<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>And then you chain that thru shell companies and you have no meaningful information of officers. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Not that shell companies are used in the business just to hide information; it also makes selling the asset easier which might attract more investment. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">That said, applicant support could be restrictive of this. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Rubens</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 10 Jun 2020, at 13:35, Alexander Schubert <<a href="mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin" class="">alexander@schubert.berlin</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Yes, all who own more than 15%!<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><a name="_MailEndCompose" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></a></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Aikman-Scalese, Anne [<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com" class="">mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mittwoch, 10. Juni 2020 19:29<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin" class="">alexander@schubert.berlin</a>; <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] FW: proposed Language for those Getting Applicant Support<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: olive;" class="">Well, for some reason I thought the principals had to be disclosed in registry applications?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: olive;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Alexander Schubert<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, June 10, 2020 9:24 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] FW: proposed Language for those Getting Applicant Support<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">[EXTERNAL]</span></strong><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-align: center;"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" class=""></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><i class=""><span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 102);" class="">“I suppose folks are concerned about the possibility of a .web style transaction in this Applicant Support context. The simple way to deal with that is just to bar transfers and get rid of any “secondary market” except in situations of failure of the registry to be able to continue to operate…”</span></i></b><b class=""><i class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></i></b></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">The problem is:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">As far as I understand the transfer of ownership can be easily facilitated in a way that it’s perfectly concealed: if you plan it upfront!<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Per today only ownership shares larger than 15% (please correct me if I am wrong) have to be reported. So all you need to do: You establish an applicant entity that is owned by 7 shell companies, each holding 14.29% ownership. In some jurisdictions shell companies cost next to nothing to establish, and almost no fees to annually renew. If you want to transfer ownership, you simply transfer the ownership of each of the 7 shell companies. This way the applicant entity has still the SAME 7 owners, none of which owns more than 15%. Sounds like a hell of administrative work, but in many poor countries it is not much difference to set up 1 plus 7 companies, instead of just one. The outside won’t know anything about the owner change, as the applicant entity is still owned by the same 7 companies.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">How far people go in that respect you can see in the list of ICANN accredited registrars (<a href="http://www.internic.net/alpha.html" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">www.internic.net/alpha.html</a>):<br class="">1020 (one thousand and twenty) LLCs, all owned by “<a href="http://dropcatch.com" class="">dropcatch.com</a>”; only set up and maintained to exercise “drop catching”:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><tbody class=""><tr style="height: 14.4pt;" class=""><td nowrap="" valign="bottom" style="padding: 0cm 5.4pt; 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height: 14.4pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="http://DropCatch.com" class="">DropCatch.com</a> 1542 LLC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></td></tr><tr style="height: 14.4pt;" class=""><td nowrap="" valign="bottom" style="padding: 0cm 5.4pt; height: 14.4pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="http://DropCatch.com" class="">DropCatch.com</a> 1543 LLC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></td></tr><tr style="height: 14.4pt;" class=""><td nowrap="" valign="bottom" style="padding: 0cm 5.4pt; height: 14.4pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="http://DropCatch.com" class="">DropCatch.com</a> 1544 LLC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></td></tr><tr style="height: 14.4pt;" class=""><td nowrap="" valign="bottom" style="padding: 0cm 5.4pt; height: 14.4pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="http://DropCatch.com" class="">DropCatch.com</a> 1545 LLC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></td></tr><tr style="height: 14.4pt;" class=""><td nowrap="" valign="bottom" style="padding: 0cm 5.4pt; height: 14.4pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">They own 1,020 out of 2,450 accredited registrars. Probably even more through affiliates. It’s of course only ONE company – they need the accreditations so they have “more shots” when going to war over expired domains.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Thanks,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Alexander<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg [<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Aikman-Scalese, Anne<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mittwoch, 10. Juni 2020 18:58<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Gnso-newgtld-wg] FW: proposed Language for those Getting Applicant Support<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 51, 0);" class="">Not sure how I missed sending this to the list but please see below.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 51, 0);" class="">Anne<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 51, 0);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Aikman-Scalese, Anne<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, June 10, 2020 8:02 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'<a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com" class="">trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</a>' <<a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</a>>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">alexander@schubert.berlin</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] proposed Language for those Getting Applicant Support<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 102);" class="">I don’t think the transfer discussion is at all “fruitless”. It is occurring in the context of policy relative to auction processes. The question of verification of a bona fide application deserving Applicant Support status and the nature of the support involved is actually a separate question. