<html><body><span style="font-family:Book Antiqua; color:#000; font-size:10pt;"><div>I too would appreciate knowing the answers to Jim's questions below.</div><div><br></div><div>As raised on a prior call discussing who covers the cost of appeals, I think there is value in understanding ICANN's current practice and/or policy with handling additional evaluator/panelist expenses that come from applicants prevailing in accountability mechanisms. <span style="font-size: 10pt;">For example, who was responsible for the expenses behind the EIU conducting the 2nd CPE on .GAY when the Board confirmed the EIU's panelists/evaluators did not follow proper procedure? </span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><br></span></div><div>I would assume that some type of policy exists as part of the contract with the service providers, given that the service providers much be informed about the accountability mechanisms they may be subject to.</div><div><br></div><div>Jamie</div>
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Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Appeals Standard of Review<br>
From: Jim Prendergast <<a href="mailto:jim@GALWAYSG.COM">jim@GALWAYSG.COM</a>><br>
Date: Tue, October 15, 2019 4:39 pm<br>
To: Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a>"<br>
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</style> <div class="WordSection1"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">Jeff – on you recommendation - <span style="color:red">. ICANN should have a thorough screening process to pick its evaluators/panelists and deference to their determinations should be given. <o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:red"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">Do we know what the screening process was last go around? For example – how was the Economist Intelligence Unit selected? Was there an RFP issued? If so what were those terms?<o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">CPE was a particularly painful exercise for more than a few applicants so yes – I’m sort of picking on that one but it would be illustrative to the others. I do know there was a tender process for the Independent Objector.<o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b>From:</b> Gnso-newgtld-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Neuman<br> <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:25 AM<br> <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Appeals Standard of Review<o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">All,<o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">One of the remaining topics for Appeals is to determine what the standard of review should be. The choices discussed are “De Novo” or “Clearly Erroneous.”<o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <ol style="margin-top:0in" start="1" type="1"> <li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo3">Under a “<i>De Novo”</i> standard of review, the appeals panel is essentially deciding the issues without reference to any of the conclusions or assumptions made by the evaluator/dispute panel. It can refer to the evaluator/dispute panel to determine the facts, but it need not defer to any of the findings or conclusions. It would be as if the appeals panel is hearing the facts for the first time.<i><o:p></o:p></i></li></ol> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><i><o:p> </o:p></i></div> <ol style="margin-top:0in" start="2" type="1"> <li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo3"><span style="color:#333333;background:white">Under a “Clearly Erroneous” standard of review, the appeals panel must accept the evaluator’s or dispute panel’s findings of fact unless the appeals panel is definitely and firmly convinced that a mistake has been made. In other words, it is not enough that the appeals panel may have weighed the evidence and reached a different conclusion; the evaluator’s/dispute panel’s decision will only be reversed if it is implausible in light of all the evidence.</span><i><o:p></o:p></i></li></ol> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">In theory it could be possible to have different standards of review depending on what is the issue being appealed. For example, for Conflicts of Interest determinations, we could state that such an appeal would be on a <i>De Novo</i> standard, but for all other appeals, Clearly Erroneous. As a reminder, here are the different types of appeals:<o:p></o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></div> <ol style="margin-top:0in" start="1" type="a"> <li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7"><u>Evaluations</u><o:p></o:p></li><ol style="margin-top:0in" start="1" type="a"> <li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7">Background Screening<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7">String Similarity<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7">DNS Stability<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7">Geographic Names<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7">Technical / Operational Evaluation<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7">Financial Evaluation<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7">Registry Services<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7">Applicant Support<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7">Community Priority Evaluation<o:p></o:p></li></ol> </ol> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <ol style="margin-top:0in" start="2" type="a"> <li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7"><u>Objections</u><o:p></o:p></li><ol style="margin-top:0in" start="1" type="a"> <li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7">String Confusion<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7">Legal Rights Objection<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7">Limited Public Interest<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7">Community Objection<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level2 lfo7">Conflict of Interest of Panelists.<o:p></o:p></li></ol> </ol> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><i><span style="color:red">My personal recommendation is that all appeals except for the Conflict of Interest appeals have a “Clearly Erroneous” standard.</span></i><span style="color:red"> <i>Conflict of Interests should be reviewed under a De Novo Standard</i>. To review anything else <i>De Novo</i> would be incredibly time consuming, costly, and could substantially delay applications. ICANN should have a thorough screening process to pick its evaluators/panelists and deference to their determinations should be given. 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