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<p class="MsoNormal">Agree with You Christopher. Individuals for sure, less possibility of conflict <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of "lists@christopherwilkinson.eu" <lists@christopherwilkinson.eu><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, October 16, 2019 at 15:44<br>
<b>To: </b>Jim Prendergast <jim@GALWAYSG.COM><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Appeals Standard of Review<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Good morning: Just to rappel my most recent chat contribution: evaluators/panelists should be individuals, not companies.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">In other respects, supporting Jim’s questions.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">CW<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On 15 Oct 2019, at 22:39, Jim Prendergast <<a href="mailto:jim@GALWAYSG.COM">jim@GALWAYSG.COM</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Jeff – on you recommendation -<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="color:red">. ICANN should have a thorough screening process to pick its evaluators/panelists and deference to their determinations
should be given. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Do we know what the screening process was last go around? For example – how was the Economist Intelligence Unit selected? Was there an RFP issued? If so what were those terms?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">CPE was a particularly painful exercise for more than a few applicants so yes – I’m sort of picking on that one but it would be illustrative to the others. I do know there was a tender process for the Independent
Objector.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b>From:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span style="color:#954F72">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org"><span style="color:#954F72">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[Gnso-newgtld-wg] Appeals Standard of Review<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">All,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">One of the remaining topics for Appeals is to determine what the standard of review should be. The choices discussed are “De Novo” or “Clearly Erroneous.”<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]>Under a “<i>De Novo”</i><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>standard of review, the appeals panel is essentially deciding the issues without reference to any of the conclusions or assumptions made by the evaluator/dispute panel.
It can refer to the evaluator/dispute panel to determine the facts, but it need not defer to any of the findings or conclusions. It would be as if the appeals panel is hearing the facts for the first time.<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#333333;background:white">Under a “Clearly Erroneous” standard of review, the appeals panel must accept the evaluator’s or dispute panel’s findings of fact unless the appeals panel is definitely and firmly convinced
that a mistake has been made. In other words, it is not enough that the appeals panel may have weighed the evidence and reached a different conclusion; the evaluator’s/dispute panel’s decision will only be reversed if it is implausible in light of all the
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">In theory it could be possible to have different standards of review depending on what is the issue being appealed. For example, for Conflicts of Interest determinations, we could state that such an appeal would
be on a<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><i>De Novo</i>standard, but for all other appeals, Clearly Erroneous. As a reminder, here are the different types of appeals:<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><u>Evaluations</u><o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">a.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>Background Screening<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><u>Objections</u><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]>Legal Rights Objection<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><i><span style="color:red">My personal recommendation is that all appeals except for the Conflict of Interest appeals have a “Clearly Erroneous” standard.</span></i><span style="color:red"> <i>Conflict of Interests
should be reviewed under a De Novo Standard</i>. To review anything else<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><i>De Novo</i><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>would be incredibly time consuming, costly, and could substantially delay applications.
ICANN should have a thorough screening process to pick its evaluators/panelists and deference to their determinations should be given. But determinations of Conflict of Interest seem to me to be appropriate for a De Novo standard because the original determination
could be made by the party against whom the assertion of a conflict is made.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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