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<p>Hi Marc, If you are going to quote me, I would ask that you
please do it accurately.</p>
<p>As regards your point below, it sounds like the gTLD operator IS
using the gTLD space, as another commenter pointed out. <br>
</p>
<p>Kathy<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/21/2019 2:28 PM,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"
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style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">Kathy,<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">I don’t think
that this proposal is fundamental, basic, or
incontrovertible and you should be careful about using
words like “incontrovertible” to describe things that are
your opinion. First, why should someone lose their gTLD
if they are still figuring out their business model or
facing some challenges in implementation?
<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">Second, what
does “use” mean? What if a gTLD operator wanted to
operate a business model that was not based on selling
domain names – for example a social network or other
platform providing services – and wanted the gTLD to be
able to operate this platform in a secure space and just
used one promotional second level name so that users could
access the platform but would not offer second levels to
third parties? That would be quite innovative, and it has
been stated innumerable times that one of the purposes of
the new gTLD program was to foster innovation in the
domain name space. While there hasn’t been much
innovation in new gTLDs, Alex’s proposal will ensure that
there never will be and the only business model allowed
for gTLDs other than .brands will be selling names.
There is no innate incontrovertible human right to be
able to register any domain name in any gTLD and as
Kristine pointed out, Alex’s proposal attempts to solve a
problem that doesn’t exist.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kathy Kleiman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Use Requirement
for 2nd round new gTLDs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Alexander's proposal below seems fundamental and basic, and
almost incontrovertible. If you are going to ask for a gTLD
space, use it. That makes sense and is a underlying premise
of much of the Applicant Guidebook with its roll-out
provisions.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I support. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Best, Kathy<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 11/20/2019 11:49 AM, Alexander
Schubert wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Jeff,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">As discussed on the call yesterday here a
brief suggestion regarding a “use requirement”. First a
summary of my suggestion:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b>The new RA
(Registry Agreement) should contain a clause that denies
contract renewal if registries have not had a Sunrise
registration phase (Spec-13 Brand Registries would be
exempted from this clause).</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Here my rationale for this:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Obviously the
2007 PDP demanded a use requirement. Hence currently
registries face steep penalties for not contracting
(application will be withdrawn) and not testing/entering the
root (cancelation of the contract).
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Let’s be
cognizant of the 3 gTLD categories that emerged in 2012:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span
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</span></span><!--[endif]-->Spec 13 gTLDs (Brands)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span
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</span></span><!--[endif]-->Geo gTLDs (mainly cities)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span
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</span></span><!--[endif]-->All others <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">We can’t always
find “one size fits all” solutions – and claim that in
absence of a global solution we will not create ANY solution
at all. That said: I can’t speak for the category 1. And as
Martin Sutton said on the Monday GNSO call: if “use” was
defined by “number of domains”: nothing more easy than
registering a number of domains. So yes: for brand gTLDs
it’s nifty to “define” a “use requirement” – maybe someone
else can come up with a solution for Spec-13 registries.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">BUT: For
categories 2 and 3 I think the solution is simple! We
already steeply penalize if the prospective registry doesn’t
contract or engage in testing. There are grace periods to do
so (I think 9 month). We could use the same grace period for
“startup” – which is opening the string up for registrations
in Sunrise!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">At BARE minimum
we should put into the new RA (Registry Agreement) that
failure for categories 2 and 3 (non-Spec-13 registries) to
startup (start sunrise) WILL be a reason to deny contract
renewal! A DECADE of not starting up should be a clear sign
of failure. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">This solution is
NOT impacting Spec 13 applicants. We can discuss separately
whether or not we wish to add a “use requirement” for them
as well. This solution would also NOT impact 2012 round new
gTLDs.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Alexander.berlin<o:p></o:p></p>
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