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 102);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 102);" class="">Assume we will deal with validity of Applicant Support criteria separately and that happens before you ever get to auction bidding. Right now we are discussing auctions and the % bid credit or multiplier for a VALID & VERIFIABLE Applicant Support application. I personally would support no transfer for the entire contract period unless there is an EBERO or other severe problem. Jeff is trying to strike a balance by saying that only certain circumstances merit transfer before the five year mark and was trying to respond to Marc’s suggestions. There is going to have to be some way to verify that there is no secret deal to transfer prior to the verification of Applicant Support status. I suppose folks are concerned about the possibility of a .web style transaction in this Applicant Support context. The simple way to deal with that is just to bar transfers and get rid of any “secondary market” except in situations of failure of the registry to be able to continue to operate.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 102);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 102);" class="">The notion that Applicant Support will only be a gaming mechanism needs to be addressed separately, e.g. application won’t qualify for Applicant Support if ownership and control is not transparent and cannot be verified based on the legal entity that is the Applicant.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 102);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 102);" class="">Anne<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 102);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Marc Trachtenberg via Gnso-newgtld-wg<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, June 10, 2020 6:02 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">alexander@schubert.berlin</a>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] proposed Language for those Getting Applicant Support<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">[EXTERNAL]</span></strong><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-align: center;"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" class=""></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I agree that this entire discussion is essentially fruitless and time should be focused on other more important aspects.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 51, 89);" class="">Marc H. Trachtenberg</span></b><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""><br class="">Shareholder<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><br class=""></span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">Greenberg Traurig, LLP | 77 West Wacker Drive | Suite 3100 | Chicago, IL 60601<br class="">Tel 312.456.1020<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">Mobile 773.677.3305<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><a href="mailto:trac@gtlaw.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">trac@gtlaw.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>|<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://www.gtlaw.com/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 51, 89);" class="">www.gtlaw.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><span id="cid:image001.jpg@01D63F5E.505064D0"><image001.jpg></span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg [<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Alexander Schubert<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, June 10, 2020 7:10 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] proposed Language for those Getting Applicant Support<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Obviously the entire “flipping” issue (and hence measures against it) depends very much on the way we grant applicant support – and to whom.<br class=""><br class="">I lost track; but do we enforce a connection between applicant entity and string? E.g.: an applicant from a country applying for their own language community? Or would we also support an applicant who just happens to be incorporated in a country that we deem worthy of support, but they could apply for commercial strings like .app or .shop?<br class=""><br class="">If the latter; then I tend to not support Marc’s otherwise very intelligent solution – that the applicant has to repay the support if they sell the registry. Because if you manage to win a string that has a huge secondary market value – and you have flipped it to a third party: paying back applicant support is your least concern as you are flush with cash.<br class=""><br class="">If we haven’t established the limitations (policies) around application support eligibility – then in my mind this entire discussion is essentially fruitless. Currently “2.5.4 Applicant Support” states: <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><i class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">“ICANN may put in place a fee reduction scheme for gTLD applicants from economies classified by the UN as least developed.”.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></i></b></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Oh well. So I find a couple of straw men in an underdeveloped country, rent an office, staff it with 2 (for almost zero cost as everything is inexpensive in that country, especially outside big cities), that “company” then outsources the application process to a U.S. “consultancy” (all quotation marks to highlight that they are only “so called”) – and that’s all you need to get applicant support and an auction multiplier? The consultancy might be the real beneficiary – but nobody knows: officially they are just the consultancy. Conveniently in these countries often ownership can be easily shielded from being identified (try to identify the owner of a company in a tax haven: good luck).<br class=""><br class="">Instead of trying to fix this via policing efforts that investigate after the fact; why not creating eligibility criteria that will eliminate potential fraud right away? So my question is: would we want to grant applicant support for high value generic strings that have no association to the applicant’s community (example of association would be: geo, language, culture, etc)? In other words: shouldn’t we restrict applicant support to strings that are tied to the respective community? A tribe applying for their language. A city community applying for their city in their country?<br class=""><br class="">In 2012 a lot of applicants artificially established their headquarters in countries which they have zero affiliation with. We don’t even have to fantasize of applicants sitting in the U.S. – but acting as company incorporated in tax havens: that happened already in 2012. With lots of strings.<br class=""><br class="">Who would support to formulate the eligibility criteria in a way that there isn’t any incentive to abuse the applicant support program?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">THANKS,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Alexander<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg [<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Aikman-Scalese, Anne<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dienstag, 9. Juni 2020 21:22<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</a>>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</a>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] proposed Language for those Getting Applicant Support<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Is that 3 years from winning the auction or three years from contract signing?