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Apologies, I was writing a mail to Mary at the same time. <br>
<br>
Cutting down the council session to two hours only, it seems we
would not be able to get very much done. It certainly leaves no room
for discussions and deliberations. I am having a hard time imagining
what to put into those two hours that would make attending these
sessions worthwhile for community members. <br>
<br>
Volker<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 16.03.2015 um 19:14 schrieb Marika
Konings:<br>
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<div>Hi Volker,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The idea wasn’t that these meetings would take place in
parallel, but rather parts of the day would be allocated to the
sessions listed, so for example, WG F2F meetings would be
scheduled in the morning (9-12) and afternoon (13.00 – 16.00)
with the GNSO Council meeting being the closing session of the
day / meeting (16.00 – 18.00). The DT may want to consider in
developing a draft schedule along the same way by building a
block schedule that would list proposed meetings that could take
place during those slots?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best regards,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Marika</div>
<div><br>
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<div>P.S. And the name is Marika, by the way, my colleague is Mary
:-P</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Volker Greimann
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Monday 16 March
2015 19:05<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Marika Konings <<a
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re:
[gnso-newmtgstrat-dt] Kickoff?<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Hi Mary,<br>
<br>
thank you again for the quick preparation. One of my main
concerns is the doubling of must-attend sessions and I do
not see this new meeting structure helping, but rather
compounding the problem.<br>
<br>
Looking at Meeting B, day 4 the WG f2f sessions seem to be
in conflict with the council sessions, which fails to take
into account that most councillors are also active
participants in that work. It may be advisable to cut the
f2f sessions entirely from this meeting which would also fit
with the intention of making these meeting "smaller".<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Volker<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 16.03.2015 um 17:17 schrieb
Marika Konings:<br>
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cite="mid:D12CBD1D.4159D%25marika.konings@icann.org"
type="cite">
<div>Hi Volker,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thank you for kicking this off - as the deadline for
volunteers was last Friday I was planning to send out a
note of welcome this week but you beat me to the punch
;-)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>For your information, the following SG/C
representatives are subscribed to the mailing list:</div>
<ul>
<li>Bret Fausett (RySG) </li>
<li>Tony Holmes (ISPCP) </li>
<li>Rudi Vansnick (NPOC) </li>
<li>Volker Greimann (RySG) </li>
<li>James Bladel (RySG) </li>
<li>Bill Drake (NCUC) </li>
</ul>
<div>Volunteers from the BC and IPC may still be
forthcoming. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>To facilitate the conversation, I have prepared the
attached document which outlines the proposed outline
for the three yearly meetings by the ICANN Meetings
Strategy Working Group to which I have added in yellow
the current GNSO meetings and how these may fit in
meetings A and C. As Volker noted, meeting B is a
completely different format which will likely require
the most consideration. To encourage ideas and
suggestions on how this meeting could look from a GNSO
perspectives, I’ve added a draft outline. Of course,
this is just to start of the conversation and thinking,
taking into the 4-day meeting format. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The objective for this group is to present the GNSO
Council with a proposed format at the latest by the
ICANN meeting in Buenos Aires so that there is
sufficient time to socialise the proposed GNSO approach
for the new ICANN meeting strategy with other SO/ACs as
obviously there will need to be co-ordination between
the different groups to minimise conflicts and potential
overlap. On that note, do you think it will be helpful
to schedule a conference call to discuss next steps and
proposed approach for completing this task, or do you
prefer to continue conversations by email for now? </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best regards,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Marika</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>On 16/03/15 16:57, "Volker Greimann" <<a
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<div>Dear Strategy team,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>as we have not had any feedback on this channel for
the past two weeks, </div>
<div>I feel it is appropriate to kick off the discussion
to ensure we are </div>
<div>ready with a proposal in time for the first
meetings under the new </div>
<div>schedule.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The one meeting we should probably focus on is the
four-day meeting as </div>
<div>it would require the largest re-adjustment, whereas
the "normal" and </div>
<div>"long" meetings will probably allow the council to
operate with business </div>
<div>as usual.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Frankly, I currently see no way of how to fit in
the current schedules </div>
<div>of the council into the small meeting unless
councillors will be in </div>
<div>session for the entirety of the meeting, and
therely lose the ability to </div>
<div>communicate effectively outside the council. We
will therefore be faced </div>
<div>with limited choices:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>1) Fit the current schedule into the new meeting;</div>
<div>2) Cut down the council meeting to its bare
essentials;</div>
<div>3) Add time to the meeting, very much like current
practice;</div>
<div>4) Eliminate the council face-to-face meeting at
the short meeting.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Personally, I lean toward support for option 3, as
the other options </div>
<div>would result in a loss of effectiveness of the
council.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Anyway, with this, I hope a fruitful discussion
kicks off.</div>
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