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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear Marc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Let me also briefly respond… we are talking about
<b>closed</b> generics… not about generics in general. I think I made my point clear on closed generic, i.e. generics restricted to a single entity, and why I feel they do not fit well with the public interest requirement…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">As to TLDs and their difference to SLDs: this potentially long discussion would IMO only distract us…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The “.swiss” regulations on generics (which I mentioned only in a “p.s.”) is interesting inasmuch it does allow generics in the public interest, but those same public interest
requirements do not allow a “closed” generic (in the SLD space).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Jorge
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE"> trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com <trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com>
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 6. März 2020 17:01<br>
<b>An:</b> Cancio Jorge BAKOM <Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] FW: Proposal re Closed Generics<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Jorge,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I would offer this quick observation. With a virtually unlimited number of TLDs available for operation, the difference between new gTLDs second level domains in existing TLDs erodes or completely disappears and ICANN
becomes a TLD registrar Right now almost every conceivable generic term in every language is registered in .com, inarguably the most dominant TLD. The owner of each of these generic terms SLDs is in sole control of it and can either permit third parties to
“register” third level subdomains in his/her SLD or set up as many third level subdomains on the SLD (or none) has he/she wants. Yet no one complains about this “monopolization” of generic terms in SLDs and how it is against the public interest. The .swiss
limitation on registration of generic SLDs is the first I have heard of such. Is there any evidence anywhere of harm to competition or other public interests from this scenario? I have not seen it but if it exist please someone send it to me. If this is
so harmful then we should ban all generic second level registrations in all TLDs that are not in the public interest.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#003359">Marc H. Trachtenberg</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Gnso-newgtld-wg [<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch">Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 6, 2020 5:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] FW: Proposal re Closed Generics<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Dear all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Please allow me to chime in on this discussion at this stage, and share some comments…
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">In fact, the harder I think about this issue and how to equate “closed” (i.e. exclusive) registration of SLDs with “public interest”, the harder it is for me to find any possible example – as “public
interest” as core of a “generic term” in the end always leads to a <i>function</i> that can be performed by a multiplicity of institutions or organizations and cannot be circumscribed to one single entity.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">I’ve seen in the materials and discussions the example of “.disaster” as one potential closed generic. But I think that this TLD would actually best work as a generic with a restrictive eligibility
policy for SLDs: all entities complying with a set of objective criteria (e.g. being disaster relief organizations) should be allowed in.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">I cannot see any reason why such a TLD would be restricted to only one organization, even if that one is the ICRC ;P
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">The argument that otherwise anyone could get a SLD under that TLD is IMO not precise, as, as we know, the “control” ensuring that only the right people get the SLDs can be obtained through precise,
objective and non-discriminatory eligibility criteria (hence a “closed” generic is not necessary).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Jorge <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">p.s.: under Swiss regulations for «.swiss» a generic term registration (as SLD) is subject to quite exhaustive rules, including the “non-discrimination” obligation, which excludes a “closed” approach…
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE"> Gnso-newgtld-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Marc Trachtenberg via Gnso-newgtld-wg<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 3. März 2020 06:02<br>
<b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:Brian@Winterfeldt.law">Brian@Winterfeldt.law</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] FW: Proposal re Closed Generics<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Brian,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thank you for looking into this. It gave me the opportunity to review the Board resolution again as well. While you are correct to point out that the Board resolution references serving a public interest goal, I think
the Board is clear that it is doing so to address the GAC advice and not taking a position on the issue. Specifically the Board states:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#333333;background:white">Resolved (2015.06.21.NG02),
<i><u>to address the </u></i></span><i><u><span lang="EN-US">GAC<span style="color:#333333;background:white">'s Category 2.2 Safeguard Advice</span></span></u></i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#333333;background:white">, the NGPC requests that the </span><span lang="EN-US">GNSO<span style="color:#333333;background:white"> specifically
include the issue of exclusive registry access for generic strings serving a public interest goal as part of the policy work it is planning to initiate on subsequent rounds of the New </span>gTLD<span style="color:#333333;background:white"> Program, and inform
the Board on a regular basis with regards to the progress on the issue. </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Interestingly, the Board also notes in its rationale for the resolution that when the NGPC
<span style="color:#333333;background:white">requested the </span>GNSO<span style="color:#333333;background:white"> to provide guidance on the issue of closed generics the </span>GNSO<span style="color:#333333;background:white"> Council stated that, "although