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jeff Neuman <</span><a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, June 9, 2020 7:54 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">; Aikman-Scalese, Anne <</span><a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">AAikman@lrrc.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">mike@rodenbaugh.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] proposed Language for those Getting Applicant Support<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">[EXTERNAL]</span></strong><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-align: center;"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" class=""></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thanks Marc. I have tried to work your language in. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Re: Highlighted language: How do we word allowing assignments/change of control through the normal course of business (changing corporate entities, death or retirement of owners, etc.). If we just use the standard, you can assign to parents or subs, then that will allow reverse triangular mergers which gets around the whole no assignment/change of control rules. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><i class=""><span style="color: rgb(84, 130, 53);" class="">“If the Applicant getting Applicant Support prevails in an auction, there should be restrictions placed on the Applicant from assigning the Registry Agreement, and/or from any Change of Control for a period of no less than<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 112, 192);" class="">three (3) years</span><span style="color: rgb(84, 130, 53);" class="">. This restriction is in place to prevent gaming of the applicant support program whereby an applicant immediately transfers its ownership of a registry to a third party in exchange for any form of financial gain. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">However, legitimate assignments (e.g., changing of ownership due to death or retirement, etc., assignments to subsidiaries, etc.)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><u class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 112, 192); background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">shall be permitted</span></u><span style="color: rgb(84, 130, 53);" class="">. All assignments<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 112, 192);" class="">after such time shall be governed under the then-current Registry Agreement standard provisions; provided that any Assignment or Change of Control after the third year, but prior to the seventh (7<sup class="">th</sup>) year, shall require the applicant to repay the full amount of financial support received through the ASP Program plus an additional ten percent (10%). <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></i><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Jeff Neuman</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Senior Vice President <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Com Laude | Valideus</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="DE" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">D: +1.703.635.7514<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="DE" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">E:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span lang="DE" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</span></a><u class=""><span lang="DE" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></u></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="DE" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><</span><a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, June 9, 2020 10:18 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jeff Neuman <</span><a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">AAikman@lrrc.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">mike@rodenbaugh.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] proposed Language for those Getting Applicant Support<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Personally I think that this is a bit of “tilting at windmills” and that if people want to “game” in this way then they will find a way. Instead of trying to prevent this gaming via indefinite standards that are subject to various reasonable interpretations and will almost certainly result in disputes, I think it would be better to reduce the prohibition on assignments to a shorter period like 2 or 3 years and then just make the applicant pay back the money as a condition of assignment which mitigates any benefit that the applicant and/or assignee would get. You could even make the condition payment of the benefit received plus x% as a disincentive for such behavior that would not prohibit all assignments.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 51, 89);" class="">Marc H. Trachtenberg</span></b><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""><br class="">Shareholder<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><br class=""></span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">Greenberg Traurig, LLP | 77 West Wacker Drive | Suite 3100 | Chicago, IL 60601<br class="">Tel 312.456.1020<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">Mobile 773.677.3305<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><a href="mailto:trac@gtlaw.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">trac@gtlaw.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>|<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://www.gtlaw.com/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 51, 89);" class="">www.gtlaw.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><span id="cid:image001.jpg@01D63F5E.505064D0"><image001.jpg></span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jeff Neuman [</span><a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, June 9, 2020 8:51 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Trachtenberg, Marc H. (Shld-Chi-IP-Tech) <</span><a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">AAikman@lrrc.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">mike@rodenbaugh.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] proposed Language for those Getting Applicant Support<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thanks Marc for the comments. This was designed to set forth the principles as opposed to being the contract language, but your points are well made.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class="">The context of this discussion is that some are worried that an applicant who gets applicant support (which may include a bid credit or multiplier in an auction) get the registry and flip it for financial gain to game the system. That is why the group wanted to prohibit assignment for a period of time. In the scheme of things, 5 years after a registry signs an agreement is not that long of a period, especially if you assume that most registries will likely not launch until 6 months to a year after they sign. However, as you note, there are some assignments/change of control that may be necessary and not intended to “game the system” (hence the term legitimate, but understand you concerns about that term). <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Do you have some alternative language that would work in this case that achieves what we are trying to achieve? <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Thanks.