<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Em 5 de set de 2019, à(s) 15:03:000, Aikman-Scalese, Anne <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com" class="">AAikman@lrrc.com</a>> escreveu:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Dear List,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Regarding the message from Rubens and the message from JAS Advisors,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">1. There is, as far as I know as a member of the NCAP Discussion Group,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">at least one response</u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>to the RFP on Study 1 for the Name Collision Analysis Project, so there is a dependency to Sub Pro recommendations. (</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div>The assertion that there is such a dependency is only Anne's opinion.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">NCAP Recommendations will go directly to the Board as well but Rubens and Jeff are both members of the NCAP Discussion Group. Jeff has stated that his purpose is to coordinate with them.)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">2. I note that JAS Advisors says in its email that its Final Report on Name Collisions stands and Rubens has made some points about that. I don’t recall Work Track 4 actually taking the time to review that report in full. A copy is attached.</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>That report was one of the many materials reviewed by WT4. </div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">3. I have also taken a section from the Final Report and its recommendations that is referred to by JAS in the new email in its discussion of .corp and other high risk strings. It’s clear JAS recommended total reservation of .HOME, .CORP, and .MAIL in its Final Report,</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>I don't agree with that interpretation regarding CHM TLDs, but this is not a topic for SubPro so I'll let JAS state their positions in NCAP discussions. </div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> i.e. that none of these be delegated going forward. And it’s clear from the email that JAS recommends a way of identifying similar high risk strings be developed. I think Work Track 4 referred to this in its tentative recommendations as “developing a DO NOT APPLY” list.</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>I think the JAS recommendation goes broader then the "DO NOT APPLY" list, but yes, the ideas are very compatible. </div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">The Final Report is very long – but the summary of recommendations appears early on. These are worth your consideration prior to the Monday call. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""></span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>While there are other materials in the WT4 wiki, this one is indeed a worthy reading. </div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div>Rubens</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Thank you,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Anne<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Jeff Neuman<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, September 4, 2019 12:04 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Rubens Kuhl <<a href="mailto:rubensk@nic.br" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rubensk@nic.br</a>>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] [NCAP-Discuss] Fwd: [Ext] JAS no-bid on NCAP Study 1<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">[EXTERNAL]</span></strong><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-align: center;"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" class=""></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Thanks Rubens for forwarding all of the communication. Please note that Name Collisions is on our agenda most likely next Monday if all goes according to the Work Plan.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Jeff Neuman</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Senior Vice President <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Com Laude | Valideus</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">D: +1.703.635.7514<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">E:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><u class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class=""><a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></u></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Rubens Kuhl<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, September 4, 2019 10:38 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] [NCAP-Discuss] Fwd: [Ext] JAS no-bid on NCAP Study 1<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">As a follow-up, there is an interesting thread of discussions in the NCAP list regarding this topic after the message I forwarded; it can be followed even by non-subscribers using the list archive:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><a href="https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ncap-discuss/2019-September/thread.html" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ncap-discuss/2019-September/thread.html</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Rubens<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Em 3 de set de 2019, à(s) 18:18:000, Rubens Kuhl <<a href="mailto:rubensk@nic.br" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rubensk@nic.br</a>> escreveu:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">This message distributed in the name collisions project list touches 3 discussion topics from WT4 and the full WG:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">- JAS Advisors believe the NCAP Study 1 provides no actual new content. I agree with their assessment, and already factored that in my opinion that there is no dependency between NCAP and SubPro for the policy part, even though is possible that NCAP studies 2 and 3, if they are ever commissioned, could interrelate in implementation. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">- JAS Advisors makes a suggestion regarding the next procedures that we can check if it was already factored or not in the report or already mentioned by any other commenter. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">- JAS Advisors makes a point regarding a topic that is in our charter but hasn't been discussed so far, name collisions in current gTLDs. