[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] For your review - revised template Category B -question 2

Mon Apr 14 16:00:34 UTC 2014

Hi Marika,
In light of Volker and Stephanie's point, perhaps a similar footnote 
would be valuable in Cat B- ques 2 reflecting that:
[footnote] Others across several SG groups voiced support (over several 
discussions) for a standard in which verification and validation of p/p 
registration would not exceed that required of current domain name 
registrations under the 2013 RAA -- for many reasons, including those 
listed above.

Best,
Kathy

> I too unfortunately missed that call, and as I indicated previously, I 
> don't find this fair.  It presumes guilt on the part of proxy customers.
> Stephanie P
> On 2014-04-14, at 9:52 AM, Volker Greimann wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> as I missed that call, was that number of members in any way 
>> qualified or multi-stakeholder or was it just a voice from a certain 
>> part of the community. If so, any comment to that effect (if it were 
>> to be included) should also include the origin of that opinion.
>>
>> Volker
>>
>> Am 14.04.2014 15:45, schrieb Metalitz, Steven:
>>>
>>> Hi Marika,
>>>
>>> I believe that at the beginning of the April 8 call there was 
>>> discussion about including in the preliminary conclusion on Question 
>>> B-2 the view of a number of members of the WG that the minimum 
>>> verification or validation standards for accredited services would 
>>> need to exceed those applicable to non-proxy registrations, but that 
>>> this view could be affected by the outcome of discussions regarding 
>>> relay and reveal requirements (e.g., re the speed of reveal).  It 
>>> does not appear that the template for question B-2 has been 
>>> supplemented to reflect this discussion. Could staff please do so?  
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Steve Metalitz
>>>
>>> *From:*gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org 
>>> [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Marika 
>>> Konings
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 10, 2014 4:45 PM
>>> *To:* gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org
>>> *Subject:* [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] For your review - revised template 
>>> Category B - question 3
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> Following our call on Tuesday, please find attached the updated 
>>> template for Cat B -- Q 3 which aims to capture the main points of 
>>> discussion as well as a proposed preliminary conclusion based on the 
>>> deliberations to date ('The WG recommends that any rights, 
>>> responsibilities and obligations for registrants as well as 
>>> privacy/proxy providers would need to be clearly communicated in the 
>>> registration agreement, including any specific requirements applying 
>>> to transfers and renewals. However, further details as to what 
>>> minimum requirements for such rights, responsibilities and 
>>> obligations may be will need to be further discussed by the WG 
>>> following its review of other charter questions'). If I've missed 
>>> anything or you have any proposed edits, feel free to share your 
>>> suggestions with the mailing list.
>>>
>>> As noted during the call, further input and discussion will be 
>>> required in relation to the second part of the charter question: 
>>> clarify how transfers, renewals, and PEDNR policies should apply? 
>>> Below you will find our initial attempt to identify some of the 
>>> questions that may need to be addressed in this regard. We hope that 
>>> WG members, and especially registrars, will be able to add to this 
>>> list and/or provide some initial thoughts and suggestions. We'll 
>>> kick off the meeting next week with a short introduction to the 
>>> Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP), but in the meantime you 
>>> may already want to review this presentation that was provided by 
>>> James Bladel for one of the IRTP WGs (Powerpoint 
>>> <http://gnso.icann.org/en/meetings/presentation-irtp-c-training-29nov11-en.pdf>, 
>>> Transcript 
>>> <http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/transcript-irtp-c-training-29nov11-en.pdf> and 
>>> MP3-Recording 
>>> <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-c-training-20111129-en.mp3>).
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Marika
>>>
>>> *From: *Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org 
>>> <mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>>
>>> *Date: *Monday 17 March 2014 12:40
>>> *To: *"gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org 
>>> <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org 
>>> <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
>>> *Subject: *[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] For your review - template Category B 
>>> - question 3
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> In preparation for our meeting tomorrow, please find attached the 
>>> proposed template for Category B -- question 3 (/What rights and 
>>> responsibilities should domain name registrants that use 
>>> privacy/proxy services have? What obligations should 
>>> ICANN-accredited privacy/proxy service providers have in managing 
>>> these rights and responsibilities? Clarify how transfers, renewals, 
>>> and PEDNR policies should apply.) /If there is any additional 
>>> information that should be added to the background section, please 
>>> let me know.
>>>
>>> In relation to transfers, renewals and PEDNR policies, we've started 
>>> to develop a list of questions that the WG may need to consider 
>>> in relation to these policies. If there are any additional questions 
>>> that should be included, please feel free to suggest. We are hoping 
>>> that some of the registrar members will be able to shed a light on 
>>> how these issues are currently handled and whether or not these need 
>>> to be factored into the WG recommendations.
>>>
>>>   * Per the ERRP, 'registrars must notify the registered name holder
>>>     of the expiration at least two times'. Should there be a
>>>     requirement for the P/P provider to pass these notices on to the
>>>     P/P customer?
>>>   * Per the ERRP, 'if a registration is not renewed by the RAE or
>>>     deleted by the registrar, within five days after the expiration
>>>     of the registration, the registrar must transmit at least one
>>>     additional expiration notice to the RAE that includes
>>>     instructions for renewing the registration'. Should there be a
>>>     requirement for the P/P provider to pass these notices on to the
>>>     P/P customer?
>>>   * Per the ERRP, 'beginning at the time of expiration and through
>>>     the DNS resolution interruption period described in paragraphs
>>>     2.2.2 and 2.2.3, the RAE must be permitted by the registrar to
>>>     renew the expired registration'. What if the underlying customer
>>>     wants to renew the registration? Idem for restoration during the
>>>     Redemption Grace Period.
>>>   * In relation to the IRTP, should there be any restrictions
>>>     concerning transfers of P/P registrations? (e.g. some of the
>>>     terms and conditions require the P/P services to be removed
>>>     during the transfer process). Depending on the response to this
>>>     question, all communications in the IRTP currently go via the
>>>     transfer contact (Registered Name Holder / Admin Contact).
>>>     Should there be any requirements for this information to also be
>>>     communicated to the P/P customer? What happens if there is a
>>>     disagreement relating to the transfer between the P/P provider
>>>     and the P/P customer?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Marika
>>>
>>>
>>>
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