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Sending again, this time copying the list. Looking forward to Staff instructions on this. I have never in all my years of WG work seen all suggestions rejected by Staff before so I am really befuddled about how this process now works. Thanks.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Thanks Steve. Unless I hear otherwise, I will take your email as overriding the Co-chair’s instructions to make changes into the Google document. I’m not exactly sure why we are taking
a different approach on this issue than for every other issue this WG has encountered so far where the document was Jackson Pollock’s White, Red and Black. But, perhaps that will become clear to me as time goes on.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">As for your suggestion that “WG members try and reach alignment on the principle components of a proposal rather than preparing competing redlines” – how should we do that? Trying to
do that exclusively over email will be quite a feat to track when there is no unified Google document anymore. I’m concerned that I will miss something. Will Staff gather the substantive portions of those comments and circulate them prior to our next call?
If so, what is the cut-off deadline for making those comments? How will the various changes that I proposed and we walked through as a group be captured and brought forward for refinement?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Sorry to ask so many questions, but when the rules change this significantly this late in the game over one issue only, I am just trying to figure out how to pivot so that I can do my
best to follow the new rules.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Thanks Steve. Unless I hear otherwise, I will take your email as overriding the Co-chair’s instructions to make changes into the Google document. I’m not exactly sure why we
are taking a different approach on this issue than for every other issue this WG has encountered so far where the document was Jackson Pollock’s White, Red and Black. But, perhaps that will become clear to me as time goes on.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">As for your suggestion that “WG members try and reach alignment on the principle components of a proposal rather than preparing competing redlines” – how should we do that?
Trying to do that exclusively over email will be quite a feat to track when there is no unified Google document anymore. I’m concerned that I will miss something. Will Staff gather the substantive portions of those comments and circulate them prior to our
next call? If so, what is the cut-off deadline for making those comments? How will the various changes that I proposed and we walked through as a group be captured and brought forward for refinement?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Sorry to ask so many questions, but when the rules change this significantly this late in the game over one issue only, I am just trying to figure out how to pivot so that I
can do my best to follow the new rules.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 23, 2020 1:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> steve.chan@icann.org; jim@GALWAYSG.COM; julie.bisland@icann.org; gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> gnso-secs@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Post Call | New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group | Thursday, 23 July 2020 at 03:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks Steve, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I agree, staff or chairs should “hold the pen” and incorporate agreed upon language and changes. Otherwise our document will turn into Jackson Pollock’s White, Red and Black.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">Gnso-newgtld-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Steve Chan <<a href="mailto:steve.chan@icann.org">steve.chan@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 1:16 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Jim Prendergast <<a href="mailto:jim@GALWAYSG.COM">jim@GALWAYSG.COM</a>>, Julie Bisland <<a href="mailto:julie.bisland@icann.org">julie.bisland@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Post Call | New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group | Thursday, 23 July 2020 at 03:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi Jim, all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Staff has created a separate version that retains Paul’s redlines (here:
<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/10-4Ihe76XexR_4WcodSnxBlEiJAS3tMw6_i0wY9ME8E/edit?usp=sharing">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10-4Ihe76XexR_4WcodSnxBlEiJAS3tMw6_i0wY9ME8E/edit?usp=sharing</a>) and in turn, rejected the suggestions that Paul made in the main document (here:
<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X8F8zHkgMzQg2WqGHpuoEP78rhpDkFOjD2qKrZZzjHw/edit?usp=sharing">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X8F8zHkgMzQg2WqGHpuoEP78rhpDkFOjD2qKrZZzjHw/edit?usp=sharing</a>) for ease of review.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From the staff perspective, we think it may be more productive if WG members try and reach alignment on the principle components of a proposal rather than preparing competing redlines. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Steve</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 9:34 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Julie Bisland <<a href="mailto:julie.bisland@icann.org">julie.bisland@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Post Call | New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group | Thursday, 23 July 2020 at 03:00 UTC</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I believe Anne also asked for this on the call but could we get a copy of Proposal 5 before Paul made edits to the document. Or a clean copy with Paul’s edits below it? Would be easier for some of us to