the </span>GNSO<span style="color:#333333;background:white"> did not explicitly consider the issue of 'closed generic' TLDs as part of the new </span>gTLD<span style="color:#333333;background:white"> </span>PDP<span style="color:#333333;background:white">,
we recall that the issue of restricting new gTLDs was, in general, considered and discussed. At that time, it was the view within the </span>GNSO<span style="color:#333333;background:white"> that it should not be the responsibility of </span>ICANN<span style="color:#333333;background:white"> to
restrict the use of gTLDs in any manner, but instead to let new </span>gTLD<span style="color:#333333;background:white"> applicants propose various models; open or closed, generic or not."<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">The Board also notes in its rationale that:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:33.1pt;background:white"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">“</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#333333">The
comments from the community express a diversity of views on how, and whether the NGPC should implement the GAC's advice. Some of the significant themes raised by community comments, and considered by the NGPC in taking this action, are as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#333333">A Policy Development Process with respect to operating exclusive generic strings in the "public interest" should be undertaken by the community. Policy issues on "closed generic" TLDs should
be resolved through the multistakeholder process.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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in its bottom-up process and impose new evaluation criteria.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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round, but both should be subject to significant scrutiny after launch by ICANN to ensure that the interests of rights owners and consumers are protected.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:#333333">If anything is clear it is that this issue is complicated and that there are strong opinions on both sides of it. Accordingly, whatever the final decision is, I hope it is based on facts, evidence, and reason, and not
reliance on whatever the person thinks the status quo is.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 2, 2020 9:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Trachtenberg, Marc H. (Shld-Chi-IP-Tech) <<a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com">trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Dear Marc,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Re-reading the particular Board resolution on the subject from June 21, 2015, the Board resolved “that the GNSO specifically include the issue of exclusive registry access for generic strings serving
a public interest goal as part of the policy work it is planning to initiate on subsequent rounds of the New gTLD Program” and “For the remaining applicants in this round of the New gTLD Program who propose to provide exclusive registry access for a generic
string ("Exclusive Generic Applicants") … they must elect within a reasonably limited time to either: submit a change request to no longer be an exclusive generic TLD, and sign the current form of the New gTLD Registry Agreement; maintain their plan to operate
an exclusive generic TLD. As a result, their application will be deferred to the next round of the New gTLD Program, subject to rules developed for the next round, to allow time for the GNSO to develop policy advice concerning exclusive generic TLDs; or withdraw
their application for a refund consistent with the refund schedule in the Applicant Guidebook.”
<i>See </i></span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-new-gtld-2015-06-21-en*2.a__;Iw!!DUT_TFPxUQ!XkyuqsZM36VMMmchhWmN03IzlZaiKVo74ife4rF55bXVUAAz8BAhi2ss8c_H8XdIEfk$">https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-new-gtld-2015-06-21-en#2.a</a>.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">I suppose, then, you are right that it would perhaps be more accurate to say that the current status quo is merely that closed generics have to date been prohibited, but could be permitted in future
pending a change in rules through policy recommendations of this PDP (even though the resolution of course references serving a public interest goal). In any case, our position is still that closed generics should (continue to) be prohibited in future new
gTLD rounds, unless the applicant can demonstrate that operating a generic gTLD in a closed manner would serve a public interest goal (outweighing anti-competition concerns).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Brian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Gnso-newgtld-wg [<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Marc Trachtenberg via Gnso-newgtld-wg<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 28, 2020 1:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Brian Winterfeldt <<a href="mailto:Brian@Winterfeldt.law">Brian@Winterfeldt.law</a>>;
<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] FW: Proposal re Closed Generics<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Brian,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Respectfully I disagree that the status quo with respect to treatment of “closed generic” gTLDs, is that they should be prohibited unless the applicant can demonstrate a public interest reason for allowing operation as
a closed generic gTLD. As I and some others have pointed out in numerous other emails on this thread, the public interest requirement was merely GAC advice and has become the “status quo” only as a result of it being inaccurately referred to that so many
times that people accept it as fact. In my view, if anything, the status quo is one of the following:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo5"><span lang="EN-US">Closed generics are permitted because they were not prohibited in the AGB and the Board only prohibited them in the first round and directed the GNSO to make policy to address their treatment
in subsequent rounds; or<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo5"><span lang="EN-US">Closed generics are not permitted because the Board prohibited them in the first round<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Personally, I think it is #1 based on the Board making specifying that the prohibition just applied to the current round and directed the GNSO to make it policy if the ban were to apply to future rounds, but reasonable
