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<p>Ditto for Open Generics, Martin. It's all part-and-parcel of the
post-reveal process. The reason many people were able to support
closed Brands is that we had clearly banned Closed Generics. <br>
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<p>Best, Kathy<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/29/2019 5:29 AM, Martin Sutton
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Hi Kathy,
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<div class="">You may not have been participating at the time but
the WG reviewed TLD types earlier this year which covered
.brands/spec 13. These are well-defined and as you note, took
considerable time to develop Specification 13, which had
substantive debate and public comment periods before being
approved by the Board. These are different to closed generics
and this topic should not be extended to .brands otherwise we
will repeat discussions already undertaken by the WG.</div>
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<div class="">On 29 Aug 2019, at 00:15, Kathy Kleiman <<a
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To borrow and modify a phrase from Anne -- please keep
in mind that that was absolutely nothing in the 2012 AGB
that provided for .BRAND protection (Specification 13
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In response to widespread calls, we clarified that
Closed Generics would be banned and created a balance in
allowing .BRANDS to be closed. I am assuming that all
of this post-2012 work is being put up for review and
re-evalaution...</p>
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On 8/28/2019 3:51 PM, Aikman-Scalese, Anne wrote:</p>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Hi
Heather,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">There
is no prohibition on a registry seeking a
reasonable contract modification from ICANN in
light of all circumstances. It’s codified in
Consensus Policy as the<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b
class="">RSEP<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>process.
An unreasonable denial of that RSEP request for
contract modification is fertile ground for a
Request for Reconsideration, Independent Review
Process, all the way up to and including a
lawsuit. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">See <span
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href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/rsep-2014-02-19-en"
moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/rsep-2014-02-19-en</a>
and note the legitimate purpose to “modify” or
“remove” an existing Registry service.<o:p
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Let’s
take the real life example of .BEAUTY – originally
proposed as closed –now delegated as “open” and
NOT launched (at least according to ICANN Sunrise
records at the link provided by Rubens and I don’t
see anything at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="http://www.nic.beauty/"
moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;" class="">www.nic.beauty</a>.
Are we really saying that if L’Oreal’s competitor
applies for and gets .PRETTY as a Closed Generic
based on a 2022 application, it doesn’t matter and
L’Oreal is stuck with remaining an open generic
even if they have not launched? (I don’t
represent L’Oreal or any other beauty industry
client.) Keep in mind that there was absolutely
nothing in the 2012 AGB that prohibited an
application for a Closed Generic. (Sounds vaguely
familiar to another IRP proceeding.)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Maybe
out of scope for Sub Pro, but GNSO Council will
have to deal with this if they don’t want a
“logjam” at the Board level as to any new Closed
Generic policy that may be developed. <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Anne<o:p
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sans-serif;" class=""><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Heather
Forrest <</span><a
href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com"
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text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class="">haforrestesq@gmail.com</span></a><span
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<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday,
August 27, 2019 8:44 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Maxim
Alzoba <</span><a
href="mailto:m.alzoba@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple;
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<b class="">Cc:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Aikman-Scalese,
Anne <</span><a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class="">AAikman@lrrc.com</span></a><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class="">>;<span
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href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org"
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text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[Gnso-newgtld-wg] Closed Generics and the 2012
Round<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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Thanks, Maxim - I understand that, but
amendments to an in-force contract are not the
same as repudiating a contract and asking for a
new contract to apply. The terms of the RA (clause
7.6(a) re "Special Amendment") and the AGB
expressly provided for amendments to both.<o:p
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AGB Module 6, cl 14: "ICANN reserves the
right to make reasonable updates and changes
to this applicant guidebook and to the
application process, including the process
for withdrawal of applications, at any time
by posting notice of such updates and
changes to the ICANN website, including as
the possible result of new policies that
might be adopted or advice to ICANN from
ICANN advisory committees during the course
of the application process. Applicant
acknowledges that ICANN may make such
updates and changes and agrees that its
application will be subject to any such
updates and changes. In the event that
Applicant has completed and submitted its
application prior to such updates or changes
and Applicant can demonstrate to ICANN that
compliance with such updates or changes
would present a material hardship to
Applicant, then ICANN will work with
Applicant in good faith to attempt to make
reasonable accommodations in order to
mitigate any negative consequences for
Applicant to the extent possible consistent
with ICANN's mission to ensure the stable
and secure operation of the Internet's
unique identifier systems." <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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I can anticipate here that someone will say:
"But Module 6 cl 14 expressly anticipates
changes to the AGB and gives the 2012
applicant a right to demonstrate material
hardship caused by the 'new' AGB being on
more favourable terms!" I don't think that
will be consistent with standard contract
law interpretation in US courts, as only the
2012 applicants agreed to be contractually
bound by the 2012 AGB, while new round
applicants will only have the option of
agreeing to whatever the AGB (or whatever
name it has) is at that time, not a choice
between old AGB or new AGB. A strict
interpretation of "changes to<span
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class="">this applicant guidebook</i>"
logically suggests that the 2012 AGB binds
applicants who applied in 2012, because by
applying, they consented to the application
of the 2012 AGB. A new AGB, even if
technically an amended version of the prior
document, would apply to new applicants in
the "next" round, whenever that is.
