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<p class="MsoNormal">Chris,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Where outside the US does cybersquatting refer to anything other the trademarks?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The fact that YOU may regard any accumulation by a Registry of whatever strings for speculative purposes as cybersquatting is great but I am not sure that anyone else does. But so I understand you, the accumulation of domains at the second
level for speculative purposes is fine – just not at the top level? What is the distinction – there is only one of each?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Finally, you may consider that a gTLD registry is providing a public service to Registrars and Registrants but that does not make it so. In fact it is clearly not so – gTLD registry operators are private entities that in many cases are
driven by profit but may also be driven by other motivations. This is most evident with .brands but also evident in virtually all other gTLDs. Similarly, registrars are not providing a public service to registrants – they are private companies driven by
profit and other considerations. gTLDs are not natural resources and your view of the DNS does not align with reality.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#003359">Marc H. Trachtenberg</span></b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> lists@christopherwilkinson.eu [mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 26, 2019 10:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Trachtenberg, Marc H. (Shld-Chi-IP-Tech) <trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman@comlaude.com>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Use Requirement for 2nd round new gTLDs Summary<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Limiting cybersquatting to trademarks is a peculiarly US consideration. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I regard ANY accumulation by a Registry of whatever strings for speculative purposes as cybersquatting - or if you prefer it - by any other name.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regarding innovation, I consider that a gTLD Registry is providing a public service to Registrars and Registrants. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 26 Nov 2019, at 16:55, <<a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com">trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</a>> <<a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com">trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Can you please clarify your comment below as I am having difficulty understanding your point. Are you arguing that we should not try to enable innovation at the gTLD level and that innovation can only occur at the second (or third) level?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">With respect to cybersquatting, that occurs when someone registers a domain name in a bad faith attempt to profit from another’s trademark. As so many of you have pointed out, no one has any rights to a generic or nonsense term that is
not used as an indicator of source (i.e., a trademark). So what cybersquatting are you referring to?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:trac@gtlaw.com"><span style="color:purple">trac@gtlaw.com</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>|<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.gtlaw.com/"><span style="color:#003359">www.gtlaw.com</span></a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg [<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, November 26, 2019 2:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Use Requirement for 2nd round new gTLDs Summary<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> I do not accept the ’innovation' argument at the gTLD level. The main argument for innovation and intelligence on the Internet has been that it takes place at the periphery. Indeed it does. In this context that means innovation by the
Registrant. As I have said before, the economic rent of a good name should accrue to the Registrant (which is also why I oppose premium pricing.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The principal issue here is not innovation, It is speculation. From cybersquatting the dictionary at the second level, we would be moving towards legitimatising cybersquatting the Gazetteers at the top level. No.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 25 Nov 2019, at 16:31, Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com"><span style="color:purple">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This conversation demonstrates exactly why it is so difficult to put into place restrictions like a “use” requirement. In trying to sum up where we are:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u>Proposal:</u><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Unless exempt, you must complete a Sunrise phase prior to contract renewal (10 years). Spec 13 Registries would be exempt from this requirement.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u>What is the problem we are trying to Solve?</u><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">From Alex’s e-mails, it seems like the argument is that not “using” a TLD for an extended amount of time essentially takes that TLD out of circulation and that “someone else might be able” to use it; “<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">All
kinds of big corps will be talked into “secure your killer keyword – before your competition does.”</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">From Kathy K.: “If you are going to ask for a gTLD space, use it” and this “is a underlying premise of much of the Applicant Guidebook with its roll-out provisions.”<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">From Christopher: “to s<span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">to
strongly discourage, indeed penalise, the warehousing of un-used strings.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Supported by Jorge</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">Kristine: No one has agreed this is even an issue or problem; This forces everyone into a singular model (namely always selling domain names to third parties.”; ICANN already has a number of restrictions
that stand in the way of innovation; “<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">Let’s stop accusing businesses of bad faith (claims that the intent was to “shut down a vertical” are just that) just because they haven’t found the right
niche given all the ICANN business restrictions.”</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">Marc: What does “use” mean?; This would not foster innovation; This would only ensure one business model; “<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">There is no innate incontrovertible human right
to be able to register any domain name in any gTLD and as Kristine pointed out, Alex’s proposal attempts to solve a problem that doesn’t exist.”; No evidence that corporations are trying to shut down a vertical</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">Maxim: What is the problem we are trying to solve?; There were a number of things that happened in 2012 round which impacted Registries plans for launch<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">Supported by Martin<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">Rubens: The fact that ICANN changed a number of things made it more difficult to launch the TLD in Latin America; this will discriminate against the Global South<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We need to hear from the rest of the group as to what their thoughts are. Also, if there is a real issue, we need to have evidence to show the problem. Otherwise we are developing a solution to something that many do not agree is a problem?