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Rubens<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Início da mensagem encaminhada:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">De:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Matt Larson <<a href="mailto:matt.larson@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">matt.larson@icann.org</a>></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Assunto: [NCAP-Discuss] Fwd: [Ext] JAS no-bid on NCAP Study 1</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Data:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">3 de setembro de 2019 13:47:32 BRT</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Para:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">"<a href="mailto:ncap-discuss@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">ncap-discuss@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:ncap-discuss@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">ncap-discuss@icann.org</a>></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Dear colleagues,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">David Conrad and I thought the email below from Jeff Schmidt (who is known to most of you based on his firm's previous work on name collisions) was worth forwarding to this group, which we are doing with Jeff's permission.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Matt<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Begin forwarded message:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Jeff Schmidt <<a href="mailto:jschmidt@jasadvisors.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jschmidt@jasadvisors.com</a>></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Subject: [Ext] JAS no-bid on NCAP Study 1</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">August 27, 2019 at 11:25:49 AM EDT</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Roy Arends <<a href="mailto:roy.arends@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">roy.arends@icann.org</a>>, Matt Larson <<a href="mailto:matt.larson@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">matt.larson@icann.org</a>>, David Conrad <<a href="mailto:david.conrad@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">david.conrad@icann.org</a>></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Hello Team ICANN!</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">JAS elected not to bid on the NCAP Study 1; thank you for the invitation and please keep us in mind for Study 2 if such a study occurs.</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Our primary rationale for not bidding on Study 1 is simply that we don’t believe we have anything useful to add to the discussion given the limited scope of Study 1. We believe that at this point DNS namespace collisions are well understood (albeit by a relatively small technical community) and that any further work product from JAS would largely be a restatement of our October 2015 Final Report. In the three years since our Final Report, our conclusions have been shown to be largely correct and the mitigation strategy we proposed (“Controlled Interruption”) has had the desired effects. Many TLDs have been delegated and used in a variety of fashions at this point and – as we suggested – the few problems that surfaced were isolated and not serious. Our definition of DNS namespace collisions and the causes/etiology as described in Sections 4 and 5 of our report still hold. At the end of the day, we can’t take your money if we don’t believe we have anything useful to add. ;-)</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">The one glaring failure and our great disappointment is that the IETF has refused to take-up our Recommendation #1 to clearly create an RFC 1918-like protected namespace for local use. Until this happens, DNS namespace collisions will continue to occur; however, increased awareness should reduce the risk of widespread serious future problems (with the “corp-like” exception noted below). Given the lack of clarity of RFC 6762 (including errata), this issue will persist until folks are told unambiguously the *<b class="">right</b>* way to do this.</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">We believe the datasets available to research collisions are also fairly well known – the DNS-OARC DITL data, data that may be made available from large recursive operators, and authoritative data acquired by acquiring/hosting known colliding domains (the 30+ such domains JAS owns, Mike O’Connor’s<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://corp.com/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">corp.com</span></a>, etc). While these datasets have been available for years, extremely limited research interest (essentially zero) has been shown in collision-related topics. <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">JAS remains concerned about the security implications of a small number of “special” domains – like .corp – including the ones that have not yet been discovered. The special nature of the string “corp” was not predictable a-priori and highly esoteric; all future TLD application rounds should contain steps to identify potential corp-like “special” strings requiring exceptional treatment. JAS also remains concerned about the practice of “drop catching” which is essentially the intentional discovery and monetization of DNS namespace collisions and referenced this practice in our Final report and in Recommendation #14. We would very much appreciate the opportunity to assist with these issues at some future point.</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Happy to chat further feel free to reach out of course; just wanted to make sure I closed the loop since you invited a bid from us. Please do let whomever you select to perform Study 1 know that we’re happy to chat with them and provide whatever historical information/assistance we can.</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Thank you!<br class="">Jeff</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">NCAP-Discuss mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:NCAP-Discuss@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">NCAP-Discuss@icann.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ncap-discuss" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ncap-discuss</a><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (<a href="https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy</a>) and the website Terms of Service (<a href="https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos</a>). 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