?usp=sharing</a>)
– start at Input on Implementation Guidelines – General, top
of page 10;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- From last week: It seemed that most
commenters is that we should continue the policy that was
approved in 2008 by the ICANN Board, but that we needed to try
in implementation guidance more specific with respect to how
that consideration should take place.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- It’s one thing to say that Freedom of
Expression should be considered, but another to put that into
practice. Give more concrete guidance in the AGB wherever
possible.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">1) Input on Implementation Guidelines -
General<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- ICANN Org: Be as specific as possible.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- Provide practical examples to
evaluators.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- Balance with freedom of expression with
all users.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- Not sure we have agreement to change
from the 2008 policy approved by the ICANN Board.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- Providing consistency and clarity is a
step forward.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- There are examples where we consider the
use or intended use of a string in these types of evaluations.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- Questions: What were the original
rules? What were the problems in the 2012 round? Answer:
There were no rules that you couldn’t apply for a particular
string, but based on evaluation of string contention. Found
that there were no clear guidelines and up to the independent
objector to use his/her analysis, and evaluators based it on
their own beliefs. Most of the comments were that to the
extent possible we need to be more clear and provide more
guidance.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2) Input on Implementation Guidelines - LRO<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- From Kathy Kleiman: Then we must
expressly reference the Morality and Public Order findings and
standards in referencing the new Applicant Freedom of
Expression.<span style="font-family:"MS Gothic"">
</span>I
don't see material reference anywhere in our materials here.<span
style="font-family:"MS Gothic"">
</span>It all has
to be balanced<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- But there was evolution between the
original references and what went into the AGB. We could
reference the AGB.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- Should change the high-level agreement
to include references to Morality and Public Order findings.
Protecting applicants’ Freedom of Expression rights should be
balanced with other recognized rights.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- Should be considered when deliberating
on the Objection section.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">ACTION: Work on language for the high-level
agreement to reflect fairness and balance.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">3) Suggested criteria to ensure that denial
of an application does not infringe on FX rights:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- Should be considered when deliberating
on the Objection section.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- Question: ICANN org's comment before the
start of 2.3.4. suggests that some of the assumptions about
evaluation were incorrect and criteria was applied. do we know
what the criteria was that was applied?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">b. Universal Acceptance, page 11<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Outstanding Items - New
Ideas/Concerns/Divergence<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Suggestions for additional work on this
topic: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- Section 1.2.4 of the AGB talks about
”Notice concerning Technical Acceptance Issues with New gTLDs”<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- Not even primarily and issue of
registrar acceptance but much more needs to be done to resolve
this issue. Came up midstream in the last round, as in name
collisions.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- Seek clarification on ALAC comment: New
Idea: ALAC - Registries and Registrars, if they are owned by
the same entity, should be Universal Acceptance (UA) ready as
part of their application. This means that their systems
should be ready for IDN registrations, ready handle IDN and
non-IDN New gTLDs consistently on nameservers and other
machines and able to manage any Email Address
Internationalization (EAI), i.e.
<nativelanguage>@<idn>.<idn>, as part of the
contact information and be able to send and receive emails
from these type of addresses. In addition, Registries and
Registrars should take affirmative actions to ensure that
their suppliers are also UA ready.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- What they were saying is if you are
offering registrations in the Chinese language, you should be
able to get and have email that is in that language about your
registration -- such as support questions, web site tools,
third party suppliers of services, etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- Should the WG in its recommendations be
urging some specific steps to address the problems? Answer:
Will rewrite the high-level agreement text.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- Good to get an update from the
USAG/ICANN on the state of UA and in particular on their
progress. Include a link to the USAG work in the Final
Report.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- This isn’t about TLDs not working, but
third party applications working or not. ICANN has addressed
the IDN issues from 2012, but some third parties have not.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- What more can the SubPro WG do that the
USAG is not already doing. There is a new idea from the ALAC
with respect to registries and registrars that we need to
decide whether to include.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- So maybe one solution is stronger
language from ICANN elaborating on the potential problems IDN
applicants could face with usage of their domains. Clearly
ICANN knows it’s a problem. Thy have spent millions on UASG
efforts. But the last communication was not good for new
applicants and players in the gTLD space.
<o:p></o:p></p>
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