<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><span></span></div><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">Why can’t the applicants be required when they file the application to swear under oath that that aren’t going to use the process to game the system? Of course, proper wording would be hashed out. <br><br><div dir="ltr">Very truly yours,<br><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="" style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><div dir="auto" class="" style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Karen J. 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If you have received this communication in error, please forward the email back and delete all copies of the message and attachments.</span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Jan 16, 2020, at 4:54 PM, Mike Rodenbaugh <<a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Rubens, how would you ever prove the applicant's intent, in either case you posit?<div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">Mike Rodenbaugh</div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">RODENBAUGH LAW</div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">tel/fax: +1.415.738.8087</div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><a href="http://rodenbaugh.law" target="_blank">http://rodenbaugh.law</a> </div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 1:14 PM Rubens Kuhl <<a href="mailto:rubensk@nic.br">rubensk@nic.br</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div><br></div><Leadership Hat Off><div><br></div><div>I will start with two different although similar bad behaviours:</div><div>- Apply with no intention to actually run the TLDs, just to get into private auctions and profit from losing them. </div><div>- Apply with intent to run the TLDs, but after contention sets are revealed, change strategy to profit from losing some TLDs instead of fighting to get them. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Rubens</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 16 Jan 2020, at 17:17, Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com" target="_blank">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">All,<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On the call early this morning (for some of us), while we were discussing the goals/objectives to consider when selecting a mechanism of last resort to resolve string contention, a very important question was asked by a participant on the call. The question demonstrated that what one person believes is “Bad Faith” other people may not believe is “bad faith” with respect to mechanisms to resolve contention sets.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">So, with the e-mail chain, I would like for members of the Working Group to discuss what behaviors they would consider to be of the type that we would like to preclude? And by the same token, what are the types of activities that we know we would like to allow.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">For example, we believe from most of the comments that have come in as well as in our discussions, that some forms of private resolution have been deemed acceptable. This includes the creation of joint ventures between applicants (assuming public comment, etc.), potentially revising applications to address concerns (eg., trademark owner agrees to withdraw its application if other applicant agrees to mitigate trademark abuse), 2 trademark owners agree to modify strings to enable both to have their own TLDs (eg., .deltafaucets or .deltaair)), etc.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">We have also heard from the ICANN Board that they may believe that participating in private auctions with the sole purpose of losing and using those to fund other auctions may not be as desirable. <u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Though the next call with not be on this topic, we did want to put this issue out on e-mail. Please discuss.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Thanks.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Jeff Neuman</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Senior Vice President <u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Com Laude | Valideus<br></span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">1751 Pinnacle Drive<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Suite 600, McLean<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">VA 22102, USA<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><br>M: +1.202.549.5079<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">D: +1.703.635.7514<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">E:<span> </span></span><u><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(5,99,193)"><a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</span></a></span></u><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><br><a href="http://www.comlaude.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">www.comlaude.com</span></a></span><u><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(5,99,193)"><u></u><u></u></span></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><br><span id="gmail-m_4313776899632378605cid:image003.jpg@01D5CC80.0E2CE0C0"><image003.jpg></span><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><hr style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient. 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