minds can differ on that. I don’t think it is reasonable to keep saying though that the status quo is that closed generics can only exist if it is demonstrable that their existence is in the public interest based on the record.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Gnso-newgtld-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brian Winterfeldt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 27, 2020 3:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] FW: Proposal re Closed Generics<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">We generally support the current status quo with respect to treatment of “closed generic” gTLDs, namely that they should be prohibited unless the applicant can demonstrate a public interest reason
for allowing operation as a closed generic gTLD. While we appreciate that there may be some innovative uses of closed generic gTLDs in the public interest, given the potential for abuse of closed generic gTLDs (e.g. anti-competitive uses), we support prohibition
as the default (again, subject to a public interest exception, for which the applicant would bear the burden of proof). Accordingly, we would support formalizing this approach in a future iteration of the AGB. To that end, we also agree that clear criteria
for what might constitute a public interest exception should be enumerated in such text (to be developed in implementation), and that any determinations on this subject would be appealable through the existing ICANN accountability mechanisms. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Hope this input is helpful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Brian and Griffin <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Gnso-newgtld-wg [<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pruis, Elaine via Gnso-newgtld-wg<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 27, 2020 2:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:dorraink@amazon.com">dorraink@amazon.com</a>; <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">
gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] FW: Proposal re Closed Generics<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks for the response. I don’t see why a TLD would have to be a generic word to support any of the innovative concepts put forward.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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on behalf of "Dorrain, Kristine via Gnso-newgtld-wg" <</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"Dorrain, Kristine" <</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="mailto:dorraink@amazon.com"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">dorraink@amazon.com</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 12:06 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">" <</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] [Gnso-newgtld-wg] FW: Proposal re Closed Generics<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Somehow I accidentally only replied to Elaine, apologies!</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 27, 2020 9:02 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Pruis, Elaine' <<a href="mailto:epruis@verisign.com">epruis@verisign.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Proposal re Closed Generics<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">A “closed generic” is single-registrant (see Spec 9 and Spec 11 of the RA). A restricted TLD has non-RO registrants, but those registrants may have to satisfy criteria to get in, like .BANK.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Gnso-newgtld-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pruis, Elaine via Gnso-newgtld-wg<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 27, 2020 8:53 AM<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Proposal re Closed Generics<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">What’s the difference between a “restricted TLD” and a “closed generic” if the operator writes the rules to only allow registrants that fit their desired profile? <br>
What am I missing?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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on behalf of Mike Rodenbaugh <</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">mike@rodenbaugh.com</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 6:02 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Becky Burr <</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="mailto:becky.burr@board.icann.org"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">becky.burr@board.icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">" <</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I think closed generics should be allowed, just as they were in the 2012 round... until the Board's knee-jerk reaction to unsubstantiated GAC pressure.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I agree with Becky that any "public interest" criteria had better be crystal clear to give the Board guidance. But I don't think the Board should be deciding those things, at all. The entire program was designed for
the Board NOT to make such decisions. Regardless of the criteria, some disappointed applicants certainly will challenge ICANN's decisions, as is their right under the Byalws.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I'm taking no position whatsoever on the notion of public interest closed generics and/or whether an adverse decision should be appealable. That said, if you do provide for a public interest exception to the no closed
generics rule, please make the criteria crystal clear. Otherwise you should expect disappointed applicants to file IRPs on the basis of disparate treatment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">I agree. The board decision should be appealable – but if the board denies the “public interest” claim: I suggest that doesn’t have to lead
to a denial of the entire application. The applicant could have an alternative “open gTLD” application portion as well – and upon board denial of the public interest claim the applicant could decide whether they want to withdraw; or fall back to the open registration
version they submitted. Or appeal the board decision.<br>
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Also I do not see the benefit of a strict “non-profit” restriction. All my 6 next round projects are non-profit, so I obviously value the choice of non-profit applicants a lot. But I could imagine “public interest” in an exclusive access model even when the
registry is a for profit entity. In most of those cases that for profit entity would likely establish a trademark around the term. Like: “.twitter” – where TWITTER, Inc. would allow Twitter users to have their own twitter-handle matching domain (e.g.
