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<div style="direction: ltr;">Thanks George. </div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">This is helpful, but I am not sure that any part of the Board resolution or rationale necessarily supports the notion that the default position be an outright ban. In reading the resolution and rationale again, one could read that
as meaning that the board was not looking to ban closed generics altogether, but was looking for guidance as to how applications for closed generics could be evaluated as “serving a public interest goal.”</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">And frankly, I would have loved the Board to have phrased their request in a more precise manner. Rather than asking for blanket advice on the topic of closed generics, it should have asked the GNSO to develop the criteria for
measuring whether an application serves a public interest goal. That would have started our work on better footing.
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<div style="direction: ltr;">MY PERSONAL VIEW AND HONEST ASSESSMENT FOLLOWS:</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">The issue we have, as you probably are aware by now, is that opponents of closed generics do not believe that there is any way at all that closed generics could serve a public interest goal and therefore have been immovable on any
tests or criteria that have been proposed to measure public interest. On the other hand, there are proponents of closed generics that are trying to suggest mechanisms which many have found to be extremely broad.</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">So long as opponents of closed generics believe the status quo to be that there is a “ban” on closed generics, there has been little to no incentive for them to develop a compromise position. Alternatively, those that cite the
fact that the AGB had no prohibition on closed generics, believe that the status quo from a policy perspective is that there is no such prohibition.
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<div style="direction: ltr;">Therein lies the dilemma that we have and why we must insist that the language in this section of the report be objective and not lean in either direction. We must only use language in the resolution itself (and the rationale).
But we should not be interpreting the language any further. The Board never uses the term “prohibition” or “ban”. The Board of course also never states that it should be allowed and therefore we should be stating that in the section either of course. </div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">We will be soliciting comments of course on this section and will send a letter to Board asking for its comments as well (just as we did for the Initial and Supplemental Initial Reports). I would love for them to come back and
clarify their request.</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">SIDE NOTE: On the reporting aspect, the Board has been kept up to date on our deliberations on this issue and others (from my understanding) through ICANN Org (first Akram, then Cyrus) and now the Board has 2 liaisons that observe
our work (Becky and Avri). No other formal mechanism for such reporting was established.</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">Sorry for the long note, but I truly do appreciate your guidance on this subject and look forward to continuing the discussion.</div>
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<b>To:</b> Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Kleiman Kathy <kathy@kathykleiman.com>; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org <gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org><br>
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<div class="">I've looked at what Kathy posted, and I think that the working group may want to do so again and reconsider what I believe is the working group's current position. I speak here only as an individual having a stake in the continued successful
evolution, improvement and use of the Internet.</div>
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<div class="">Every resolution passed by the Board in the last 10 years had had a "resolved" component and a "rationale" part, and I believe that this practice continues to this day. The rationale part was added to provide more extensive explanation of what
the resolution says and why it says it. It might surprise you to know that during my tenure the Board spent as much time wordsmithing the rationale as it spent wordsmithing the resolution itself. We wanted to ensure that there was an adequate understanding
of what we said.</div>
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<div class="">I admit that the resolved part of the resolution in question has an ambiguity in it, which I think has led to your current quandary that you don't know what the current status quo is. However, I think that the rationale provides more information
and removes much if not all of the uncertainty about the status quo. Here is one of the paragraphs from the rationale:</div>
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interest goal as part of the policy work it is planning to initiate on subsequent rounds of the New gTLD Program, and inform the Board on a regular basis with regards to the progress on the issue. The President and CEO should provide the GNSO with information
needed to support this request.” </span></i><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-new-gtld-2015-06-21-en" class="" style="color:blue">https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-new-gtld-2015-06-21-en</a></span></div>
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<div class="">First, the text refers to the GNSO's plans for solving this issue for subsequent rounds (plural) of the New gTLD program and report progress to the Board. This leads me to conclude that the Board's advice in the resolution applies to both this
and to other rounds in the future. If the Board's advice were to expire after the 2011 round, there would be no point for the Board to provide any advice or make any requests for the future. The board was interested in having the status quo, i.e. prohibition
until the GNSO acted, followed until the GNSO could come up with its own policy. Second, the Board specifically asked the GNSO tomake progress on this issue in the future and report such progress to the Board. From what I now understand, there has been little
progress and no reporting of any formal sort.</div>
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<div class="">I conclude that the status quo is now well defined as a prohibition on generic strings until such time as the GNSO can report back an agreed upon policy to the Board, and that at present there is no agreed upon such policy.</div>