compare the changes and suggest our own without making changes to the master version.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">If I make any suggestions or changes, I’ll create my own version and circulate via email for all to see.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> Gnso-newgtld-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julie Bisland<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 23, 2020 12:55 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org">gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org">gnso-secs@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Post Call | New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group | Thursday, 23 July 2020 at 03:00 UTC</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Dear all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">All recordings for the<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>New<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>gTLD<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Subsequent<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Procedures
Working Group<span class="apple-converted-space"> call </span>held<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>on<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thursday, 23<span style="color:black"> July 2020 at
</span>03<span style="color:black">:00 UTC<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">can be found<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>on the<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="https://secure-web.cisco.com/1FuMyD8UifwhaMbQu28ThQ9OhpvuasiaCNQsZK5Injpt2nJpeQQfwZxLG8rmKmwJq-to69_v5D8b9X9xoBeVUHChKS9V9LpvKYL3iutUgjHKFDfKA7JFNL5oTRFsJc_cW3bofMmwrLseNfUUcghiUfU3pdAPXdpRJ38efYD9WJcfNIWA5d_5S7e54mpJPpPzEdfoULLyqGl0RS6wseCa2wzvZ10RG9wRmCufvMdr3jr_m3Rr8ABS8i-tuc7uZbQnCIxeUwj-X5QsZgufz0FjjTg/https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.icann.org%2Fx%2FnABcC">agenda
wiki page </a><span style="color:black">(attendance included)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>and the<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_group-2Dactivities_calendar&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PDd_FX3f4MVgkEIi9GHvVoUhbecsvLhgsyXrxgtbL10DTBs0i1jYiBM_uTSDzgqG&m=lhHF0M6JaIYeLBnC3Q9bqu2sZWPv1nLAgZnVMGCKrHU&s=Tzxf9LTtBSdrMY8pcfoDex94Y46jW4hgjQNgWe51VqU&e=" title="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_group-2Dactivities_calendar&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PDd_FX3f4MVgkEIi9GHvVoUhbecsvLhgsyXrxgtbL10DTBs0i1jYiBM_uTSDzgqG&m=lhHF0M6JaIYeLBnC3Q9bqu2sZWPv1nLAg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#954F72">GNSO
Master calendar<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">These include:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Attendance (please let me know if your name has been left off the attendance list)</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Audio<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>recording</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Zoom chat archive</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Zoom recording (including audio, visual, rough transcript)</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Transcript</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<span style="color:black">As a reminder only members can join the call, observers can listen to the recordings and read the transcript afterwards. Please email </span><a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org"><span style="color:#548235">gnso-secs@icann.org</span></a><span style="color:#548235"> </span><span style="color:black">if
you would like to change your status from observer to member. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:black">For additional information, you may consult the<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://secure-web.cisco.com/1FgEdOUxEmTeEz4vh3STcbpbeyP5uy_FGYI5E5tt_QDq76gRFnLwMIPcmRudUcJtMVtzk-A33SvHD_lcG9UTakP7LOnkGLlFhQiWdh89bCY7ZMjXuGmZliTDACc_SyMRuKF9vvGF5nVHB7L53qqFFfwQVQW0_WdVoVBqhVfs82KpFcyhS1uqwunzJ9Hzl9HTE6-hzC8V61jahOocbim90Aocm-_xKt_ftUVde8sW4W803GdEJq0d47VTkzZIPRxMjR3vcIFv5R7HdL7FW1l-9Pg/http%3A%2F%2Fmm.icann.org%2Fpipermail%2Fgnso-newgtld-wg%2F"><span style="color:#954F72">mailing
list archives </span></a><span style="color:black">and the<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="https://secure-web.cisco.com/1zBgzBUZOEJFGT0akFQFv-P0bTuhoVpLUfmjoxrtksXSyGoa4xFIsjbeU_3J4vTi1Xblnwm7sfXyvakEzUlAue7Au1Qg2TygSoiZLHIBI11TJGJddLk5GA-xq5xhYzggsPoF6u2OJu5x19DryBPg3khqKttszVHwe4oJxu8DnvVyJSxLt4I3ABjGt7Xw3Yjmr7gWFa_z4EquUDDJZ04-7OxhKMbqWOzqhdvd5Pw_FSJ0ZSr0B-bKfNMhQeUsmisyScTruTgjjUVDxK59_HU83ZQ/https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.icann.org%2Fx%2FRgV1Aw" title="https://community.icann.org/x/RgV1Aw"><span style="color:#954F72">main
wiki page</span></a><span style="color:black">.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:black">Thank you.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:black">Kind regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Julie </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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