What is the harm caused by not having this rule in place? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">E:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><u><span style="color:#0563C1"><a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com"><span style="color:purple">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</span></a></span></u></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span style="color:purple">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Marc Trachtenberg via Gnso-newgtld-wg<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, November 22, 2019 4:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin"><span style="color:purple">alexander@schubert.berlin</span></a>;<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org"><span style="color:purple">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Use Requirement for 2nd round new gTLDs<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Correct. Apple has no inherent right for .Apple. That’s why they had to apply for it along with anyone else who wanted it. And if someone else was willing to pay more in a public or private auction that other company would be the RO
for .apple and Apple could apply for something else in the next or subsequent rounds. Of course Apple has a right to stop infringing and abusive uses of .Apple but that is a different question.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Shareholder<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="color:#1F497D"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg [<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span style="color:purple">mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Alexander Schubert<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, November 22, 2019 2:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org"><span style="color:purple">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Use Requirement for 2nd round new gTLDs<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">So APPLE has no inherent right or need for .apple? Is it that what you are saying? They could apply for .appleinc for example, right?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com"><span style="color:purple">trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com"><span style="color:purple">mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Freitag, 22. November 2019 15:10<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin"><span style="color:purple">alexander@schubert.berlin</span></a>;<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org"><span style="color:purple">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Use Requirement for 2nd round new gTLDs<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">He should be able to wait as long as he wants or needs to. What is the worst case scenario – there are only 999,998 TLDs instead of 1,000,000? Again, there is no inherent right (or need) to have every possible combination of letters and
numbers be a TLD and be able to register domains in it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Shareholder<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="color:#1F497D"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg [<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span style="color:purple">mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, November 22, 2019 1:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org"><span style="color:purple">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I understand you. But how long more do you want to wait? 10 years? 25 years? If you can’t launch the string: someone else might be able. Create a white label registrar for example. There are many countries that
do NOT have ICANN registrars. Latvia for example. Does that mean there should never be a .riga?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Freitag, 22. November 2019 12:26<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org"><span style="color:purple">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Use Requirement for 2nd round new gTLDs<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">At the time we applied, there was no indication that then current registrars with RAA 2009 wouldn't be able to sell 2012 gTLDs; when the RA was finalised, this suddenly
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accreditations instead of on boarding new, cumbersome requirements that were added to RAA mostly due to pressures from developed countries. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">So, ICANN Org failed us miserably in a lot of ways, and you are suggesting that even in that condition we would be obliged to launch expeditiously ? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Em 20 de nov de 2019, à(s) 13:49:000, Alexander Schubert <<a href="mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin"><span style="color:purple">alexander@schubert.berlin</span></a>> escreveu:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The new RA (Registry Agreement) should contain a clause that denies contract renewal if registries have not had a Sunrise registration phase (Spec-13 Brand Registries would be exempted from this clause).</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Obviously the 2007 PDP demanded a use requirement. Hence currently registries face steep penalties for not contracting (application will be withdrawn) and not testing/entering the root (cancelation of the
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">We can’t always find “one size fits all” solutions – and claim that in absence of a global solution we will not create ANY solution at all. That said: I can’t speak for the category 1. And as Martin Sutton
said on the Monday GNSO call: if “use” was defined by “number of domains”: nothing more easy than registering a number of domains. So yes: for brand gTLDs it’s nifty to “define” a “use requirement” – maybe someone else can come up with a solution for Spec-13
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">BUT: For categories 2 and 3 I think the solution is simple! We already steeply penalize if the prospective registry doesn’t contract or engage in testing. There are grace periods to do so (I think 9 month).
We could use the same grace period for “startup” – which is opening the string up for registrations in Sunrise!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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