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<div class="">Jeff, I hope that the working group will consider and accept the thrust of this conclusion. IMO it will be a significant process error and a public embarrassment if the working group consciously decides to ignore the clarification that the 2015
NGPC (passed on behalf of the full Board) formulated and incorporated into their resolution text.</div>
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<div class="">I expect to be on the call next Monday/Tuesday for further discussion of this issue if anyone wants to do so.</div>
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<div class=""> On Jul 11, 2020, at 1:38 PM, Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com" class="">jeff@jjnsolutions.com</a>> wrote:
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Your position is noted as well as your objection. However, if the rest of the Working Group is fine with the objective language we have drafted, then we will include the version that was sent out. The public can submit comments and we will then again revisit
after the comments are received. And if we stay where we are, you will be able to submit a minority report if you don’t agree with the Working Group’s Consensus Call (when that happens). </div>
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But we have to cut off the conversation as we just seem to be going around and around on the same points. You have your interpretation of what the status quo is or should be, and others have their viewpoint, which is the polar opposite. At the end of the
day, that is why the current language is completely objective and does not advocate for one side or the other. That is the way it must remain absent agreement by the group otherwise.</div>
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<b class="">From:</b><span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Kathy Kleiman <<a href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com" class="" style="color:blue; text-decoration:underline">kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>><span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, July 10, 2020 4:15 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com" class="" style="color:blue; text-decoration:underline">jeff@jjnsolutions.com</a>>;<span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" class="" style="color:blue; text-decoration:underline">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Latest Version of Compromise Closed Generic Text</div>
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<span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Hi Jeff,</span></div>
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<span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">I'm sorry, but the language below is not accurate, and it must be. There is no way this group can agree to allow Closed Generics outside the public interest framework required by the GAC in
its Advice. Further, absent our agreement (and the GNSO’s approval), we have not meet the requirements of the Board's resolution on Closed Generics, and the bar does not simply "time out."</span></div>
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<span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">I offer the language below as a substitution -- to accurately reflect the two “Closed Generic” policy requirements before this WG and the GNSO -- the 2015 Board Resolution AND the GAC Advice. </span></div>
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<u class=""><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">No Agreement</span></u><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">: The Working Group was unable to come to agreement on a policy that meets the GAC Advice
requirements for “exclusive registry access for generic strings serving a public interest goal.” In keeping with the requirements of the 2015 Board resolution, as clarified in the Rationale, the GNSO must “inform the Board on a regular basis with regards
to the progress on the issue.” It has not done so. </span></div>
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<i class=""><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">“The NGPC [ICANN Board New gTLD Program Committee] is also requesting that the GNSO specifically include the issue of exclusive registry access for generic strings serving a public
interest goal as part of the policy work it is planning to initiate on subsequent rounds of the New gTLD Program, and inform the Board on a regular basis with regards to the progress on the issue. The President and CEO should provide the GNSO with information
needed to support this request.”<span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></i><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-new-gtld-2015-06-21-en" class="" style="color:blue; text-decoration:underline">https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-new-gtld-2015-06-21-en</a></span></div>
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<span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Accordingly, in the absence of agreement by the Working Group on any new policy consistent with the GAC advice on public interest goals, the status quo is that Closed Generics would not be allowed
in subsequent rounds in line the Board’s resolution. The GNSO has not formulated or approved a policy in accordance with the Board’s wishes, as stated in the Rationale, and has not reported any progress to the Board, as requested in the Rationale. Therefore,
the Board’s resolution holds until such a policy is formulated and formally approved by the GNSO. <br class="">
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<span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">"Jeff Neuman" <<a href="mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com" class="" style="color:blue; text-decoration:underline">jeff@jjnsolutions.com</a>></span><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue""></span></div>
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<span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">"McGrady Paul D." <<a href="mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com" class="" style="color:blue; text-decoration:underline">PMcGrady@taftlaw.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org" class="" style="color:blue; text-decoration:underline">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a>"
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<u class=""><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; color:rgb(68,114,196)">No Agreement:</span></u><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; color:rgb(68,114,196)"><span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>The