</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.dotairport.twitter__;!!DUT_TFPxUQ!Q_YjEVU8CSS0x0AFsQE_VZOnoFx9i_X26cZfLDGEeKWVisLEWhvtOjHF-3QEvW2ELp8$" target="_blank">www.dotairport.twitter</a><span style="color:#1F497D"> instead of
the longish </span><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.twitter.com/dotairport__;!!DUT_TFPxUQ!Q_YjEVU8CSS0x0AFsQE_VZOnoFx9i_X26cZfLDGEeKWVisLEWhvtOjHF-3QEkpLUbtg$" target="_blank">www.twitter.com/dotairport</a><span style="color:#1F497D"> - why supporting
the .com gTLD brand if you have your own global brand with dozens of millions of users?). In that case (in my mind) .twitter could not be a Spec 13 registration – because the heavy restrictions in Spec 13 would in my perspective not allow all Twitter handles
to be registered as .twitter domains to be used by Twitter, Inc. clients (brand specialists: what’s your opinion on this? Do I see this too narrow?).<br>
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Actually this would apply to all social media that are based on generic terms:</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">.twitter</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">.facebook</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">.snap</span><a name="m_-4129577839174737032_m_-92115896604196"></a><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">.telegram</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Just as examples.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Is an exclusive access “.twitter” of “public interest”? Given that the brand is so impacting and all domains of an open gTLD .twitter would
be likely subject to confusion: seems to make a lot of sense to provide TWITTER, Inc. with exclusive access. We run into a clear “judgement call” here. Is “.match” (matches to make fire, matching items, etc.) better off as reserved for
</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/match.com__;!!DUT_TFPxUQ!Q_YjEVU8CSS0x0AFsQE_VZOnoFx9i_X26cZfLDGEeKWVisLEWhvtOjHF-3QEiLqm3HI$" target="_blank">match.com</a><span style="color:#1F497D"> (single platform) – or not? Do we require
the ICANN board to make these calls? What is the rationale of their decision? Gut-feeling?</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Thanks,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Alexander</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Neuman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 12:40<br>
<b>To:</b> Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>>; Mike Rodenbaugh <<a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Proposal re Closed Generics<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Alan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Can you explain why being able to assert an accountability mechanism would destroy the notion of the public interest closed TLD.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Remember, GAC Advice was fairly clear on this. It didn’t say that there should never be closed generic TLDs. It said “For strings representing generic terms, exclusive registry access should serve a public interest goal."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Your initial proposal (minus the no appeals part) to have any public interest TLD closed generic exception is rather narrow to begin with. Must be a non-profit
entity, must have a vote by Board Supermajority, etc. Justine has recommended some additional elements on top of that with strong contractual compliance provisions…..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">I am not saying I support or don’t support the proposal, but I am not sure why taking away a right to use an accountability mechanism would destroy the entire
proposal?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan Greenberg<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 25, 2020 5:49 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mike Rodenbaugh <<a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Proposal re Closed Generics<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Fine with me. But in my opinion, that means the exception for public interest TLDs will not fly and we revert to the 2012 implementation of no closed generics.<br>
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Alan<br>
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At 25/02/2020 04:32 PM, Mike Rodenbaugh wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">i do not believe the Board should be allowed to make any decisions that are not "appealable" per the IRP. If Claimant has proper standing and a dispute within
the scope of the Bylaws definition of Dispute, then they have a valid IRP claim. This is a very slippery slope to start to carve out Board decisions that have no chance of appeal, and why on Earth would we want to do that anyway?<br>
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Mike Rodenbaugh<br>
RODENBAUGH LAW<br>
tel/fax: +1.415.738.8087<br>
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On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 7:08 PM Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a> > wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">I had this in my original proposal but based on individual discussions I have had I know that some people missed it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">To have the Board make a decision that is not in any way appealable will require a Bylaw change, but it is a change for which there is another precedent that will go before the Board before out report reaches them. The Auction Proceeds CCWG
also will require a similar Bylaw amendment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Alan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">At 24/02/2020 09:46 PM, Phil Buckingham wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Hi Justine , Alan , Anne, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Justine , that̢۪s a great suggestion. The contrntractual compliance & monitoring needs to be much more rigorous in the next round .
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<span lang="EN-US">I very much support Alan̢۪s suggestion of going aheadead with new ( 2020) policy recommendations for a special use case , New TLD application category . Let̢۪s call it a Public Ic Interest TLD .
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<span lang="EN-US">I am working on a proposal ( for Friday̢۪ deadline) .) . It will incorporate the evaluation and implementation issues too.
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<span lang="EN-US">Ultimately my thoughts are we need to make policy that is so demanding , incorporating Alexander’s suggestion of a â₢€œ health warning “ that applications will not pt pass the evaluation. ICANN will need to employ & train “
evaluation experts. There will be no come backs , no second evaluation , no appeals . Once passed the evaluation The Board would need to approve ( or reject) the application by Special resolution.
