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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="m_524062069809834341__MailEndCompose">+1 to Paul.  Everyone does not agree with that position.<u></u><u></u></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Gnso-newgtld-wg [mailto:<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>McGrady, Paul D.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 29, 2020 4:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com" target="_blank">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</a>>; Cheryl Langdon-Orr <<a href="mailto:langdonorr@gmail.com" target="_blank">langdonorr@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Package 6<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">I was under the impression that we were going to discuss Closed Generics again, but I see it is Package 6.  Is Closed Generics not on the agenda for upcoming
 calls?  If it is, how can we be doing the so-called “Can’t live with” exercise when the topic isn’t closed on the calls?    <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Also, I see that the text indicates that the WG agrees the Board instituted a ban on them in the last round.  That is not what the Board resolution says – and
 in fact there was much discussion on the calls and chat about how “ban” does not apply.  There were three options:  (1) make a change to non-exclusive access, (2) maintain & defer to the next round, or (3) withdraw. Is there a way to make that section reflect
 the actual facts before we have to undertake the so-called “can’t live with” exercise? The way it is written now essentially takes the starting position of the part of the WG that wants to censor closed generics and implies everyone agrees with it. That isn’t
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