Working Group notes that in the 2012 round of the New gTLD Program, a decision was made by the ICANN Board<a href="" class="" style="color:blue; text-decoration:underline"><sup class="">[1]</sup></a><span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>to either (a)
“submit a change request to no longer be an exclusive generic TLD”, (b) “withdraw their application” or (c) “maintain their plan to operate an exclusive generic TLD,” which would operate to defer their application to the next round of the New gTLD Program,
subject to rules developed for the next round, to allow time for the GNSO to develop policy advice concerning exclusive generic TLDs.” All applicants in 2012 chose either options (a) or (b). The result was that no exclusive generic gTLDs (also called “Closed
Generic” gTLDs) were delegated in the first round.</span><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue""></span></div>
<p class=""><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif; color:rgb(68,114,196); background-color:white">It was the expectation of the ICANN Board that the GNSO would “develop policy advice concerning exclusive generic TLDs”<a href="" class="" style="color:blue"><span class="x_MsoFootnoteReference"><span class="">[2]</span></span></a>. </span><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; color:rgb(68,114,196)">Although
the Working Group has had numerous discussions about this topic, and received extensive comments from the community, including members of the Governmental Advisory Committee, the Working Group was not able to agree on “policy advice concerning exclusive generic
TLDs.”</span></p>
<p class=""><span class="" style="color:rgb(68,114,196); font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; font-size:9pt">Questions within the Working Group arose on the impact of a failure to develop any policy advice concerning exclusive generic TLDs. Following the approach
the Working Group has taken on other issues where there is no agreement on changes to the implementation of the new gTLD program, the Working Group would normally recommend applying the Status Quo (e.g., no changes recommended). However, in this unique case,
the Working Group was not able to agree on what the Status Quo actually was given the Board’s expectation that the Working Group would develop policy on this matter. In the absence of agreement on any policy, the Working Group debated, and was unable to come
to agreement on, whether the status quo meant that either (i) Closed Generics would be allowed (as there were no provisions in the final Applicant Guidebook that prohibited them), (ii) Closed Generics would not be allowed (noting that none were delegated in
the 2012 round), or (iii) Closed Generics would be allowed if they serve a public interest goal (in accordance with the GAC Advice that was accepted by the Board).</span></p>
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<p class=""><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><b class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; font-size:11pt"><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">From:</span></b><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> McGrady,
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<p class=""><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><span class="" style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; font-size:12pt">Thanks Jeff.</span></p>
<p class=""><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><span class="" style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; font-size:12pt">I actually think that is a step backwards as there was no ban (or “not allowed”). There were 3
options, none of which were a ban: 1. Change 2. Defer to the next Round or 3. Withdraw</span></p>
<p class=""><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><span class="" style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; font-size:12pt">Let’s keep trying. How about simply deleting the ( ) on all of the options. They are, ultimately,
commentary on the opinions of WG members, so they don’t really add much. If we can’t do that, then we could say (ii) Closed Generics would not be allowed (noting than none were delegated in the 2012 round). That would be factual.</span></p>
<p class=""><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><span class="" style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; font-size:12pt">Best,</span></p>
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<p class=""><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><span class="" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; font-size:9pt">Thanks Paul. Each option is followed by a parenthetical explaining why that option could be viewed as
the status quo. So while I take your point, we could amend to read:</span></p>
<p class=""><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><span class="" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; font-size:9pt">(ii) Closed Generics would not be allowed (as they were not allowed to proceed in the 2012 round)</span></p>
<p class=""><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><span class="" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; font-size:9pt">Would that work?</span></p>
<p class=""><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><b class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; font-size:11pt"><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">From:</span></b><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> McGrady,
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<p class=""><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><span class="" style="font-size:12pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Thanks Jeff. Most of your proposed text is accurate and, therefore, good. However, “…</span><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; color:rgb(68,114,196)">(ii)
Closed Generics would not be allowed (in line with part (a) of the Board’s resolution),…” is not accurate since the Board’s resolution specifically addressed the 2012 Round and not future Rounds, so there is no “in line with” The inaccuracy jumps out since
A would require an applicant to file a closed generic then later amend it. That would be nonsensical. </span></p>
<p class=""><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><span class="" style="color:rgb(68,114,196); font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; font-size:9pt">A more accurate way to state what I think you are trying to say would simply be
“…(ii) Closed Generics would not be allowed…”. </span> </p>
<p class=""><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><span class="" style="color:rgb(68,114,196); font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; font-size:9pt">Otherwise, I think this works.</span></p>
