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<p class="MsoNormal">Jamie,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">A couple of points:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l4 level1 lfo7">I think at a high level the group agrees that an applicant who is successful in an appeal from an evaluation should not have to bear the costs of that appeal.  How the appeals adjudicator is paid
 in such a case should not be our concern – meaning we should not dictate whether ICANN pays or the evaluator just eats the costs.  We only need to recommend that the Applicant should not have to.<o:p></o:p></li><ol start="1" type="a">
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l4 level2 lfo7">In the very few cases ICANN had to re-do an evaluation (less than we can count on one hand), either ICANN or the evaluator bore the cost.  It is not important who bore the cost but just that the successful
 appellant did not.<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l4 level1 lfo7">If there is an appeals process, which for which I believe there is support, then the number of appeals and the costs of those appeals, I would argue would be directly correlated to the standard of
 review:<o:p></o:p></li><ol start="1" type="a">
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l4 level2 lfo7">If we have a <i>De Novo</i> review, then the costs are likely to increase (as you are essentially re-doing the evaluation), and the success rate of appeals is likely to increase especially where reasonable
 minds can differ on an outcome.  This could result in an overall increase in the costs of the New gTLD program for all of the applicants.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l4 level2 lfo7">If we have a <i>clearly erroneous</i> standard, then there are likely to be less successful appeals (unless the evaluators are really incompetent), and therefore, ICANN bearing the costs of successful
 appeals (Or the evaluator bearing the costs), would generally not result in an overall increase of the costs of the program.<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l4 level1 lfo7">This brings me back to my original recommendation:<o:p></o:p></li><ol start="1" type="a">
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l4 level2 lfo7">For all appeals (other than conflict of interest), we should only use the
<i>clearly erroneous</i> standard.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l4 level2 lfo7">For conflicts of interest appeals, which are very fact specific, it makes more sense to use a
<i>do novo</i> standard.  <o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So, lets get some more comments on the Standard of Review.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Jeff Neuman</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Senior Vice President <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Com Laude | Valideus</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">D: +1.703.635.7514<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">E:
</span><u><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0563C1"><a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jamie Baxter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 17, 2019 8:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Steve Chan <steve.chan@icann.org>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Appeals Standard of Review<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:black">Thanks Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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 on addressing evaluation costs resulting from applicants prevailing in accountability mechanisms, as outlined in my example.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:black">I believe this is important to understand as the group continues discussing how to handle costs related to the appeals process under consideration. I believe it
 provides valued insights on how evaluators/panels are held to account (if at all) according to the contracts ICANN has established with the service providers. Presumably ICANN has consider a contingency for when third party contractors make mistakes or don't
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Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Appeals Standard of Review<br>
From: Steve Chan <<a href="mailto:steve.chan@icann.org">steve.chan@icann.org</a>><br>
Date: Wed, October 16, 2019 4:14 pm<br>
To: Jamie Baxter <<a href="mailto:jamie@dotgay.com">jamie@dotgay.com</a>>, Jim Prendergast <<a href="mailto:jim@GALWAYSG.COM">jim@GALWAYSG.COM</a>>,<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Dear Jamie, Jim, all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">The vendor selection process was subject to an open, competitive bidding process. You can find a timeline of events, including the initial publication of the call
 for Expressions of Interest (EOIs), the list of respondents, and the ultimate selection of evaluation panels here:
<a href="https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/about/evaluation-panels-selection-process" target="_blank">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Gnso-newgtld-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Jamie Baxter <<a href="mailto:jamie@dotgay.com">jamie@dotgay.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, October 16, 2019 at 12:29 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Jim Prendergast <<a href="mailto:jim@GALWAYSG.COM">jim@GALWAYSG.COM</a>>, Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Appeals Standard of Review<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:black">As raised on a prior call discussing who covers the cost of appeals, I think there is value in understanding ICANN's current practice and/or policy with handling
 additional evaluator/panelist expenses that come from applicants prevailing in accountability mechanisms. For example, who was responsible for the expenses behind the EIU conducting the 2nd CPE on .GAY when the Board confirmed the EIU's panelists/evaluators
 did not follow proper procedure? </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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 mechanisms they may be subject to.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">-------- Original Message --------<br>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Appeals Standard of Review<br>
From: Jim Prendergast <<a href="mailto:jim@GALWAYSG.COM" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext">jim@GALWAYSG.COM</span></a>><br>
Date: Tue, October 15, 2019 4:39 pm<br>
To: Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</span></a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a>"<br>
<<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a>></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Jeff – on you recommendation -
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:red">.  ICANN should have a thorough screening process to pick its evaluators/panelists and deference to their determinations should be given. </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Neuman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Appeals Standard of Review</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Under a “<i>De Novo”</i> standard of review, the appeals panel is essentially deciding the issues without reference to any of the conclusions or assumptions made by the evaluator/dispute panel. 
 It can refer to the evaluator/dispute panel to determine the facts, but it need not defer to any of the findings or conclusions.  It would be as if the appeals panel is hearing the facts for the first time.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">Under a “Clearly Erroneous” standard of review, the appeals panel must accept the evaluator’s or dispute panel’s findings of fact unless the appeals panel is definitely
 and firmly convinced that a mistake has been made. In other words, it is not enough that the appeals panel may have weighed the evidence and reached a different conclusion; the evaluator’s/dispute panel’s decision will only be reversed if it is implausible
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 we could state that such an appeal would be on a <i>De Novo</i> standard, but for all other appeals, Clearly Erroneous.  As a reminder, here are the different types of appeals:</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:red">My personal recommendation is that all appeals except for the Conflict of Interest appeals have a “Clearly Erroneous” standard.</span></i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:red"> 
  <i>Conflict of Interests should be reviewed under a De Novo Standard</i>.  To review anything else
<i>De Novo</i> would be incredibly time consuming, costly, and could substantially delay applications.  ICANN should have a thorough screening process to pick its evaluators/panelists and deference to their determinations should be given.  But determinations
 of Conflict of Interest seem to me to be appropriate for a De Novo standard because the original determination could be made by the party against whom the assertion of a conflict is made.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Jeff Neuman</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Com Laude | Valideus<br>
</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">1751 Pinnacle Drive
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