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<span lang="EN-US">Your thoughts ? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Phil <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Phil Buckingham <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">On 25 Feb 2020, at 01:30, Justine Chew <<a href="mailto:justine.chew@gmail.com" target="_blank">justine.chew@gmail.com</a> > wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Perhaps this is something we could pick up under the Contractual Compliance topic.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Justine<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 at 01:39, Aikman-Scalese, Anne <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com" target="_blank">AAikman@lrrc.com</a>> wrote:
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<span lang="EN-US">Thank you Justine. This is very constructive. We would then need to think about enforcement mechanisms. Private dispute resolution process? Filing a complaint with ICANN? Positive obligation by ICANN Compliance to monitor? Accomplish
the goals below via PICs and eligibility requirements? Would appreciate your further thoughts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Just continuing the discussion so we can help create a complete proposal as this moves forward to formulate a WG recommendation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Anne<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"> gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> On Behalf Of Justine Chew
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<span lang="EN-US">Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 12:28 AM <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">To: <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">
gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Proposal re Closed Generics<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">While I remain undecided on supporting either a full ban on closed generics or (what I call) a qualified ban per the special case conditions proposed by Alan, I strongly suggest that any consideration of Alan's proposal should also include
the following:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Insertion as material in the relevant RA for a closed generic TLD that is a generic word, such terms and conditions:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">(1) to be derived from the applicant's submission on the use of the closed generic TLD as being in the public interest;
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<span lang="EN-US">(2) which prohibit any action considered as anti-competitive (eg. discriminatory registration policies in favour of certain parties or against competitors in the applicable industry);
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<span lang="EN-US">(3) which govern any dealings on the disposal and/or future use of the closed TLDs - that (1) and (2) must be adhered to at all times and by any party which operates or acquires the rights under the RA; and
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<span lang="EN-US">(4) to stipulate that launching for SLD registration for the closed generic TLD by the (first) RO must take place within 2 years of signing the RA.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">the breach of one or more of which will constitute cause for termination of the RA.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Justine <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 13:48, Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a> > wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">While talking to a colleague today, I realized a problem with my
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<span lang="EN-US">proposal. I was thinking that there would (or could ) only be a small
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<span lang="EN-US">number of applications that could be deemed to be for closed TLDs
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<span lang="EN-US">that are generic words and in the public interest. That may indeed be
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<span lang="EN-US">true. However, there may well be MANY such applications twhere the
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<span lang="EN-US">applicant beleives their use will be in the public interest, and a
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<span lang="EN-US">large load of such cases going to the Board will not work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">The change is to restrict applicants to not-for-profit entities only.
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<span lang="EN-US">This is in keeping with the nature of the one example that has been raised.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Note that due to the unfortunate timing of the SubPro meeting being
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<span lang="EN-US">scheduled in conflict with the EPDP, I will likely not be on the SubPro call.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">To make my position clear, other than this special case I am <o:p>
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<span lang="EN-US">proposing, I would NOT support the delegation of closed generics.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Alan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">At 18/02/2020 07:43 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">>The SubPro meeting today began discussing Closed Generics. <o:p>
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<span lang="EN-US">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">>One of my interventions was that although I was strongly opposed to
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">>closed generics in the general case, I did support the concept that
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<span lang="EN-US">>a closed generic could be in the public interest, with the example
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<span lang="EN-US">>of .disaster operating by the International Red Cross as the example.
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<span lang="EN-US">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">>I proposed that we allow closed generic applications, but the
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<span lang="EN-US">>decision on whether a particular application would move forward or
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<span lang="EN-US">>not would rest with the ICANN Board. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">>The Board would have to agree, by an overwhelming majority (say at
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<span lang="EN-US">>least 90% of sitting, non-conflicted, Board members) that the TLD
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<span lang="EN-US">>would be in the public interest. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">>The decision would be final and not appealable through the ICANN
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<span lang="EN-US">>Reconsideration or IRP processes. This latter condition would
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<span lang="EN-US">>require an amendment to the ICANN Bylaws to exempt such decision
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<span lang="EN-US">>from the accountability measures, but this is identical to an
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<span lang="EN-US">>amendment being recommended by the CCWG-Auction Proceeds, so there
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<span lang="EN-US">>is a current precedent. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">>If, despite the fact that the decision would have to be near <o:p>
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<span lang="EN-US">>unanimous, there is still distrust of the ICANN Board in this
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<span lang="EN-US">>matter, the approval of such TLDs could be subject to the Empowered
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<span lang="EN-US">>Community Approval or Rejection Actions (also requiring a Bylaw
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<span lang="EN-US">>change). However, in my mind, such caution would be overkill.
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<span lang="EN-US">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">>This proposal would allow a closed generic when it is clearly (in
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<span lang="EN-US">>the view of the Board) in the Public Interest. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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