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<p class="MsoNormal">But can you squat on generic terms or nonsense strings that have no meaning?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#003359">Marc H. Trachtenberg</span></b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black"><br>
Shareholder </span><span style="color:#1F497D"><br>
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Tel 312.456.1020 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">Mobile 773.677.3305<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:trac@gtlaw.com">trac@gtlaw.com</a> |
<a href="http://www.gtlaw.com/"><span style="color:#003359">www.gtlaw.com</span></a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Gnso-newgtld-wg [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alexander Schubert<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 26, 2019 10:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Use Requirement for 2nd round new gTLDs Summary<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="color:#0E0E3F">*EXTERNAL TO GT*</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Christopher is right.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You can squatt on Trademarks. Company names. Political Slogans. City-names. Religions. Parties. Even Presidents.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You can cybersquatt on domains, twitter handles, gTLDs or Facebook group names.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cybersquatting is "taking ownership" of a digital identifier in order to either harm others or force them into a buyout. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Alexander<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;color:#364F67">Sent from my Samsung device<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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From: <a href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>
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Date: 11/26/19 11:06 (GMT-05:00) <br>
To: <a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com">trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</a> <br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a> <br>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Use Requirement for 2nd round new gTLDs Summary <br>
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Marc Trachtenberg:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Limiting cybersquatting to trademarks is a peculiarly US consideration. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I regard ANY accumulation by a Registry of whatever strings for speculative purposes as cybersquatting - or if you prefer it - by any other name.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regarding innovation, I consider that a gTLD Registry is providing a public service to Registrars and Registrants. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 26 Nov 2019, at 16:55, <<a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com">trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</a>> <<a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com">trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Can you please clarify your comment below as I am having difficulty understanding your point. Are you arguing that we should not try to enable innovation at the gTLD level and that innovation can only occur at the second (or third) level?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">With respect to cybersquatting, that occurs when someone registers a domain name in a bad faith attempt to profit from another’s trademark. As so many of you have pointed out, no one has any rights to a generic or nonsense term that is
not used as an indicator of source (i.e., a trademark). So what cybersquatting are you referring to?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#003359">Marc H. Trachtenberg</span></b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif"><br>
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Tel 312.456.1020<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">Mobile 773.677.3305</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:trac@gtlaw.com"><span style="color:purple">trac@gtlaw.com</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>|<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.gtlaw.com/"><span style="color:#003359">www.gtlaw.com</span></a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg [<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, November 26, 2019 2:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Use Requirement for 2nd round new gTLDs Summary<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> I do not accept the ’innovation' argument at the gTLD level. The main argument for innovation and intelligence on the Internet has been that it takes place at the periphery. Indeed it does. In this context that means innovation by the
Registrant. As I have said before, the economic rent of a good name should accrue to the Registrant (which is also why I oppose premium pricing.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The principal issue here is not innovation, It is speculation. From cybersquatting the dictionary at the second level, we would be moving towards legitimatising cybersquatting the Gazetteers at the top level. No.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 25 Nov 2019, at 16:31, Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com"><span style="color:purple">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This conversation demonstrates exactly why it is so difficult to put into place restrictions like a “use” requirement. In trying to sum up where we are:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Unless exempt, you must complete a Sunrise phase prior to contract renewal (10 years). Spec 13 Registries would be exempt from this requirement.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u>What is the problem we are trying to Solve?</u><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">From Alex’s e-mails, it seems like the argument is that not “using” a TLD for an extended amount of time essentially takes that TLD out of circulation and that “someone else might be able” to use it; “<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">All
kinds of big corps will be talked into “secure your killer keyword – before your competition does.”</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">From Kathy K.: “If you are going to ask for a gTLD space, use it” and this “is a underlying premise of much of the Applicant Guidebook with its roll-out provisions.”<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">From Christopher: “to s<span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">to
strongly discourage, indeed penalise, the warehousing of un-used strings.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Supported by Jorge</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2">Kristine: No one has agreed this is even an issue or problem; This forces everyone into a singular model (namely always selling domain names to third parties.”; ICANN already has a number of restrictions
that stand in the way of innovation; “<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">Let’s stop accusing businesses of bad faith (claims that the intent was to “shut down a vertical” are just that) just because they haven’t found the right
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