Articulated another way, I think Jeff's
point to now is that the charter of SubPro
PDP instructs us to develop the rules that
will apply to applicants in this "next"
round, not to unsuccessful or any other
applicants of the 2012 round (who already
contractually agreed to a set of rules when
they submitted their application to the
TAS). The question of whether the new AGB/RA
that results from SubPro PDP, RPM PDP, CCT
Review, etc is to be applied to 2012
applicants is not within our PDP's scope.
That's the question that would have to go to
Council.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 11:51 AM Maxim Alzoba
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Formally ICANN changed AGB and RAin 2012
(Pic spec, for example), after the fees were
paid.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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But anyway, we should not mix rules from the
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On 28 Aug 2019, at 08:35, Heather Forrest
<<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
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It seems to me that basic principles
of contract law apply here to keep us
out of the weeds. ICANN's legal
framework depends, in its entirety, on
contract after all. Applicants who
applied in 2012 under the AGB
contractually agreed, by submitting an
application, to the AGB and the base
RA that was incorporated in it. Those
applicants did not apply under a
future AGB, or a future RA to reflect
that future AGB. <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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Whether a party on a 2012-era contract
can adopt (in the case of those not
yet contracted) the new RA or rescind
current RA and adopt new RA (for those
already completed contracting) is a
separate question. I agree with Jeff
that this separate question is not
within the scope of the SubPro
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On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 5:50 AM
Aikman-Scalese, Anne <<a
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target="_blank"
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<span style="color: rgb(153, 51,
102);" class="">Hi Jeff – Do we
have Susan’s draft language on
your first point yet? (You may
recall that there were even
discussions about PROHIBITING
new applications for the same
string as some still pending
from 2012 –that was not agreed
so Susan is working on a
statement that 2012 string
application processing must be
complete before any new
application for that string
would be considered. HOWEVER –
again here is the “rub” – When
you say 2012 string applications
have to be “completed”, what are
you saying about the policy that
applies to those? What if the
pending strings from 2012 don’t
meet current new gTLD policy but
they did not violate that policy
as of the time of application?
We can only skirt this issue for
so long. Are 2012 strings going
to be allowed to update to
current gTLD policy in order to
get authorization to proceed or
not? Or are you saying GNSO
Council will have to launch
another PDP for that purpose?</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
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<b class=""><span
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class=""><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jeff
Neuman <</span><a
href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com"
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class=""><span style="font-size:
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<b class="">Sent:</b><span
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August 26, 2019 12:43 PM<br
class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Aikman-Scalese,
Anne <</span><a
href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com"
target="_blank"
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style="color: purple;
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class=""><span style="font-size:
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class="">>;<span
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style="color: purple;
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class=""><span style="font-size:
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE:
Closed Generics and the 2012
Round</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt;"
class="">Where has it been
proposed that applications from
2012 get priority? I am not
aware of any recommendation that
we have made that gives
“priority” to any applicants
from 2012. We did recommend
that any applications that were
still outstanding for a string
that is applied from in a
subsequent round be completed. </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt;"
class="">With respect to
Exclusive Generics, the Board
resolution on this matter stated
that any applications that
wanted to maintain their
“exclusive generic” status would
be “deferred to the next round
of the New gTLD Program, subject
to rules developed for the next
round…” They did not state
that any of those applications
would get priority. However,
there were no applications that
were deferred from the last
round.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt;"
class="">If we did allow some
form of Exclusive Generic in the
next round, then those rules
would only apply to new
applicants for TLDs. Discussing
what happens to TLDs from 2012
that wanted to be Exclusive
Generics, but ended up opening
their TLDs because of the Board
Resolution is not within the
topics contained within our
Charter. So yes if we wanted to
discuss that issue we would need
an amendment to our charter to
allow us to tackle that
subject. The GNSO could then
either grant our request or farm
that issue out to a separate
group. That is within their
discretion. </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt;"
class="">This is no different
than any other changes we
recommend where applicants from
the past round would want the
same things. For example, if we
accept changes to the code of
conduct, the COI, reserved
names, agreement, etc., the
existing registries would not
get the benefit of those changes
unless the changes go through a
PDP that has jurisdiction over
those issues. All Applications
/ TLDs are treated according the
to rules for the round in which
they applied. This is true
regardless of whether they have
launched yet or not.</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt;"
class="">I hope this clears
things up.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<b class=""><span
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class="">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 11pt;"
class=""><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Aikman-Scalese,
Anne <</span><a
href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;"
class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt;"
class="">AAikman@lrrc.com</span></a><span
style="font-size: 11pt;"
class="">><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday,
August 26, 2019 2:55 PM<br
class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jeff
Neuman <</span><a
href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;"
class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt;"
class="">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</span></a><span
style="font-size: 11pt;"
class="">>;<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a
href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
style="color: purple;
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class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt;"
class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a><span
style="font-size: 11pt;"
class=""><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: Closed Generics and the 2012
Round</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73,
125);" class="">Thanks Jeff.
