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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Jeff, Trang, et al<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">It strikes me that any registry that had to change its 2012 application from “Closed” to “Open” (in order to win an auction or otherwise be awarded the generic TLD) would be very interested in the possibility
of getting a new policy permitting closed generics applied to the terms of its existing registry agreement. Otherwise, we could be creating an “unfair playing field”. Therefore, factual data from ICANN staff as to which registries from 2012 switched from
“Closed” proposals to “Open” proposals should also be considered by the small group.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">TRANG – could you please<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">(1) recirculate the list of 2012 applications that have not been withdrawn,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">(2) Identify any 2012 Closed Generic applications that were switched to “open” status in order to qualify for delegation or for a Contention Set, and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">(3) Let us know who won the contention set for a generic where one or more of the original applicants applied for a Closed Generic?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The above information should be very helpful to the small group.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Another question for the group might be: Would it be fair to allow the winner of an open generic contention set to update to a new policy and operate a closed generic under that new policy if the bidders in
the contention set in 2012 were bidding solely based on an understanding that the registry would need to be “open”?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This also affects the policy question I was asking about giving priority to applications from 2012 that have not been delegated. My question was: What policy applies if those applications are given priority?
Old policy or new policy? I believe Susan Payne is drafting some language relative to priority for 2012 applications as well as priority for applications that remain unresolved when a future round closes. I am not sure how that language might (or might
not) apply to a registry agreement issued in 2012 where the registry may desire to “switch” to any new policy adopted as to “Closed Generics”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">As to Board action and consideration of what the Board will do, one element that needs to be considered is the standing GAC Advice that a Closed Generic “should serve a public interest goal”. Since the Board
would have to have 11 votes to act against that Advice, it may be worthwhile for the small group to develop some examples demonstrating what “public interest goal” might be served by a Closed Generic.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Martin Pablo Silva Valent<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 22, 2019 10:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Closed Generics / Creation of Sub-group<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Of course, but yet again, having no agreement is not a wild card that the board could use to allow generics, it’s quite the opposite. Only if we agree to allow them the board could approve them.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 22 Aug 2019, at 14:12, Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I think arguments can be made in a lot of different ways (and understand you disagree with that), but I would ask us to focus on whether we can find some compromise solution.
I am hoping you are joining the small group to help us find some sort of compromise (if we can) as that is its purpose.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">E:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><u><span style="color:#0563C1"><a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com"><span style="color:purple">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</span></a></span></u></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Martin
Pablo Silva Valent <<a href="mailto:mpsilvavalent@gmail.com">mpsilvavalent@gmail.com</a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, August 22, 2019 12:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Closed Generics / Creation of Sub-group<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The board can always take decisions we cannot anticipate with certainty, but we can have an opinion on what the board should do. It is clear for me that there is no scenario
were with good faith and rational, even legitimacy, a board decision over closed generic should open them without our explicit consent to it and the rules it will have according to us in that case. The community holds the power and legitimacy in the bottom-up
model in gTLDs, and not allowing the closed generic is the default because that was what current practice and previos board decisions have been. Specially since it is also clear there are clear community concerns of they even being allowed at all.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">So no, I do not think it is fair to say that we don0’t now what the board will say if we don’t agree, therefore we should agree on something. Not agreeing to open the generic
is a valid solution and that means the current state of affairs holds, unless the board goes rogue and creates PDP new policy against the will of the constituencies entitled to create such policy. The temporal designo is the solution the board came to in the
absence of us agreeing to have them in the first place. That is the logical solution and there is no reason to think otherwise. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Although I understand your arguments, my only point was that it is not as clear as it is in other situations. And if we hang our hat on the argument that the default means
what you believe it means (and therefore rely on what you believe the default means), we need to recognize that that may not be how the Board interprets the default.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Martin
Pablo Silva Valent <<a href="mailto:mpsilvavalent@gmail.com"><span style="color:purple">mpsilvavalent@gmail.com</span></a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, August 22, 2019 11:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com"><span style="color:purple">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</span></a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org"><span style="color:purple">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Closed Generics / Creation of Sub-group<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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would like to strongly disagree with the view on the default issue, it is very clear that the default is not allowing them. The temporality goes towards an eventual policy that may contradict the board, in that case, the board recognizes our policy allowing
them would win over their decision not to, if that policy explicitly allowing them in x and y terms cannot be created because there is no consensus for that, then the ban on generics remains. So no new consensus policy allowing them means not allowing them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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can be found on the<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/VqujBg"><span style="color:#954F72">agenda wiki page</span></a>. The latest version of the Summary Document is<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q6_DxsCvSA_3B7ArncO2U4tWNY3vH7Wi4nINrouR4AI/edit#heading=h.j7jy935ryg4k"><span style="color:#954F72">here</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>(specifically
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Group on one of the options that were presented (or any hybrid or new option). We are seeking volunteers to serve on this small group. Please let us know if you would like to sign up for this group.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Documents, combines with the Initial Report and Public Comment Analysis referenced in the Summary Document we believe have effectively captured all of that. What we are looking for is whether there is any solution that can address/mitigate the alleged harms
expressed by those that oppose Closed Generics. We are trying to assess whether there is an appetite in the group to compromise. <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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of time discussing an issue that no side is willing to give anymore on. Although you should be familiar with the Summary Document, please do not make any changes to that document at this time (other than glaring errors). The focus should be on finding a
compromise (if there is one to be reached).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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decided to<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><i>temporarily</i><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>not allow Closed Generics in 2012</span></a>, the ICANN Board expressly asked the GNSO to create policy on this matter. The Board, in deciding
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responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan or otherwise check this email and any attachments. The Com Laude Group does not accept liability for statements which are clearly the sender's own and not made on behalf of the group or one of
its member entities. The Com Laude Group includes Nom-IQ Limited t/a Com Laude, a company registered in England and Wales with company number 5047655 and registered office at 28-30 Little Russell Street, London, WC1A 2HN England; Valideus Limited, a company
registered in England and Wales with company number 06181291 and registered office at 28-30 Little Russell Street, London, WC1A 2HN England; Demys Limited, a company registered in Scotland with company number SC197176, having its registered office at 33 Melville
Street, Edinburgh, Lothian, EH3 7JF Scotland; Consonum, Inc. dba Com Laude USA and Valideus USA, headquartered at 1751 Pinnacle Drive, Suite 600, McLean, VA 22102, USA; Com Laude (Japan) Corporation, a company registered in Japan having its registered office
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its member entities. The Com Laude Group includes Nom-IQ Limited t/a Com Laude, a company registered in England and Wales with company number 5047655 and registered office at 28-30 Little Russell Street, London, WC1A 2HN England; Valideus Limited, a company
registered in England and Wales with company number 06181291 and registered office at 28-30 Little Russell Street, London, WC1A 2HN England; Demys Limited, a company registered in Scotland with company number SC197176, having its registered office at 33 Melville
Street, Edinburgh, Lothian, EH3 7JF Scotland; Consonum, Inc. dba Com Laude USA and Valideus USA, headquartered at 1751 Pinnacle Drive, Suite 600, McLean, VA 22102, USA; Com Laude (Japan) Corporation, a company registered in Japan having its registered office
at Suite 319,1-3-21 Shinkawa, Chuo-ku, Tokyo, 104-0033, Japan. For further information see<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="https://comlaude.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:purple">www.comlaude.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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