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Jeff Neuman</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Senior Vice President <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Com Laude | Valideus</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">D: +1.703.635.7514<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">E:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</span></a><u class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></u></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><</span><a href="mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, June 9, 2020 8:53 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jeff Neuman <</span><a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">AAikman@lrrc.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">mike@rodenbaugh.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] proposed Language for those Getting Applicant Support<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Sorry to be late to the party on this one. I echo Mike’s concerns that 5 years is a long time. Additionally, I am concerned with the use of “legitimate”. I understand the intent and the examples are helpful, but words like “legitimate” are almost certain to be disputed later. Also, there is no exchange that would involve financial gain (another term open to interpretation) which could be “legitimate”? And what about situations where the registry will otherwise fail if the RO does not sell? The RO should instead fail and the TLD should go through the ICANN process – this is a better outcome? I am also concerned with giving ICANN the ability to “reasonably” withhold its consent to an assignment. ICANN does not always act reasonably and when ICANN even arguably has discretion to make decisions things don’t always turn out so well…<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 51, 89);" class="">Marc H. Trachtenberg</span></b><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""><br class="">Shareholder<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><br class=""></span><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">Greenberg Traurig, LLP | 77 West Wacker Drive | Suite 3100 | Chicago, IL 60601<br class="">Tel 312.456.1020<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">Mobile 773.677.3305<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><a href="mailto:trac@gtlaw.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">trac@gtlaw.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>|<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://www.gtlaw.com/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 51, 89);" class="">www.gtlaw.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><span id="cid:image001.jpg@01D63F5E.505064D0"><image001.jpg></span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg [</span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Jeff Neuman<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, June 9, 2020 7:40 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Aikman-Scalese, Anne <</span><a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">AAikman@lrrc.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">>; Mike Rodenbaugh <</span><a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">mike@rodenbaugh.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] proposed Language for those Getting Applicant Support<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(14, 14, 63);" class="">*EXTERNAL TO GT*</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thanks Anne, you are correct that the However, sentence is not complete. So, please find the rest of the sentence:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><i class=""><span style="color: rgb(84, 130, 53);" class="">“If the Applicant getting Applicant Support prevails in an auction, there should be restrictions placed on the Applicant from assigning the Registry Agreement, and/or from any Change of Control for a period of no less than five (5) years. This restriction is in place to prevent gaming of the applicant support program whereby an applicant immediately transfers its ownership of a registry to a third party in exchange for any form of financial gain. However, legitimate assignments (e.g., changing of ownership due to death or retirement, etc., assignments to subsidiaries, etc.)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><u class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 112, 192);" class="">shall be permitted</span></u><span style="color: rgb(84, 130, 53);" class="">. All assignments must have ICANN's consent, which consent may be reasonably withheld. In the event of a change of control after the first five (5) years but during the remaining first term of the registry agreement, the applicant should be required to repay the financial support that they received.”</span></i><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Jeff Neuman</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Senior Vice President <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Com Laude | Valideus</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="DE" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">D: +1.703.635.7514<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="DE" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">E:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span lang="DE" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</span></a><u class=""><span lang="DE" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></u></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="DE" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Aikman-Scalese, Anne <</span><a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">AAikman@lrrc.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, June 8, 2020 3:17 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mike Rodenbaugh <</span><a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">mike@rodenbaugh.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">>; Jeff Neuman <</span><a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] proposed Language for those Getting Applicant Support<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I like the five years. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">The sentence that begins with “However” does not appear to be a complete sentence.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Why are we limiting the reimbursement provision to the second half of the contract?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Thanks,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Anne<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-newgtld-wg <</span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Mike Rodenbaugh<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, June 8, 2020 12:10 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jeff Neuman <</span><a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] proposed Language for those Getting Applicant Support<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; 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