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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Thanks Christopher,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>This proposed measure is just a “last resort safety measure” – and one that is super easy to incorporate into the RA (Registry Agreement): If you haven’t had a sunrise – there is no expectation of a contact renewal. It’s that short:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>“Finalization of the Sunrise phase (if applicable) is requisite for contract renewal”</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>The “if applicable” excludes Spec 13 registries. It’s 12 simple words. If you did not manage to enter Sunrise in a DECADE; then you aren’t a registry operator; you are a failure. And I fail to understand why ICANN should continue to entrust you with a vital, impacting piece of DNS infrastructure – if you fail to serve the community.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Alexander.berlin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> lists@christopherwilkinson.eu [mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu] <br><b>Sent:</b> Donnerstag, 21. November 2019 13:05<br><b>To:</b> gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<br><b>Cc:</b> alexander@schubert.berlin<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Use Requirement for 2nd round new gTLDs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Good evening:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I support the general direction of Alexander’s proposal: to strongly discourage, indeed penalise, the warehousing of un-used strings.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>However, ten years is far too long for these purposes.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The proposal does not address the specific risk of geo-names Registries (a) accumulating geo-names for speculative purposes and (b) incorporating the Registries outside the jurisdiction of the countries concerned. These conditions are open to unacceptable abuses, and long running disputes in the future.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>CW<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 20 Nov 2019, at 17:49, Alexander Schubert <<a href="mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin">alexander@schubert.berlin</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Dear Jeff,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>As discussed on the call yesterday here a brief suggestion regarding a “use requirement”. First a summary of my suggestion:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The new RA (Registry Agreement) should contain a clause that denies contract renewal if registries have not had a Sunrise registration phase (Spec-13 Brand Registries would be exempted from this clause).</span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Here my rationale for this:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Obviously the 2007 PDP demanded a use requirement. Hence currently registries face steep penalties for not contracting (application will be withdrawn) and not testing/entering the root (cancelation of the contract).<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Let’s be cognizant of the 3 gTLD categories that emerged in 2012:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:72.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>1.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Spec 13 gTLDs (Brands)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:72.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>2.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Geo gTLDs (mainly cities)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:72.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>3.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>All others<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>We can’t always find “one size fits all” solutions – and claim that in absence of a global solution we will not create ANY solution at all. That said: I can’t speak for the category 1. And as Martin Sutton said on the Monday GNSO call: if “use” was defined by “number of domains”: nothing more easy than registering a number of domains. So yes: for brand gTLDs it’s nifty to “define” a “use requirement” – maybe someone else can come up with a solution for Spec-13 registries.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>BUT: For categories 2 and 3 I think the solution is simple! We already steeply penalize if the prospective registry doesn’t contract or engage in testing. There are grace periods to do so (I think 9 month). We could use the same grace period for “startup” – which is opening the string up for registrations in Sunrise!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>At BARE minimum we should put into the new RA (Registry Agreement) that failure for categories 2 and 3 (non-Spec-13 registries) to startup (start sunrise) WILL be a reason to deny contract renewal! A DECADE of not starting up should be a clear sign of failure.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>This solution is NOT impacting Spec 13 applicants. We can discuss separately whether or not we wish to add a “use requirement” for them as well. This solution would also NOT impact 2012 round new gTLDs.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Alexander.berlin<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>_______________________________________________<br>Gnso-newgtld-wg mailing list<br></span><a href="mailto:Gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#954F72'>Gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br></span><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#954F72'>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br>_______________________________________________<br>By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (</span><a href="https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#954F72'>https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>) and the website Terms of Service (</span><a href="https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#954F72'>https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>). 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