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<p class=""><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><span class="" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; font-size:9pt">All,</span></p>
<p class=""><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><span class="" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; font-size:9pt">There has been some good conversation on Closed Generics and specifically making sure that we stay completely
factual. In light of the e-mails from Paul, Kathy, Anne and others, I wanted to present some text to replace part (a) of the Closed Generics section. That text is below. A couple of notes first.</span></p>
<p class=""><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><span class="" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; font-size:9pt">The materials produced by the Working Group are intended to be as objective as possible and not advocacy
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<span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">The Chairs have not cut off any discussions on this topic at all. If you really believe this to be the case, you are free to report this to the GNSO Council Liaison to escalate. But to make
it clear, leadership has assessed that this Working Group is not able to come to agreement on either the substance of this issue, or even on what the default/status quo would be. And the discussions so far on the mailing list have proven us correct. So I
would ask that everyone please refrain from accusations that we have cut off discussions inappropriately, or to escalate the issue.</span></li><li class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">The cites for the quotes here are in footnotes (which I did not attach to the body of this e-mail, but can if you would like).</span></li><li class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">If the text below is acceptable, then we will make the corresponding changes in the Rationale.</span></li><li class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Finally, I know Kathy you were only on the phone during the last call where Package 6 (which included Closed Generics) was on the agenda and discussed. If you review the chat transcript, you
will see that there was no support for including the terms “ban” or “effective ban” as you raised. Further George Sadowski, who was on the call, in that chat stated that his opinion of what happened was his opinion and not necessarily the opinion of the 2013/2014
Board which is reflected in the resolution itself. I have the utmost respect for George as he knows from our many conversations, and his views are incredibly important to us, but for the text of the Draft Final Report, we have to include the language of the
actual resolution and supporting documentation.</span></li></ol>
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<p class=""><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><u class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; font-size:11pt"><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; color:rgb(68,114,196)">No Agreement:</span></u><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; color:rgb(68,114,196)"> The
Working Group notes that in the 2012 round of the New gTLD Program, a decision was made by the ICANN Board<a href="" class="" style="color:blue"><sup class="">[1]</sup></a> to either (a) “submit a change request to no longer be an exclusive generic TLD”, (b)
“withdraw their application” or (c) “maintain their plan to operate an exclusive generic TLD,” which would operate to defer their application to the next round of the New gTLD Program, subject to rules developed for the next round, to allow time for the GNSO
to develop policy advice concerning exclusive generic TLDs.” All applicants in 2012 chose either options (a) or (b). The result was that no exclusive generic gTLDs (also called “Closed Generic” gTLDs) were delegated in the first round.</span></p>
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would “develop policy advice concerning exclusive generic TLDs”<a href="" class="" style="color:blue"><span class="x_MsoFootnoteReference"><span class="">[2]</span></span></a>. </span><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; color:rgb(68,114,196)">Although
the Working Group has had numerous discussions about this topic, and received extensive comments from the community, including members of the Governmental Advisory Committee, the Working Group was not able to agree on “policy advice concerning exclusive generic
TLDs.”</span></p>
<p class=""><span class="" style="font-size:9pt; font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span><span class="" style="color:rgb(68,114,196); font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; font-size:9pt">Questions within the Working Group arose on the impact of a failure to develop any
policy advice concerning exclusive generic TLDs. Following the approach the Working Group has taken on other issues where there is no agreement on changes to the implementation of the new gTLD program, the Working Group would normally recommend applying the
Status Quo (e.g., no changes recommended). However, in this unique case, the Working Group was not able to agree on what the Status Quo actually was given the Board’s expectation that the Working Group would develop policy on this matter. In the absence of
agreement on any policy, the Working Group debated, and was unable to come to agreement on, whether the status quo meant that either (i) Closed Generics would be allowed (as there were no provisions in the final Applicant Guidebook that prohibited them), (ii)
Closed Generics would not be allowed (in line with part (a) of the Board’s resolution), or (iii) Closed Generics would be allowed if they serve a public interest goal (in accordance with the GAC Advice that was accepted by the Board).</span></p>
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<span class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">George Sadowsky Residence tel: +1.301.968</span><span class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">.4325</span></div>
<div class=""><span class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">8300 Burdette Road, Apt B-472 Mobile: +1.202.415.1933</span><br class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">
<span class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">Bethesda MD 20817-2831 USA Skype: sadowsky </span><br class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">
<span class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2"><a href="mailto:george.sadowsky@gmail.com" class="">george.sadowsky@gmail.com</a> <a href="http://www.georgesadowsky.org/" class="">http://www.georgesadowsky.org/</a> </span><br class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">
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