Your reasoning below is not
consistent with what has been
proposed in relation to giving
priority to applications from
the 2012 round that have not
been withdrawn. (How is it that
this “priority” is in scope for
our WG but nothing else re 2012
applicants is in scope? AND if
I applied for a Closed Generic
and didn’t get it in 2012, why
should I have to require another
PDP authorization from GNSO
Council in order to be treated
similarly to new applicants and
convert to a Closed Generic? (I
believe some open registries
that won contention sets in 2012
may not have not have actually
launched yet. Why would we say
that whether or not they can
launch as a Closed Generic is up
to GNSO Council?)</span><o:p
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73,
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73,
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<b class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt;"
class="">From:</span></b><span
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class=""><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg
<</span><a
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Neuman<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday,
August 26, 2019 5:27 AM<br
class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jeff
Neuman <</span><a
href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com"
target="_blank"
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class="">>;<span
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[Gnso-newgtld-wg] Closed
Generics and the 2012 Round</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt;"
class="">Thanks all. We have
already got a number of people
signed up for the group. I
expect substantive discussions
on this topic to start this
week. So, it is not too late to
join. But remember that if you
join, the expectation is that we
will attempt to find a
compromise solution that we all
can live with (if possible).</span><o:p
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<span style="font-size: 11pt;"
class="">You can view the member
list for the small group here: <span
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style="font-size: 11pt;"
class=""> Please allow a day or
two to pass before seeing your
name on the list if you just
volunteered over the weekend or
today. </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt;"
class="">We will not be talking
about Closed Generics in our
next meeting tomorrow (late
tonight for some of us).</span><o:p
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There has been a lot of
discussion in the past 24 hours
or so on the applicability of
our work on the 2012
applications. Some have
expressed concerns about the
“fairness” of establishing a
policy or new procedures for
subsequent rounds when Closed
Generics were not allowed in
2012. </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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Resolution covering Closed
Generics required the 2012
applicants for Closed Generics
to do one of three things.
Applicants could have withdrawn
their applications completely,
signed the then-current Registry
Agreement which did not allow
Closed Generics, or could have
deferred their applications for
consideration in a subsequent
round. As we covered on the
call on Thursday, all of the
applicants chose either to
convert their applications to
open TLDs or withdraw their
applications completely. There
were NO applicants that elected
to defer their applications to
any future round. </span><o:p
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theory we could have had some
issues that we needed to address
involving applicants in the 2012
round, the reality is that we do
not have any such issues. To
address the arguments about
fairness of any new policy
recommendations on applicants
from the previous round, all we
can say is that we need to focus
on what the right policy should
be first without the
consideration of the fairness or
unfairness to previous
applicants from having different
rules. If we as a group
determine that the right policy
is something other than what
happened in 2012, then it will
by up to the GNSO Council to
either set up a new group to
deal with that issue or to refer
the issue to this group at a
later date. But for now, as
some have stated, that issue is
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there are many things that this
group is considering which could
produce results that may treat
new applicants differently than
previous round applicants. Some
of those changes may be
favorable to the new applicants
and some less favorable. The
same is true with respect to
previous applicants. If we did
not make any changes to policy
or implementation for fear of
the impact on previous or new
applicants, no changes would
ever be made. The point is that
we need to decide what is the
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